DCPs Opening and Closing My Front Door 10 Times in 30 Degree Weather... WWYD?

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  • SunshineMama
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 1575

    #16
    Originally posted by Blackcat31
    I do not mean this harshly or rude at all, but what is it that you are all afraid of???

    ......if this were happening with children none of us would hesitate for one second to say "SHUT THE DOOR!!!!"


    ....but for some reason, everyone is trying to find creative solutions and "nice" ways to say that to adults...... :confused:

    who are NOT children and should know better

    Honestly, why are you not just saying "SHUT THE DOOR!!!!!!!" ??????

    For every second you hesitate and worry about hurting someone's feelings your dollars are slipping past.......

    ~it's not rocket science.... just shut the flipping door!!
    I have shut the door and I have shut it myself whenever possible. Then dcd literally stands smack in the doorway, I tell him (again) that the heat is on, and he blatently just keeps standing there, taking his sweet time to say his goodbye's etc. It's literally like I would have to guide him out of the way physically, or slam the door on him as he is standing there, which is what I am having the issue with. That, and I am one of those people who are always concerned what others think, something I am trying to get over.

    I am pretty sure I am done with this family anyway. Next week is their last week here for winter break and I dont think I will renew their contract. This is the same family who punishes their kids for potty accidents by putting them in cold showers." They hit and kick and scratch and bite and whine and yell and scream, probably bc thats what is going on at home. The parents have no control over their kids, and I have to spend most of my energy correcting them all day and teaching them, just to do it again the next day. It is tedious and miserable and exhausting. The kids have become increasingly violent to themselves and other kids within the past month, and their behavior is disrupting everyone else. The door disrespect is just the nail in the coffin. I feel bad bc this was one of my first families and I have watched these children grow and invested a lot of time and effort into them, but I think i have had my fill.

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    • Willow
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • May 2012
      • 2683

      #17
      Originally posted by Blackcat31
      I do not mean this harshly or rude at all, but what is it that you are all afraid of???

      ......if this were happening with children none of us would hesitate for one second to say "SHUT THE DOOR!!!!"


      ....but for some reason, everyone is trying to find creative solutions and "nice" ways to say that to adults...... :confused:

      who are NOT children and should know better

      Honestly, why are you not just saying "SHUT THE DOOR!!!!!!!" ??????

      For every second you hesitate and worry about hurting someone's feelings your dollars are slipping past.......

      ~it's not rocket science.... just shut the flipping door!!

      This is where my mind went too .

      Even if you don't have a backbone and want to throw a please in there what are they going to say.....no??

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      • Willow
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • May 2012
        • 2683

        #18
        Originally posted by SunshineMama
        I have shut the door and I have shut it myself whenever possible. Then dcd literally stands smack in the doorway, I tell him (again) that the heat is on, and he blatently just keeps standing there, taking his sweet time to say his goodbye's etc.

        "Excuse me Mr. Blahblah, I'm just going to scooch you forward a bit so I can close the door behind you as it's getting cold in here."


        I don't blame you for ultimately wanting to terminate though. The cold shower bit would have laid that puppy to rest loooooong ago.

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        • SunshineMama
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 1575

          #19
          Originally posted by Willow
          This is where my mind went too .

          Even if you don't have a backbone and want to throw a please in there what are they going to say.....no??
          LOL I know it sounds stupid ::

          Literally, I say shut the door and they don't say "no," they just ignore me basically and stand in the doorway anyway.

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          • SunshineMama
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 1575

            #20
            Originally posted by Willow
            "Excuse me Mr. Blahblah, I'm just going to scooch you forward a bit so I can close the door behind you as it's getting cold in here."


            I don't blame you for ultimately wanting to terminate though. The cold shower bit would have laid that puppy to rest loooooong ago.
            I will be scooching this parent in and out 3 times a morning ::

            No shocker why the kids are out of control

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            • coolconfidentme
              Daycare.com Member
              • Oct 2012
              • 1541

              #21
              Originally posted by Blackcat31
              I do not mean this harshly or rude at all, but what is it that you are all afraid of???

              ......if this were happening with children none of us would hesitate for one second to say "SHUT THE DOOR!!!!"


              ....but for some reason, everyone is trying to find creative solutions and "nice" ways to say that to adults...... :confused:

              who are NOT children and should know better

              Honestly, why are you not just saying "SHUT THE DOOR!!!!!!!" ??????

              For every second you hesitate and worry about hurting someone's feelings your dollars are slipping past.......

              ~it's not rocket science.... just shut the flipping door!!
              I have said it to DCP before, "Please shut the door. I'm sure you can appreciate the cost of a heat bill these days." ...& I smile while doing so. As soon as they comply, I thank them.

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              • Blackcat31
                • Oct 2010
                • 36124

                #22
                Originally posted by Willow
                This is where my mind went too .

                Even if you don't have a backbone and want to throw a please in there what are they going to say.....no??
                Originally posted by coolconfidentme
                I have said it to DCP before, "Please shut the door. I'm sure you can appreciate the cost of a heat bill these days." ...& I smile while doing so. As soon as they comply, I thank them.
                Yeah, I live in northern MN so everyone here understands that for every 30 seconds you leave the door open you are pretty much throwing your money out with the escaping heat.

