A Political Poll - Just For Fun

[Willow]

Personally I think this is the big problem with our country - wracking up debt like crazy - not being responsible for our debts. Since when is it okay to not pay your bills & who is making up the difference for what isn't paid??

BAM.

And that is exactly why someone like Romney *might* be able to do the economy some good.


I have a feeling he'd dole out a whole 'lotta "tough love." And that's exactly the lesson the population needs right now. Might be uncomfortable for many for awhile but putting a cap on all of this ridiculous spending that no one is taking responsibility for is the only way we're going to get the heck out of this mess.

[daycare]

Daycare, why don't you get to vote?

Because I'm not a us citizen. Only a legal resident.

[Willow]

32 million on food stamps four years ago, 47 million on food stamps now??

But this is what Obama calls progress!



And according to the left it's going to take another four years of sinking how much further to fix it?

[jen]

Thanks for the civil back and forth, I love talking about this kind of stuff

1. A direct result of the Affordable Care Act (Obama care). I'm not sure how you can say that doesn't have to do with Obama.

"Coverage for Young Adults: Under the Affordable Care Act, young adults under age 26 can stay on their parent’s health insurance plan until age 26 – a change that has already allowed 3.1 million young adults to get health coverage and given their families peace of mind."


While the idea that it's helping your individual family specifically right now is I'm sure a reassuring one, are you aware of who PPACA is coming at the expense of?
\Actually, I wrote a giant-a** paper on health care in this country, I am well educated on this point. Providing, insisting even, that people have insurance is a good investment...and MUCH less expensive than covering the uninsured. People still get healthcare....in the ER and when a simple cold is now pnuemonia and requires hospitalization. People with health insurance seek care earlier and are healthier.

2. I don't know your personal housing situation but we were able to refinance under the Making Homes Affordable program. I thank President Obama for that program.

Making Homes Affordable was as backward as a program could be.

Your family may have been helped temporarily, but my children's children's children are going to be paying back the BILLIONS of dollars needed to bail out those lenders (GMAC, CitiMortgage etc).

And this is exactly the problem with America's economy today. It was spritzing a garden hose on an oil rig fire. It's a fix for today, and only today, and only for a select number of people.....at the expense of millions of people generations down the road.

The banks were bailed out and some of the TARP funds were used to prevent forclosures. Many banks have already paid back their TARP funds.

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2009/06/...xits-continue/

3. Again, I don't know your personal student loan situatin. I do know that under President Obama's student loan overhaul, payments are capped at 10% of income rather than 15; at 20 years unpaid balances are forgiven as opposed to 25 years and 10 years for pubic service employees.

So who ultimately pays the final bill for all of those unpaid forgiven balances?

And if they're capped and people are paying less on them isn't that going to push more into having their balances forgiven too?

I addressed this in a couple of other posts but the general deal is that college grads generally earn more and pay in more. Investing in our students is an investment our future.

4. Yes, he really did say to let the auto industry tank; fortunately he isn't the president so that didn't happen.

People took a single sentence and and fluffed it up to epic and ridiculous proportions.

Obama did EXACTLY what Romney suggested, and look at what happened.

It is the only economic success Obama has had during his term and it wasn't even his to claim.

???

5. Yes, he really suggested that the foclosure process proceed. Fortunately, again, he was not in power.

That's not what he said. He suggested we let it run it's course, yes, but only to avoid, once again, adding to our skyrocketing federal deficit and tanking economy.

The program was designed to help 4 million people avoid foreclosure......but do you know how many it actually did?

1I am aware that the program was designed to help many more people than it did


Last I checked 25% is not a passing grade.


And again, at who's expense did this occur?

It's a program my children's children's children are going to someday still be paying for.

I may have lost my home but at least my kids and theirs aren't going to have to pay for it.

6. I understand that his 13% is bigger than mine.


The above is all that matters. Ack! I am not good at this editing thing! I missed the whole bottom of your post. Sorry. As for the above being all that matters. I understand that is your opinion, and I respectfully disagree. It is not all that matters to me.


The reason why many (notice I didn't say all) people don't care to get off their duffs and work to pay for what they have and want is because in this country people that try harder and accomplish more are expected to pick up their slack.

IMHO, people that accomplish more and contribute more deserve some credit for that.

7. I don't want his religious issues in my government.

Agree with you there.

And I already gave one example of how Obamas preferences are treading all over mine.

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OK...I am in the final few months of my master's program and I have to do a discussion question before I hit the sack. Good night! I enjoyed our chat.

[Breezy]

I love Romneys commitment to the military! That's so important to my family. Especially since the current cuts are about to devastate my family within the next week or so.

[Lucy]

Obama because...

My college age son has health insurance;

I was able to refinance my underwater home;

Because the changes he's made too our student loan program helps make college affordable and ensures our children won't be saddled with life long debt;

Because in my view, family looks like people who love and support each other regardlessf sexual orientation.

Romney...

Wanted to let the auto industry tank;

Wanted to let housing market tank;

Pays less percentage wise in taxes than I do;

When he has a uterus he can talk to me about what to do with mine;

Plus, I can't possibly vote for a man who doesn't understand why airplane widows don't open.

Love this. Perfectly represents my views. Thank you. (I must have missed the one about the airplane windows ??)

[Lucy]

Quoting Jen:

"Actually, I wrote a giant-a** paper on health care in this country, I am well educated on this point. Providing, insisting even, that people have insurance is a good investment...and MUCH less expensive than covering the uninsured. People still get healthcare....in the ER and when a simple cold is now pnuemonia and requires hospitalization. People with health insurance seek care earlier and are healthier."

