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  • daycare
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    • Feb 2011
    • 16259

    Need Help With School Paper...Agree Or Disagree??

    So I had to watch a video for my class that talks about how teachers interact with children to promote a positive climate, minimize classroom negativity, be sensitive and responsive to children’s needs, and show regard for children’s perspectives.

    So in the video, a little girl arrives crying. The teacher goes to the child and says good bye to the parent and walks away, waving good bye to the mother. In the video there is a large group of children there and only one other person there to assist.

    The teacher continues to assist the crying girl all through out the video. She talks to how she is feeling, helps her identify her current way she is feeling and then tells her that she should draw a picture for her mother. Mean while, all of the other kids are going NUTS..... The teacher does not acknowledge them at all and continues to help the crying girl. When trying to find the right color of paper the girl wants, they discover that color is out. So the teacher takes the child to a closet to get search for the specific color of paper. Finally they find it. The girl is no longer crying and the teacher continues to keep all of her attention on this one child.

    OK....so now here is where I need the help....The question was do you agree or disagree on how the teacher met the crying child's needs????? EDIT....... sorry the question was did the teacher meet the needs of ALL of the children, including the crying girls needs???

    So I said NO. I write this long reason as to why I do not agree basically saying that the one child took all of the attention away from the entire group for an extended period that was not acceptable. Then went on to say that while the teacher did validate the child's feelings and comforted the child, she also neglected the rest of the kids.... NOt exactly these words, but something to this degree.

    I get to the next phase of the video class and it says my response was WRONG...............can someone please tell me what you would do in this situation? Do you agree or disagree with the way the teacher resolved this issue of the crying girl.

    ugh....thanks
    Last edited by daycare; 10-29-2012, 02:56 PM.
  • sharlan
    Daycare.com Member
    • May 2011
    • 6067

    #2
    I disagree with how the teacher handled it. This child's needs distracted the teacher to the point where the other children were neglected.

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    • MarinaVanessa
      Family Childcare Home
      • Jan 2010
      • 7211

      #3
      Based on the OP and without having seen the video myself I have to disagree with the video's answer. If the question is whether the teacher met ALL of the child's needs then no, she didn't. I think that she may have met this particular child's needs but the needs of all of the children. Where was the other adult btw? And why were the kids going crazy? Were they not being supervised?

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      • littlemissmuffet
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 2194

        #4
        I think the teacher handled the situation poorly. I would have walked the child into the classroom, told her "I understand you are feeling sad and miss mommy, but mommy had to go and you are staying here. I am sorry you are sad, would a hug make you feel better?" I always offer hugs when a kiddo is sad, they usually take it and calm down.
        If the child didn't want a hug and was still being disruptive, they would be sit on a chair away from the rest of the group and told once they calm themselves down that they may rejoin us. And I would continue on with my daily routine, tending to the class as a WHOLE.

        I would not offer the child to draw a picture UNLESS it was arts/crafts time and the whole class was drawing. I most certainly wouldn't put my day on hodl to find a child a particular color of paper either, just so they stopped crying.

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        • daycare
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          • Feb 2011
          • 16259

          #5
          Originally posted by MarinaVanessa
          Based on the OP and without having seen the video myself I have to disagree with the video's answer. If the question is whether the teacher met ALL of the child's needs then no, she didn't. I think that she may have met this particular child's needs but the needs of all of the children. Where was the other adult btw? And why were the kids going crazy? Were they not being supervised?
          they don't show where the other adult is or what the kids are doing....You can hear them going crazy with their loud voices. The camera focus on the teacher and crying girl the entire time.

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          • daycare
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            • Feb 2011
            • 16259

            #6
            Originally posted by littlemissmuffet
            I think the teacher handled the situation poorly. I would have walked the child into the classroom, told her "I understand you are feeling sad and miss mommy, but mommy had to go and you are staying here. I am sorry you are sad, would a hug make you feel better?" I always offer hugs when a kiddo is sad, they usually take it and calm down.
            If the child didn't want a hug and was still being disruptive, they would be sit on a chair away from the rest of the group and told once they calm themselves down that they may rejoin us. And I would continue on with my daily routine, tending to the class as a WHOLE.

