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    #31
    Just stating the facts.When you let the children decide when and what they are going to do regarding meal time this is what you will get.I'm not sure how you can properly supervise all the children when some are at the table,some are playing,napping(outside according to another poster) Keep them all together and that would have solved that problem of the kids doing whatever they wanted to do. Yes kids act up when people come over.You wanted a solution-Keep them all at the table at the same time, when that mom came to pick up her kid early she would have seen six kids enjoying a nice lunch together,waiting for their friends to finish and then being excused all at the same time.Not the situation you described.

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    • Country Kids
      Nature Lover
      • Mar 2011
      • 5051

      #32
      Mods-is there a way to remove or not approve this posters posts. Its getting ridiculous and I'm tired of it.

      Clearly the person is not even reading the posts but wanting to stir up trouble.
      Each day is a fresh start
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      • Unregistered

        #33
        I've read every post.Why is my opinion ridiculous? i offered some solid advice.Sorry,I just say it like it is.I don't sugar coat anything.As a matter of fact I'm sitting right here with 12 kids all eating their lunch nicely.When they are ALL done I will excuse one at a time into the playroom where my assistant will be.Then we proceed to the next thing,all at the same time,everyone doing the same thing.See how that makes the kids know what they're suppose to be doing.
        That's my opinion! If it's not what you want to hear or doesn't help you then ignore it.

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        • Country Kids
          Nature Lover
          • Mar 2011
          • 5051

          #34
          OK, I'm going to clarify-

          We always sit together while we eat!

          Yesterday went like this:

          Child 1=threw a fit/was allowed down/ran around instead of laying down
          Child 2,3,4=didn't eat but were not allowed down (#2 child didn't nap during naptime and was getting up when people came in)
          Child 5=Ate but was acting up
          Child 6=Mom was here

          Previous posts-I never said 3 out of 6 children got up early. I said 3 out of 6 didn't eat-totally different then getting up early.

          What I'm really confused about is one of the "Guests" said a poster said they allowed children to nap outside-I still can't find that one. Someone said kids play outside but not nap. That is why I asked "Guests" to really, really read the posts before posting.

          Enough said-moving on and hopefully everything resumes to normal (whatever that is-) today!
          Each day is a fresh start
          Never look back on regrets
          Live life to the fullest
          We only get one shot at this!!

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          • Blackcat31
            • Oct 2010
            • 36124

            #35
            Originally posted by Country Kids
            OK, I'm going to clarify-

            Previous posts-I never said 3 out of 6 children got up early. I said 3 out of 6 didn't eat-totally different then getting up early.
            You said:

            "We were actually eating lunch so that should have solved the problem but no-I had 3 out of 6 get down without eating!"

            Which I understood as getting down early while the others were still eating too.

            I can see how it can be taken both ways. Sorry if I mis-interpreted your words but wanted to point out how it could happen that way for others too.

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            • My3cents
              Daycare.com Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 3387

              #36
              Crystal- I loved your first post, but then your 2nd post was like Wow. I don't know which post I liked better. It was nice to see you come a little unglued as we all do- Can we give a daily posting award out!::

              Unregistered- try to be a little nicer, input that helps another provider goes farther then comparing someones "issues at the moment" to a zoo.

              :: I love my ZOO and yes we do reach Zoo level every so often-

              I have littles and when someone comes in they always act up, or if I get on the telephone. I don't act any different then I normally do. I would like to think that but I am sure that when I am standing in front of another adult, the parent of the child, my demeanor is much nicer then the everyday way. (I am still nice everyday) I think it is natural for us to do that, no matter if daycare or another social setting. I don't want to step on the toes of the parent disciplining when I feel that the parent should step in and do that with their child while in my presence. It is hard, because all of are roles are out of normal sinc in these moments.

              My kids are in high chairs and to avoid kaos for me, I take them one at a time, change them up and put them down for rest. I get rest cots,mats ready while they are eating and blankets and loveys. If they were older and had more control I would let them up and help them get settled in as they were done. When I have my after school kids during the day this is how I do it with them. I say do what works for you. Trial and error.

              Thanks for the thursday get me through one more day posting-
              Best to all-

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              • Crystal
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 4002

                #37
                Originally posted by Blackcat31
                There are two unregistered posters. They are not one and the same although the one who called CountryKids care a zoo has made more than one post.


                I don't think her intent was to cause trouble (although her words could have been chosen more carefully). I could also be wrong about that but I try really hard to always see both sides.

                She (unregistered) said she has read alot of CK's other posts and because of those, she made the comment about her environment being like a zoo. That part wasn't very constructive or helpful but she is entitled to her opinion, whether we like it or not.

                I agree to some extent that the first couple posts made by CK were confusing as I too thought she first said that only half the kids were still sitting down and a couple had gotten up and then in a post farther down she says she makes them all sit at the table until they are ALL done which to me was saying two different things.

