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  • Kimberli
    Daycare.com Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 93

    Update on Court Case Craziness. :)

    Thanks to all of you who have reached out here and privately to inquire and offer support in regards to my recent Terminated Parent Nightmare! It has really helped me to not feel so alone in all of this!

    So ... update? The disgruntled mom who filed the case against me has agreed to have the matter heard on Judge ****, as did I - so we film in Los Angeles on the 14th of this month. I was asked to provide a statement of my side of the story prior to going on the show, which I did, and we shall see what happens from this point forward. I could win ... and I could lose - but no matter what she decides or says to either of us - that chapter in particular will be over on that day. Yahooooo! happyface SO ready to move on!

    In regards to the licensing citation I am still trying to appeal, I have continually called the Southern California Child Care Law Advocate and her voicemail is still full and she is unreachable. I just don't understand how someone can leave their position for months at a time without a specified return date and no replacement. I was told by her office that she was scheduled to return toward the end of October. I am feeling frustrated to say the least.

    Thanks for your continued support. lovethis I will keep you guys posted. The producers of the J.J. show said that the episode likely won't air until early next year sometime. If I win, I'll tell ya the date ... if I lose ... well ... Ha, ha, ha! Just kidding! I will tell you the date even if Lady Law decides to annihilate me! I did what I felt was best in the situation - win or lose!
    Last edited by Michael; 11-12-2012, 07:56 PM.
  • sharlan
    Daycare.com Member
    • May 2011
    • 6067

    #2
    My only advice is to make sure you have lots of documentation, make sure everything that can be is notorized. I've seen where she won't accept anything that isn't notorized.

    I am wishing you the best and hoping that you win.

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    • littlemissmuffet
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 2194

      #3
      It's incredibly unlikely that you will lose. Can't wait to watch!

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      • cheerfuldom
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 7413

        #4
        also print out any emails or document any texts, print out your phone bill if you must to prove times and dates of contact, copies of all your daycare enrollment documents, document like crazy.

        i cant wait till you win!!!! I will be outraged and so confused and shocked if you dont win.

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        • Kimberli
          Daycare.com Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 93

          #5
          We are not allowed to bring any statements, notarized or not, because they can't be cross-examined, BUT - I am bringing a witness who is the Dad of one of my daycare kids who is the exact same age as the child who was terminated. He has seen and heard the interaction between myself and the suing parent, seen the child's outrageous behavior and can speak to how I treat the children in our care - so I feel good about that.

          I will have all my other ducks in a row, but we literally get 12 minutes in the courtroom so I am expecting short and sweet!

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          • MarinaVanessa
            Family Childcare Home
            • Jan 2010
            • 7211

            #6
            Good luck!!

            Thanks for the update. I agree and hope that you follow eveyrone's advice and document, document, document. Print EVERYTHING that you can and make a journal of everything in cronological order. Organize everything in groups ... emails, phone calls, texts, letters, contract, policy handbook etc. Really focus on what your standpoint is and get as much "evidence" as you can that can support your case. Get some of those little stickly flags and bookmark the parts in the handbook, contract, emails etc that support your case and highlight the parts. The more organized you are the easier it'll be for you to get your proof to Judge *****.

            I'm sure you'll do fine. Please let us know how it turns out once you're back. If you win (which you probably will) then you can finally have that validation ... if you lose your case (which you probably won't) well at least the show pays the client and it doesn't come out of your pocket. In either case at least it can all be put behind you.
            Last edited by Michael; 11-12-2012, 07:57 PM.

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            • countrymom
              Daycare.com Member
              • Aug 2010
              • 4874

              #7
              oh take pictures of your daycare area too and where the the time out corner is too. You never know. She may say that your house is dirty and such.

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              • cheerfuldom
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 7413

                #8
                Originally posted by countrymom
                oh take pictures of your daycare area too and where the the time out corner is too. You never know. She may say that your house is dirty and such.
                good idea!

                plus documentation about yourself personally....background check, reference letters from other parents (if you do those), training and education, record of your past with licensing (showing no issues before this)

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                • Lucy
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 1654

                  #9
                  I hope they don't tell you that you have to keep the verdict a secret until the episode airs!! That's what they do to people on shows like Survivor. I know Judge ***** show isn't as huge as Survivor, but jeez.... I can't stand not knowing for that long!!!
                  Last edited by Michael; 11-12-2012, 07:58 PM.

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                  • countrymom
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 4874

                    #10
                    Originally posted by cheerfuldom
                    good idea!

                    plus documentation about yourself personally....background check, reference letters from other parents (if you do those), training and education, record of your past with licensing (showing no issues before this)
                    thats good too. anything to make yourself look better.

                    also, check the web and make sure (google it) that there isn't anything negative about you because you never know.

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                    • Lilbutterflie
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 1359

                      #11
                      I think you certainly already have all your ducks in a row; and I will be completely horrified and baffled if you do NOT win!!!

                      It is a very sad day for daycare providers when a provider gets sued for giving a child multiple timeouts in one day when the child was being physically violent to the other children. It is absolutely crazy to me!! The only other alternative would have been to call the parent immediately after 1 timeout to come pick up their misbehaving child.

                      Please keep us updated!!!

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                      • spud912
                        Trix are for kids
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 2398

                        #12
                        I can't wait to watch! Thanks for keeping us so updated!

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                        • Kimberli
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 93

                          #13
                          Originally posted by MarinaVanessa
                          Good luck!!

                          Thanks for the update. I agree and hope that you follow eveyrone's advice and document, document, document. Print EVERYTHING that you can and make a journal of everything in cronological order. Organize everything in groups ... emails, phone calls, texts, letters, contract, policy handbook etc. Really focus on what your standpoint is and get as much "evidence" as you can that can support your case. Get some of those little stickly flags and bookmark the parts in the handbook, contract, emails etc that support your case and highlight the parts. The more organized you are the easier it'll be for you to get your proof to Judge *****.

                          I'm sure you'll do fine. Please let us know how it turns out once you're back. If you win (which you probably will) then you can finally have that validation ... if you lose your case (which you probably won't) well at least the show pays the client and it doesn't come out of your pocket. In either case at least it can all be put behind you.
                          My plan exactly! Great minds think alike and we are all on the same page! I will be organized, prepared and above all ... professional!

                          Hoping for the best!
                          Last edited by Michael; 11-12-2012, 07:57 PM.

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                          • Country Kids
                            Nature Lover
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 5051

                            #14
                            See if you can look up on the internet and watch any past childcare cases she has done and how she reacted.

                            It might give you some insight on how it could go.
                            Each day is a fresh start
                            Never look back on regrets
                            Live life to the fullest
                            We only get one shot at this!!

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                            • momofsix
                              Advanced Daycare.com Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 1846

                              #15
                              I think your chances with Judge ***** will be better then with another judge even. She's pretty "old school" and I'm sure would find the thought of no consequences at all for kids absolutely ridiculous too!
                              Last edited by Michael; 11-12-2012, 07:58 PM.

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