I'm not disagreeing with you... I wanted to ask a question since you are more versed on this topic than I am. My husband claims that forcing everyone to have health insurance or else be penalized, will cause employers to stop offering health insurance because they know that people are forced to have it, so they will go out and find it on their own. I don't argue with him, but it seems like he might be missing something here. Your thoughts?

[dave4him]

Why does it feel like a vote between the lesser of two evils sometimes. Still i cannot vote for anyone who does not respect leaders from other countries, such as Israel
Ug

[lovemykidstoo]

Wow, when I graduated from college I paid all my student loans in FULL. I am not THAT old (just turned 40) & had all my loans paid off within 5 years of graduation. Personally I think this is the big problem with our country - wracking up debt like crazy - not being responsible for our debts. Since when is it okay to not pay your bills & who is making up the difference for what isn't paid??

Exactly, that was my point. So we're adding more debt to our country forgiving people's loans. Sure makes the college kids want to vote for Obama though because they don't understand what it really means. All they hear is they don't have to pay all of their loans back.

[EchoMom]

I am thouroughly disappointed with both candidates and would love to vote Republican but they've nominated a terrible person to run.

My vote is not a vote FOR Romney, but a vote AGAINST Obama.
Romney. For lack of better option.

[MN Mom]

My husband claims that forcing everyone to have health insurance or else be penalized, will cause employers to stop offering health insurance because they know that people are forced to have it, so they will go out and find it on their own. I don't argue with him, but it seems like he might be missing something here. Your thoughts?

My husbands employer (his parents farm, which employs aprox 100 people) quit offering Insurance as of October 1st. They sent a letter out with everyone's paycheck in the middle of July stating, "Due to rising costs and provisions now in effect as per the Affordable Healthcare Act, we will no longer be offering insurance as of October 1st 2012. Heres a number of someone we recommend you to call for private insurance."

Our insurance had already lapsed several times under the group policy due to rising costs..and our costs went from it being covered by the employer 5 years ago, to us paying almost 200/week by the time it ended. The deductible was 5,000/person and the prescription coverage was AWFUL. For the last 2 years I've been paying out of pocket rather than presenting my insurance as I would never meet the insane deductible anyways...AND if you present insurance the doctors charge more.

Case in point: My kids go for a checkup at a local Dr's office in December. By presenting insurance for my 2 kids for a Strep diagnosis it was 170 per kid. When I went in 2 months later with pneumonia, I asked if I could pay cash, and they charged me $65.00.

Fast forward to Labor day: My sons ear pain was horrid, so I found an urgent care center open. I avoid using urgent care around here because it's terribly expensive. I had to take him. I had no choice. I told the center, can I pay cash today as I do not have insurance (which I didn't as we ended coverage as soon as we knew it wasn't going to be available coming October) and they said sure, that will be $100.00. Now I've been to Mayo Clinics urgent care centers before and the bill was NEVER 100.00! Always 200 + per visit. It is absolutely INSANE how much money it costs to bill through insurance.

So for the folks with high deductibles like we had. Offer to pay cash...in the end you will end up paying FAR less than by presenting insurance.

I am voting for Romney / Ryan. I cannot fathom 4 more years of rising food prices, gas prices, and the insane burdon / regulations being put on farmers (only one example of a small business affected by backdoor regulations) like my in laws. These last 4 years on the family farm have been too stressful and scary to want to go through again. We need strong leadership both here and abroad...not some wimpy, apologetic, race baiter, who has a record of calling racism whenever someone disagrees with his policy.

Also - we need the press to TELL THE TRUTH, and QUESTION BOLDY. Not coddle the president (whomever that may be) on tough issues, or avoid them completely. I shouldn't have to watch 3 different news outlets, CSPAN (1 and 2), and read 100 different articles to get bits and pieces of the truth. Getting clear and concise information has never been harder for the average american due the 24 hour news cycle, extreme favoritism, and sensationalism. Much of the press will omit truth if it's inconvenient to their bias. What they have forgotten is that the truth is almost ALWAYS inconvenient, but at least it's the friggin' TRUTH.

This country needs to face the hard and cold reality that we are in debt, the debt is growing, and the dollar is being devalued by unlimited printing of money, no thanks to Ben Bernanke and the Fed. If you want to know what happens to a nation when the currency is severely inflated by unlimited printing - look up the Weimar Republic Inflation. It's scary stuff.

[lovemykidstoo]

MN Mom I totally agree with everything you said.

Also about the insurance. My husband lost his job in March and is still not working. We had his company insurance for awhile, although the deductibles were $5,000 so basically like we didn't have insurance. I had to take my son to the doctor last week for his impetigo. The office call is normally $100. We told them that we didn't have insurance because his work policy had ended and we're in the process of buying our own insurance and they said they would charge us only $80. Only $20 off, but better than nothing. Basically the insurance that we are buying now it catastrophic insurance and it is $580 a month. Thanks Obama

[lovemykidstoo]

I just typed a response here, but it said it had to go through a moderator or something. What's that all about?

[MN Mom]

I've had that happen before...probably something in the filters or a bug. It should get resolved once a mod catches it.

[lovemykidstoo]

It was basically a post that agreed with you MN and I was saying that my husband lost his job in March and that we are in the process of finding insurance. Finally found one that is $580 a month and it is basically catastrophic. So we took our son to the dr last week for his impetigo and the office call is usually $100, since we paid cash they knocked it down to $80.