                Going back now and re-reading, I am thinking she NORMALLY makes then all stay sitting down until done but this partiular time, she allowed a couple to leave the table so I was confused too at first.

                Anyways, not saying the unregistered is helpful or nice, but she is certainly entitled to her opinion. If we, as members have issues with unregistered posters, I think the best thing to do is to reply in a "professional" manner or not reply at all.
                Ya know BlackCat....I agree that unregistered users are entitled to their opinion (just as I am, and I shared) and quite often there are posts from unregistered users that are helpful, thoughtful and considerate. There have actually been many times I have defended unregistered users. However, this particular unregistered did not offer any constructive advice. She belittled CK, told her her daycare sounds like a zoo, and quite frankly posted for no reason other than to start c*r*a*p.

                So, if an unregistered user comes here and posts pot stirring garbage, and is entitled to her opinion, then I am not going to NOT reply, I am going to call her out on it.

                It is one thing to come and discuss, it's another completely to be MEAN.

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                • MissAnn
                  Preschool Teacher
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 2213

                  #38
                  Wow...I really missed this! Too bad naptime is over and I can't read it all! Let's be honest....as good as we are, we all have those "moments".....every one of us. Our kids are not robots and neither are we. I am totally imperfect and so are my kids. This place is for support and not for tooting your own horn.....oh perfect one who is unregistered!

                  I adore imperfect people.....honest people....caring peope....and people who come in here to share and ask for support! bye now...gotta do the after nap routine!

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                  • Crystal
                    Advanced Daycare.com Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 4002

                    #39
                    Originally posted by My3cents
                    Crystal- I loved your first post, but then your 2nd post was like Wow. I don't know which post I liked better. It was nice to see you come a little unglued as we all do- Can we give a daily posting award out!::

                    Unregistered- try to be a little nicer, input that helps another provider goes farther then comparing someones "issues at the moment" to a zoo.

                    :: I love my ZOO and yes we do reach Zoo level every so often-

                    I have littles and when someone comes in they always act up, or if I get on the telephone. I don't act any different then I normally do. I would like to think that but I am sure that when I am standing in front of another adult, the parent of the child, my demeanor is much nicer then the everyday way. (I am still nice everyday) I think it is natural for us to do that, no matter if daycare or another social setting. I don't want to step on the toes of the parent disciplining when I feel that the parent should step in and do that with their child while in my presence. It is hard, because all of are roles are out of normal sinc in these moments.

                    My kids are in high chairs and to avoid kaos for me, I take them one at a time, change them up and put them down for rest. I get rest cots,mats ready while they are eating and blankets and loveys. If they were older and had more control I would let them up and help them get settled in as they were done. When I have my after school kids during the day this is how I do it with them. I say do what works for you. Trial and error.

                    Thanks for the thursday get me through one more day posting-
                    Best to all-
                    Awwww....I feel so honored. Thanks! LOL! ::

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                    • Blackcat31
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 36124

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Crystal
                      Ya know BlackCat....I agree that unregistered users are entitled to their opinion (just as I am, and I shared) and quite often there are posts from unregistered users that are helpful, thoughtful and considerate. There have actually been many times I have defended unregistered users. However, this particular unregistered did not offer any constructive advice. She belittled CK, told her her daycare sounds like a zoo, and quite frankly posted for no reason other than to start c*r*a*p.

                      So, if an unregistered user comes here and posts pot stirring garbage, and is entitled to her opinion, then I am not going to NOT reply, I am going to call her out on it.

                      It is one thing to come and discuss, it's another completely to be MEAN.
                      I totally hear what you are saying but I didn't really read anything the poster said that was simply starting crap.

                      She said:

                      "What exactly were they doing? I'm kind of confused.If you say they were sitting eating lunch what behavior was crazy?"

                      Here she is asking for clarification. Nothing wrong with that.


                      "I've read alot of your other post and it sounds like these kids have no discipline.You need to get control of the kids and your daycare before people do start pulling their kids."


                      An opinion. Again, nothing wrong with that.


                      "I would have sat every one of the kids down and told them that their behavior was unacceptable and explained why and how they are to behave when people come to your house.Tell them what will happen if they don't and follow through the next time."

                      Here in these sentences, she offered up what she would do in the OP's situation. Which is exactly what we all do when replying to someone.

                      "From your previous post it sounds like it is a zoo at the daycare and you are going to lose your mind if you don't get it figured out soon. So sorry everyone acted like a fool!"

                      This was maybe not so nice but was her personal opinion about the way CK runs her business based on her previos posts. Like I said, maybe not the nicest thing to say but most definitely not worst and definitely not off target when the OP herself said "they just act like they have no control" and "kids went balistic" and "this group I have is very trying" and "this group is very hard behavioral wise".

                      Pretty much sounds like chaos to me. Or a zoo I guess to some people. I personally wouldn't have used that word but I see where she is coming from.

                      Then the very last thing the unregistered poster said was "So sorry everyone acted like a fool!" which to me was supportive and if not, atleast empathetic.