            I would not offer the child to draw a picture UNLESS it was arts/crafts time and the whole class was drawing. I most certainly wouldn't put my day on hodl to find a child a particular color of paper either, just so they stopped crying.
            hahahh I think we wrote similar responses... I still just don't understand how I was wrong??

            I will have to call my professor out on this and ask why. I could see that it was taken care of the right way, if the other teacher had control of the group. BUT at the same time I think that the other kids got to see that crying gets your special things and treatment???

            Maybe I am just harsh?????IDK?

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            • Crystal
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 4002

              #7
              Provided that the rest of the group was being properly supervised, I would say yes, the needs of the group were met.

              The thining here is that the teacher assisted the child in transitioning from home to school, provided her with emotional support, offered her the opportuntiy to draw a picture for her Mommy to help her feel better about Mommmy leaving (I miss Mommy and she misses me too, if I write to her I feel better and so does she) , etc.

              I don't know if there are further details, like is this the child's first week, month, etc. at school, has she ever been in group care before, etc. Those factors would play in to my decision of wether or not I would address the issues in the way this teacher did. If those are factors, I would say that the teacher is instilling a sense of trust, safety and security for the little girl while she adjusts to her new envrionment.

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              • daycare
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                • Feb 2011
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                #8
                Originally posted by Crystal
                Provided that the rest of the group was being properly supervised, I would say yes, the needs of the group were met.

                The thining here is that the teacher assisted the child in transitioning from home to school, provided her with emotional support, offered her the opportuntiy to draw a picture for her Mommy to help her feel better about Mommmy leaving (I miss Mommy and she misses me too, if I write to her I feel better and so does she) , etc.

                I don't know if there are further details, like is this the child's first week, month, etc. at school, has she ever been in group care before, etc. Those factors would play in to my decision of wether or not I would address the issues in the way this teacher did. If those are factors, I would say that the teacher is instilling a sense of trust, safety and security for the little girl while she adjusts to her new envrionment.
                those are some very valid questions that you bring up.. and I do agree that her being new or not to the daycare would play a huge difference in how I would respond to the child.

                I have a child that has been here almost 2 years and every day same thing. scream cries for the first 10min she is here...no clue why, she won't say...and if I even think about huging this one, gggeerrrrr... all you know what breaks loose

                To answer your question, those factors were not addressed in the video....

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                • MarinaVanessa
                  Family Childcare Home
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 7211

                  #9
                  Originally posted by daycare
                  they don't show where the other adult is or what the kids are doing....You can hear them going crazy with their loud voices. The camera focus on the teacher and crying girl the entire time.
                  Based on this info then I would say that I could see why the answer was what it was. Kids are loud naturally and unless you can see them going crazy I wouldn't base that on the fact that it sounds like they are being loud. They could have been doing an activity that sounds loud but keeps them occupied etc. Since the focus was mainly on the unhappy girl and the teacher in the video that is probably what the question was reffering to even though it said "all of the children".

                  If I saw a video like this and you couldn't see any other children then I'd assume that the question was a general question refferring to what was seen in the video. I bet it's just a general question meant for more than one video and either you won't be seeing the other videos or just havn't seen them yet. My "child, family and community" teacher used a worksheet with the same questions on it for when we watched videos and even though some questions didn't apply to any specific video we use them when we watched them. I bet "all of the children" just meant all of the children being shown in the video meaning the one child. But I'd ask your teacher.

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                  • Hunni Bee
                    False Sense Of Authority
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 2397

                    #10
                    If the rest of the children were not shown in the video, and all you saw was the teacher and the one little girl, then how can the question ask whether the needs of all the children met??

                    You can only assume that they were not, if there was no evidence of another adult, and the teacher in the video never returned her attention to them.

