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  • shelby
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 142

    #16
    Originally posted by glenechogirl
    I was thinking this too. If I saw something I didn't like, was unsafe, I wouldn't bring them back, at all, even once more.

    However, in the parents' defense, if you look at the timeline, the whole situation from start date to day of tragedy was only about 2 weeks. It could be that some people take awhile to think things over and they hesitated too much, weren't sure where else to take baby for care. No excuse in my opinion, just trying to think about why they'd keep returning. I certainly wouldn't. But that's easy to say when you're not the one in the situation.
    I do think that the parents probably had a lot of their own guilt after this happened.. wondering why they did not see things before it was too late, why this and why that... It was only a two week time frame, so I can see how they did not "get" the situation before their son died. How completely sad! If I was the parents I would have sued the provider just to get her license taken away. Makes me wonder why the state let her keep her license. :confused:

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    • JenNJ
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Jun 2010
      • 1212

      #17
      Originally posted by countrymom
      sorry I have more thoughts. I find it odd too that the mom saw the child on the floor sleeping. Wouldn't she have questioned as to why he wasn't sleeping in a pnp. I don't know, something about this bothers me. Also, the part about the provider putting on make up, maybe the parents where late coming to pick the child up, and the provider had no choice. I know accidents happen, but this one has too many loop holes in it.
      I see no issue with her putting on makeup if the kids were supervised. I had a wedding a few weeks ago on a Friday evening. I told everyone I was using naptime to do my hair and I would be walking out the door at 5pm when they were all picking up. I was in my little black dress, killer heels, and all dressed up when the kids were leaving.

      I had the kids in my line of vision when I did my hair and makeup during naptime. When I got dressed, I just popped into the bathroom and changed quickly -- no longer than a typical bathroom break. The kids were all right on the other side of the door as my bathroom is in the playroom.

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      • JenNJ
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 1212

        #18
        Originally posted by shelby
        I do think that the parents probably had a lot of their own guilt after this happened.. wondering why they did not see things before it was too late, why this and why that... It was only a two week time frame, so I can see how they did not "get" the situation before their son died. How completely sad! If I was the parents I would have sued the provider just to get her license taken away. Makes me wonder why the state let her keep her license. :confused:
        Because positional asphyxiation is considered an accidental death much like SIDS vs. a negligence issue. There is little to no education on the matter. I am actually going to my county and offering to teach a class on it. They don't offer one. It scares the hell out of me that SIDS is so covered, but people think it is safe for kids to sleep in carseats, swings, etc. It is the same thing as soft bedding, IMO.

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        • crazydaycarelady
          Not really crazy
          • Jul 2012
          • 1457

          #19
          If I have something going on in the evening I sometimes have to get ready before the kids go home also.

          I participated in a Safe Sleep Study. They came and looked at the children after I had put them down for naps. We then took some classes on safe sleep practices. Afterwards they came and observed the kids during naptime again. One thing I found interesting was that having a pacifier was a good thing during naps. Apparently the ****ing prevents the baby from falling into that deep deep sleep. I beleive that all providers in Montana are now required to take the Safe Sleep classes.

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          • DCBlessings27
            Daycare.com Member
            • Feb 2012
            • 332

            #20
            Originally posted by crazydaycarelady
            This is a terrible story but I think we need to remember that this is only one side of the story. A few things seem odd to me. For example how could the state know that the DCP was "in her bed" when they showed up, wouldn't she have to get up to answer the door? Also they make it sound like kids sleeping on the floor is horrible. I have kids sleep on nap mats on the floor.

            But then other things seem strange to me too. I wouldn't be putting a 5mo into a kiddy pool, or laying a baby on the floor to sleep on a folded sleeping bag.
            I do know that it's just one side of the story. As to the state finding her "in her bed," those results weren't from the parents. That's how the report would have read. It's not uncommon for dc providers to leave their doors unlocked, so I assume the state would have walked in after not receiving an answer. Also, for the sleeping on the floor. It wouldn't have been a big deal and likely would have been mentioned if the provider was using mats on the floor. We can use mats, but we can't just lay the kids on the floor. Infants are NOT allowed to be on a folded blanket on the floor. Infants are only allowed to be in a pnp or crib. So, the provider was obviously not following the safe sleep regulation.

            I agree with others though, and I would not have returned to the daycare after the issues that the parents had seen and dealt with. It's really sad that it takes a death for the parents to do their homework on the provider even when faced with red flags.

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            • Nickel
              Daycare.com Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 615

              #21
              I got chills reading this. This easily could have been my family. When my youngest was born i had a fcc provider. I came to pick up my dd and she was on her belly on the sofa sleeping. Then one day i got out of work early and she wasnt home (but she "never" left house with dcks). I was very uncomfortable when i came in tje middle of the day and some man was at her house. I was on the waiting list for base daycare and they were able to bump me up when i explained my concerns. I called fri and started mon. She called me screaming that night saying i turned her in but i didnt. I guess the daycare notified the base fcc office and they showed up at her door. Im not sure what happened but i am glad i did what i did for the well being of my dd.

              Its easy as a provider to know what parents should be looking for, not as easy for the parent. Many of my newborn parents have no idea what to ask during an interview. Its not that they dont care, many of them just dont know.

              My heart goes out to this family.
              Last edited by Nickel; 10-23-2012, 09:07 AM. Reason: clarify

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              • rhymia1
                Daycare.com Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 220

                #22
                Originally posted by JenNJ
                So terrible.

                Shame on the state for not having open files on providers and daycares. Shame on the provider for doing things the easy way, not the safe way. Shame on the parents for not doing their homework before this tragedy occurred. Shame on them again for not removing their child when they caught the provider doing something so dangerous.

                This child was killed at the hands of a lot of adults. It is a needless death that could have been prevented by a lot of adults if they cared.
                I agree

                I can't even imagine. When my oldest was about 5 months old we put in her in an in home child care. The day I picked up and was told that she had taken my dd in the car for a trip to the grocery store about 45 minutes away (without my prior knowledge or consent) was the last day my child went to that caregiver. There are no second chances when it comes to safety, IMO.

                Bottom line, the provider should have known better, but it was obvious to the parent that she did not

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