As of Today, It's Official! WTD?

[daycare]

So as of today, every single one of my DCK excluding DCG age 4 is potty trained. This includes my 21month old DCK and all 2 year olds.

Soooooooooooooo what do I say to the parents of the 4 year old who swear up and down that she is PT at home, but supposedly refuses to only use the toilet here???????

what I want to say and what I should say are two entirely different things???

[SilverSabre25]

"Guys. Really. [21 month old] is potty trained here. So is *everyone* else. Seriously. This is ridiculous. A 4 year old in diapers? Come on! Now, I need to see some serious progress on potty-training within 30 days or I'm going to need a doctor's note with a diagnosis of a physical, mental, or emotional problem preventing her from being trained. Otherwise, care will be terminated. You have to train her. Really."

Then...start interviewing...just in case...

[daycare]

"Guys. Really. [21 month old] is potty trained here. So is *everyone* else. Seriously. This is ridiculous. A 4 year old in diapers? Come on! Now, I need to see some serious progress on potty-training within 30 days or I'm going to need a doctor's note with a diagnosis of a physical, mental, or emotional problem preventing her from being trained. Otherwise, care will be terminated. You have to train her. Really."

Then...start interviewing...just in case...

thanks silver..... I do think that is a good idea to require a doc note 30 days from now if there is no progress.

I know that there is nothing wrong with her, it's just a parenting issue.

[SilverSabre25]

At her age, seriously they should just run out of diapers and refuse to buy anymore except for nighttime. They should just tell her, "Guess what! You use the toilet now."

People these days

[daycare]

At her age, seriously they should just run out of diapers and refuse to buy anymore except for nighttime. They should just tell her, "Guess what! You use the toilet now."

People these days

I tired that here. the child just refuses to use the toilet. SO I am the one who required her to be put back in pull ups.

I used to allow the underwear first with pull up over, but she will just sit and pee and poo in them all day and won't tell me. I have to actually take her to the bathroom and lay her down on the changing mat to see if she is telling me the truth or not

[spud912]

I saw the beginning of your post and immediately thought "yay, the 4 year old is finally trained" . . . then I read the rest . Ugh, seriously, they need to buckle down and take control. Some kids really just need a "hard" push and not a gentle "she will do it when she's ready" push. Been there, done that with my dd. Finally when my dd was 3, I gave her a "hard" push because I knew she was more than ready (she just wasn't in the mood to do it herself). Good luck! It won't be an easy road for the parents, especially now that your dcg is 4 and fully believes she's in control.

[daycare]

I saw the beginning of your post and immediately thought "yay, the 4 year old is finally trained" . . . then I read the rest . Ugh, seriously, they need to buckle down and take control. Some kids really just need a "hard" push and not a gentle "she will do it when she's ready" push. Been there, done that with my dd. Finally when my dd was 3, I gave her a "hard" push because I knew she was more than ready (she just wasn't in the mood to do it herself). Good luck! It won't be an easy road for the parents, especially now that your dcg is 4 and fully believes she's in control.

I pushed her really hard when she started here, but the parents messed that up with too many bribes. I have had her for about a year and I have tried everything under the sun.

I agree that she has figured out that it is a control issue.

[TheMonkeyFam]

I don't accept children over 3 1/2 who aren't potty trained. I have a friend who's 4 year old son is like this. He pees no problem on the toilet for me but needs mommy to change him. I agree a dr. Note is in order. I hope they put in the time to make it work. Will she hold her pee all day if she isn't in a diaper at your house? Time for the parents to be in charge again instead of the lille one. Good luck and congratulations everyone else is potty trained! happyface

[daycare]

I don't accept children over 3 1/2 who aren't potty trained. I have a friend who's 4 year old son is like this. He pees no problem on the toilet for me but needs mommy to change him. I agree a dr. Note is in order. I hope they put in the time to make it work. Will she hold her pee all day if she isn't in a diaper at your house? Time for the parents to be in charge again instead of the lille one. Good luck and congratulations everyone else is potty trained! happyface

no she will not hold it at all.....she has no problem wetting herself and then won't tell me. so she will sit in it until I discover it.

[littlemissmuffet]

Ugh. Yup, time for a doc note... and start advertising/interviewing in the event that conversation backfires

What's this kid going to do in kindy? Teachers don't potty assist. Do the parent realize this?

[TheMonkeyFam]

no she will not hold it at all.....she has no problem wetting herself and then won't tell me. so she will sit in it until I discover it.

Oh my! I've never met a child who has no problem wetting themselves. I've only ever had one potty trained kid have an accident and not tell me. She ran to the bathroom to hide. Unfortunately two of the little ones thought it would be fun to play in the "water" Will she go if you sit her on the toilet every 30-45 mins? I know it's a pain but I would rather go to the bathroom every 30-45 than have to change diapers on a 4 year old!

[daycare]

Oh my! I've never met a child who has no problem wetting themselves. I've only ever had one potty trained kid have an accident and not tell me. She ran to the bathroom to hide. Unfortunately two of the little ones thought it would be fun to play in the "water" Will she go if you sit her on the toilet every 30-45 mins? I know it's a pain but I would rather go to the bathroom every 30-45 than have to change diapers on a 4 year old!

sometimes. This is the only way that I can get her to go, but it is hit and miss.

I agree that it is a pain, but I would rather tell her to go than have to change her. Just stinks that she will still sit there and not tell me. She does it with poop too.

[spud912]

Yeah the parents need to do potty bootcamp on a weekend and then be on the same page as you.

My dd was also one who would wet herself or defecate (on the cotton panties) and not say anything. The only thing that worked was a weekend battle. It sounds bad, but she is such a stubborn girl and every other nicey nice technique only fed into her ability to control the situation. We had her run around naked for the weekend and we would literally have to drag her into the bathroom kicking and screaming and make her sit to "try" every 30-60 minutes. Eventually, she gave up the battle and realized that she actually has MORE freedom when she goes potty by herself instead of us having to change her. It was a gruesome 3 days, but that is all it took! She has been completely potty trained ever since, even nights (see, we knew she was ready!).

[nanglgrl]

Ugh. Yup, time for a doc note... and start advertising/interviewing in the event that conversation backfires

What's this kid going to do in kindy? Teachers don't potty assist. Do the parent realize this?

I was just talking with a kindergarten teacher who is also a friend. She told me that a 5 year old was sent to school on the first day in a pullup! The child did not have any disabilities. Ridiculous!

[LK5kids]

I saw the beginning of your post and immediately thought "yay, the 4 year old is finally trained" . . . then I read the rest . Ugh, seriously, they need to buckle down and take control. Some kids really just need a "hard" push and not a gentle "she will do it when she's ready" push. Been there, done that with my dd. Finally when my dd was 3, I gave her a "hard" push because I knew she was more than ready (she just wasn't in the mood to do it herself). Good luck! It won't be an easy road for the parents, especially now that your dcg is 4 and fully believes she's in control.

I agree! Yes, it's time we get back to parent lead toilet training, not child lead. In most places around the world kids are trained very, very early.