No Call No Show WWYD?

[SunshineMama]

Dcm text me 15 minutes before pick up. If her daughter were to get the seat, I would have had him for an hour or more after pick up, and would have still missed my daughters event.

Also, is there a liability issue if I know a child is leaving care and does not have a car seat? Aside from the child's safety, I am concerned that I could be held liable for knowingly releasing the child without a car seat.

[lovemykidstoo]

Dcm text me 15 minutes before pick up. If her daughter were to get the seat, I would have had him for an hour or more after pick up, and would have still missed my daughters event.

Also, is there a liability issue if I know a child is leaving care and does not have a car seat? Aside from the child's safety, I am concerned that I could be held liable for knowingly releasing the child without a car seat.

I'm really sorry that the person picking up didn't have a seat, but really that is not your problem. mom should have come and got the child. I don't think that there is a liability issue on your part. What if you didn't have a seat? How coudl you be liable?

[Zoe]

How about you tell dcm that if the car seat is really that big of a deal then dck cannot come tomorrow. Please don't miss your daughter's event because they can't get their stuff together!

[lovemykidstoo]

So dcm text me today and asked if they could come tomorrow. I'm stuck at home all day anyway and need the money so I said yes, but I will be filling their spots after my maternity leave in January. I'm a bit shocked at the no call nI show, then a request for care the very next day. I'm still debating on invoicing for today or just cutting my losses and letting it go. Im feeling super pregnant and tired and over all the daycare drama.

New issue: other dcm text me today, saying her college daughter would pick up Dcb, but needs to borrow a car seat. I need my seats for my own kids tonight bc we have to go somewhere, and last time I let them borrow one they kept it for 3 days. I offered to drive Dcb home, but the sister is not at her house dcm said. So I either have to keep him at my house and not let him leave since h doesn't have a seat, or miss my children's class this evening and let them have a seat. Dcm is stuck at work. I wouldn't feel right letting him leave without a car seat. Ugh

I just re-read this and highlighted the part that blows me away. Are you serious that your only options are keeping the child over your close time or losing your seat thereby not allowing you to do your family time? That is ridiculous. I would be telling mommy that her child WILL be picked up on time that you dont' care how she works it out. Tell her daughter to run to walmart real quick and grab a new seat. That is just terrible. Now that I read further into it, all I can say is WOW! No way would I be putting up with that.

[SunshineMama]

I see what everyone is saying. However, does anyone else feel there is a legal or moral obligation, if you know that a young child is leaving your home without a car seat, to make sure that child is safe? I can't imagine the guilt I would feel if I knew I was sending a child off without a car seat, and something happened. I know we can't always rearrange our lives for the dcks, but I do care about their well being.

[lovemykidstoo]

I see your point, but there has to be someone, if not herself, that she could have had come there by your closing time. She will do this to you over and over again because it's working.

[AnneCordelia]

I don't. Its my responsibility to hand over the child at close, not to inspect every car for properly installed carseats. I would suggest that the person picking up sit on my porch until dcm could pick them up with a seat, and then I would leave for my daughter's event.

How did it go down?

[Blackcat31]

I see what everyone is saying. However, does anyone else feel there is a legal or moral obligation, if you know that a young child is leaving your home without a car seat, to make sure that child is safe? I can't imagine the guilt I would feel if I knew I was sending a child off without a car seat, and something happened. I know we can't always rearrange our lives for the dcks, but I do care about their well being.

Yes, at times there is a legal and/or a moral obligation but at what point does YOUR own needs and that of YOUR own family become a higher priority than a clients?

That is the point I was making....why do you (or your kids) get the short end of the stick just because a DCF has a problem? At what point is their problem NOT your problem kwim?

You can feel badly, you can empathize with them or try to help find a solution WITH them, but there is no way in hell I would put the needs of my family AFTER the needs of a DCF.


I really do hope you were able to make it to your DD's event.
I don't care how legal or moral that is or isn't. MY family comes first. period.

[lovemykidstoo]

Not saying that there isn't one, but I've never heard of a law saying that we can't let the child go with a parent/family member/friend for this type of reason.

[Willow]

I see what everyone is saying. However, does anyone else feel there is a legal or moral obligation, if you know that a young child is leaving your home without a car seat, to make sure that child is safe? I can't imagine the guilt I would feel if I knew I was sending a child off without a car seat, and something happened. I know we can't always rearrange our lives for the dcks, but I do care about their well being.

The legal and moral obligation belongs to the PARENTS OF THE CHILD. Making sure the child is safe when the child departs your home is the job of the PARENTS OF THE CHILD.

Not you.

Not to mention what about the parents moral and legal obligation to the position they're putting YOU in??

How can you justify taking on the responsibilities of parenting another persons child when they aren't and shouldn't be yours....and when extending yourself like that comes at the expense of your very own children???


Is it the Walmart cart pushers job to make sure every child he sees in the parking lot is buckled up properly in a perfectly installed car seat?



To say I would never:

a) allow a parents irresponsibility to encroach on my life
b) allow a parents irresponsibility to encroach on my own children's lives
and
b) allow a parents irresponsibility to force me into ethically or physically shouldering one of the major responsibilities belonging to them....

is an understatement.

I'd have harsh words and ultimatums to share at minimum. Then a term letter to pass out if they didn't find a way to remedy the situation immediately.



If you don't require your parents to own their own problems they will make them yours, and that's not right to the child, you or your own family on any level. I am usually on the softer end of softy but that crosses so many lines even in my book.....I wouldn't tolerate it.

[SunshineMama]

I don't. Its my responsibility to hand over the child at close, not to inspect every car for properly installed carseats. I would suggest that the person picking up sit on my porch until dcm could pick them up with a seat, and then I would leave for my daughter's event.

How did it go down?

I ended up borrowing a neighbors car seat for my dd and let dcm use mine. I told her it could not happen again. I just couldn't let him go without a seat, and i was able to find a solution. Unfortunately, I still do not have my seat back, bc dcm was hospitalized this morning for a chronic illness, but at least I was able to get my back up seats out of the other car. Apparently her dd will drop off my seat today.

I am replacing the no call no show family after maternity leave, and I see a fresh start to implement my rules and crack down more on following them up. The only families I have issues with are the original ones from when I started daycare and had a lot to learn, and then I felt like I had done special so much for so long I couldn't change it. So far I have been good with my new families, and I plan to set expectations early.