                It's 34F degrees here today....and we are all talking about how nice it is.

                My furnace have been running since September and probably won't stop until May so...

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                • Willow
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 2683

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Blackcat31
                  Yeah, I live in northern MN so everyone here understands that for every 30 seconds you leave the door open you are pretty much throwing your money out with the escaping heat.

                  It's 34F degrees here today....and we are all talking about how nice it is.

                  My furnace have been running since September and probably won't stop until May so...

                  Yesterday AND today! Although I've got a high of 45 going on right now!!

                  It's BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!


                  Maybe that's why it's not nearly as big of a deal to ask someone if they were born in a barn should they leave the door hanging wide open

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                  • Happy Hearts
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 255

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Willow

                    Maybe that's why it's not nearly as big of a deal to ask someone if they were born in a barn should they leave the door hanging wide open
                    I asked that to my son once and he replied, "Well, Jesus was and he turned out fine."

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                    • Country Kids
                      Nature Lover
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 5051

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Sparrow
                      I asked that to my son once and he replied, "Well, Jesus was and he turned out fine."
                      Thank you so much for the laugh today!::

                      I loved this and my daughter said she will be making of a note of this for when I ask her the same thing.
                      Each day is a fresh start
                      Never look back on regrets
                      Live life to the fullest
                      We only get one shot at this!!

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                      • lovemykidstoo
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 4740

                        #26
                        Originally posted by SunshineMama
                        I will be scooching this parent in and out 3 times a morning ::

                        No shocker why the kids are out of control
                        If you need to scooch him 3 times a morning then so be it. Maybe he'll get the drift after awhile. I would ask him to shut the door once and then I would say, excuse me, push past him and close it while saying that your last bill was ridiculous and you have to keep the door closed. Sorry.

                        I used to have 2 kids that did that bologna about who would knock first every morning. Then if I opened the door before they did knock they would throw a fit. I finally said, get over it, get in here it's cold. I don't know why in the world parents allow such behavior.

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                        • mrsp'slilpeeps
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • May 2011
                          • 607

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Blackcat31
                          I do not mean this harshly or rude at all, but what is it that you are all afraid of???

                          ......if this were happening with children none of us would hesitate for one second to say "SHUT THE DOOR!!!!"


                          ....but for some reason, everyone is trying to find creative solutions and "nice" ways to say that to adults...... :confused:

                          who are NOT children and should know better

                          Honestly, why are you not just saying "SHUT THE DOOR!!!!!!!" ??????

                          For every second you hesitate and worry about hurting someone's feelings your dollars are slipping past.......

                          ~it's not rocket science.... just shut the flipping door!!

                          Or as my mother used to say, We're not heating southern Alberta, close the door! ::

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                          • Springdaze
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 533

                            #28
                            the way my place is set up, I would be worried about littles walking out the door! years ago we were outside and a parent left both the back door and the front door open. i turned around and my 2 yo son is walking into the driveway!

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                            • MarinaVanessa
                              Family Childcare Home
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 7211

                              #29
                              I would lock the door and put a big fat sign on it that said

                              THE HEAT IS ON. THE DOOR IS LOCKED.
                              KNOCK WHEN THE CHILDREN ARE READY TO COME IN

                              Then when this particular DCD came to my door I would open the door just enough to get myself through the door and put my hand out in a "stop" motion if he came close to the door, and usher both kids inside the home while saying over my shoulder "Have a great day at work Bill, sorry gotta hurry. Heat is on" and then quickly shut the door. The kids may cry, the dad may feel dejected but .... oh well. The kids will get over it quickly and hopefully so will the dad. Personally I wouldn't feel too bad for DCD if I was constantly reminding him for months about the door and he continued to disregard my requests.

                              The idea about charging them extra for the heat is also an enticing idea. Surprise him by keeping a secret log for the next week of how much time he stands there letting the heat out and then everage it. Then fgure out how long it takes for the house to go back to the temperature it was at before he arrived and figure out how much the cost of the heat is from the time that he arrives until the house is heated again. Then you can give him the itemized log of time he stands there and the breakdown of the costs .

                              "Unfortunately Bill, you're the only client that is having trouble with this and this has been happening for months since the summer. So let me know whether you'd rather pay the extra fee to be allowed to stand there for 10 minutes each day ... extra time will be charged extra ... or if you would rather just quickly come in and out of the house"

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                              • kitykids3
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 581

                                #30
                                I've got the heat on here for 6 months of the year too and I have parents do the same thing! I bet at their house they wouldn't be leaving it open like that.

                                I usually leave the door locked anyways, then if kids are dawdling I tell them to hurry in, or out, cuz the heat's on. That's my hint to parents.

                                On occassion I have addressed it in my newsletters and if bad enough I put a sign at eye level that says the heat is on, please keep door shut. Luckily I have parents that are for the most part respectful at that point.
                                Same with taking shoes off, once I've addressed it in a newsletter and put a sign up, it seems to help.
                                lovethis daymommy to 7 kiddos - 5 girls and 2 boys

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