                      So no, I don't agree that the unregistered poster was simply looking to cause trouble and stir the pot. I also posted about I was personally confused as to what CK meant too.

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                      • Crystal
                        Advanced Daycare.com Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 4002

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered
                        Just stating the facts.When you let the children decide when and what they are going to do regarding meal time this is what you will get.I'm not sure how you can properly supervise all the children when some are at the table,some are playing,napping(outside according to another poster) Keep them all together and that would have solved that problem of the kids doing whatever they wanted to do. Yes kids act up when people come over.You wanted a solution-Keep them all at the table at the same time, when that mom came to pick up her kid early she would have seen six kids enjoying a nice lunch together,waiting for their friends to finish and then being excused all at the same time.Not the situation you described.
                        If you are referring to me, I supervise my children just fine. All 14 of them. My children have been taught appropriate behavior and they know my expectations. I do not have to have my eyes on them every single second. I also have a full time assistant and at any given time have 1-2 student teachers working, so there is plenty of supervision. I have never had any major injuries, lost a kid or had any issues with them misbehaving when I RESPECTFULLY treat them as INDIVIDUALS by allowing them to control how much they eat (if they want to eat at all) and allowing them to move about freely when they are done instead of restriciting them to a chair where they are going to get bored and stir up trouble.

                        But, thanks for your educated opinion about how I must not be able to properly supervise.

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                        • Crystal
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 4002

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Blackcat31
                          I totally hear what you are saying but I didn't really read anything the poster said that was simply starting crap.

                          She said:

                          "What exactly were they doing? I'm kind of confused.If you say they were sitting eating lunch what behavior was crazy?"

                          Here she is asking for clarification. Nothing wrong with that. Agreed, nothing wrong with that.


                          "I've read alot of your other post and it sounds like these kids have no discipline.You need to get control of the kids and your daycare before people do start pulling their kids."


                          An opinion. Again, nothing wrong with that.
                          I suppose nothing wrong with having an opinion, but it still implies that CK is not doing a good job with her children.

                          "I would have sat every one of the kids down and told them that their behavior was unacceptable and explained why and how they are to behave when people come to your house.Tell them what will happen if they don't and follow through the next time."

                          Here in these sentences, she offered up what she would do in the OP's situation. Which is exactly what we all do when replying to someone. true there....she did offer some advice, I suppose THAT was not trying to start crap....but the rest of the post....not so much

                          "From your previous post it sounds like it is a zoo at the daycare and you are going to lose your mind if you don't get it figured out soon. So sorry everyone acted like a fool!"

                          This was maybe not so nice but was her personal opinion about the way CK runs her business based on her previos posts. Like I said, maybe not the nicest thing to say but most definitely not worst and definitely not off target when the OP herself said "they just act like they have no control" and "kids went balistic" and "this group I have is very trying" and "this group is very hard behavioral wise". The problem here is that 1. she was insulting 2. she was not being supportive, at all. Yes, the OP said those things, BUT that doesn't mean that SHE doesn't provide discpline. It's the group, and likely caused by lack of discipline for all of them at home that spills over into daycare. You get 12 kids who all lack discipline from their parents and it creates a perfect storm of bad group behavior. That doesn't give the UNREGISTERED the right to imply that it is the OP's fault or that her place is a Zoo.

                          Pretty much sounds like chaos to me. Or a zoo I guess to some people. I personally wouldn't have used that word but I see where she is coming from.

                          Then the very last thing the unregistered poster said was "So sorry everyone acted like a fool!" which to me was supportive and if not, atleast empathetic.

                          So no, I don't agree that the unregistered poster was simply looking to cause trouble and stir the pot. I also posted about I was personally confused as to what CK meant too.
                          Again, as you said earlier, we are all entitled to our opinion. Out of respect for you,I have responded in blue above and I will leave it at that. I stated my opinion, and I am done. However, my opinion remains the same, but thanks for trying to sway me

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                          • Blackcat31
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 36124

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Crystal
                            Again, as you said earlier, we are all entitled to our opinion. Out of respect for you,I have responded in blue above and I will leave it at that. I stated my opinion, and I am done. However, my opinion remains the same, but thanks for trying to sway me
                            I see BOTH sides.

                            Sometimes, that is a good thing and sometimes not so good.

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                            • Country Kids
                              Nature Lover
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 5051

                              #44
                              OK, OK it was the zoo part that offended me as I consider us more of a Jungle!-

                              I want our doorbell to ring "Welcome to the Jungle" by Guns and Roses-
                              Each day is a fresh start
                              Never look back on regrets
                              Live life to the fullest
                              We only get one shot at this!!

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                              • Blackcat31
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 36124

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Country Kids
                                OK, OK it was the zoo part that offended me as I consider us more of a Jungle!-

                                I want our doorbell to ring "Welcome to the Jungle" by Guns and Roses-
                                My web-site music is Ozzy Osbournes "Crazy Train"

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