                    I would definitely call the professor on that one. It doesn't make sense to me.

                    FWIW...I definitely agree with her choice of how to help the little girl. I use that regularly, just the other day as a matter of fact. My coteacher was out, and we had a sub, and one little girl is very attached to the regular teacher. We wrote her a note together, but the other children were properly supervised. If they werent, I would not have chosen to do that, and I absolutely would not have gone into a closet

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                    • snips&snails
                      New Daycare.com Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 91

                      #11
                      Is this video from the CLASS scoring system? I have seen it when I did that training I do believe. I have also been present in centers while they are filming thses scenarios - there ARE more teachers present they just try & stay out of the way.
                      Having worked in centers (where we ALWAYS have other teachers present) I am a bit surprised at the attitudes. BTW, CLASS is very well researched so listen to what the instructor is trying to teach through this scenario

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                      • daycarediva
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 11698

                        #12
                        If they weren't showing another teacher and the other kids, then I would always assume not supervised.

                        I do what pp said, offer a child a hug, or to snuggle alone, or to stay near me while I attend to the group. It isn't realistic in a group care setting to focus that much attention on each child. Also, if you start it, the kid will expect it and you have created a cycle where you are doing this every day.

                        We always draw pictures for Mommy at arts and crafts time, so while I might have said "Later we can draw a picture for Mommy dcg!"

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                        • Michael
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                          • Aug 2007
                          • 7951

                          #13
                          Originally posted by snips&snails
                          Is this video from the CLASS scoring system? I have seen it when I did that training I do believe. I have also been present in centers while they are filming thses scenarios - there ARE more teachers present they just try & stay out of the way.
                          Having worked in centers (where we ALWAYS have other teachers present) I am a bit surprised at the attitudes. BTW, CLASS is very well researched so listen to what the instructor is trying to teach through this scenario
                          Welcome to the Daycare.com Forum! I've upgraded your status. You can post freely now.

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                          • daycare
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                            • Feb 2011
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by snips&snails
                            Is this video from the CLASS scoring system? I have seen it when I did that training I do believe. I have also been present in centers while they are filming thses scenarios - there ARE more teachers present they just try & stay out of the way.
                            Having worked in centers (where we ALWAYS have other teachers present) I am a bit surprised at the attitudes. BTW, CLASS is very well researched so listen to what the instructor is trying to teach through this scenario
                            Hello fellow CA Provider.....

                            It is actually a paper that I have to write for my class. The teacher may have gotten it from CLASS. I had to watch the video online from her site and then write about how I would handle the situation, along with if I agreed or not about how the teacher resolved the issue...... I have not taken CLASS scoring, but it sounds interesting.....

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                            • daycare
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                              • Feb 2011
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Hunni Bee
                              If the rest of the children were not shown in the video, and all you saw was the teacher and the one little girl, then how can the question ask whether the needs of all the children met??

                              You can only assume that they were not, if there was no evidence of another adult, and the teacher in the video never returned her attention to them.

                              I would definitely call the professor on that one. It doesn't make sense to me.

                              FWIW...I definitely agree with her choice of how to help the little girl. I use that regularly, just the other day as a matter of fact. My coteacher was out, and we had a sub, and one little girl is very attached to the regular teacher. We wrote her a note together, but the other children were properly supervised. If they werent, I would not have chosen to do that, and I absolutely would not have gone into a closet
                              I did not get too detailed about the video, however, when it starts, it shows a teacher and an assistant in a classroom full of kids. When the crying child arrives, the teacher leaves the group to assist the crying child...

                              As the video progresses, you can hear the children acting out of control. You hear children yelling at each other, whining, kids yelling thats mine, it sounds like an out of control bunch of kids.

                              For those that said they agree about how the teacher handled the situation, do you think that in anyway that the teacher went overboard? Do you think that if this is the way that the teacher always responds to this child over time that they are helping to form a bad or negative habit? One that will teach the child that this is how we get attention or send that message to the rest of the class???

                              thanks for your help..

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