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  • DaisyMamma
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • May 2011
    • 2241

    Bad Choice Of Family? How To Deal With This?

    I enrolled a DCB of a single dad.
    Upon enrollment, he says mom is out of the picture due to cps and is not allowed to pick him up, etc etc etc.
    Now suddenly mom is back in the picture, seems to be staying at his house. She does not work. DCB is supposedly still going to be coming to aftercare.

    My guess is that cps doesn't know mom is at the house and DCB needs to come to daycare so they don't find out.

    My next guess is that as soon as cps gives the green light for mom to be back in the picture that DCB will not be coming anymore.

    Anyway, I have only one space available in my daycare. Another family with 2 kids is interested in coming! If the before mentioned DCB leaves I will have enough room.

    UGH.
    How to deal withthis??
  • familyschoolcare
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 1284

    #2
    First thing first ...

    So did you see anything in writing tell you that mom can not pick up or cannot be in the boys life?

    Have you seen mom?

    How do you know that mom is now in the picture?

    What if anything did DCB say about mom?

    YOur obligations might be different depending on the answers to the above questions.

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    • DaisyMamma
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • May 2011
      • 2241

      #3
      Dad said he had something in writing, but I never saw it.
      I have seen mom.
      I know mom is in the picture because, a. I saw her and b. DCB didnt come today because mom got him off the bus at dads house today.
      Today was suppose to be DCBs first day.

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      • Blackcat31
        • Oct 2010
        • 36124

        #4
        Your "guesses" may not be correct as far as what is actually going on between mom, dad and CPS, but the one thing I have learned in this business is to always go with your gut instincts.

        If you honestly feel this current family is going to be more work than they are worth, I would consider terming them and seeking a new enrollment.

        I am NOT saying this family IS going to be trouble or that CPS and the mom thing is going to be a headache but if you really feel that it is going to be a headache then listen to your instincts.

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        • daycare
          Advanced Daycare.com *********
          • Feb 2011
          • 16259

          #5
          this is a tough one..

          i would be telling DCD that you need that paper work by XYZ date and if you don't have it, you will let DCK go.

          That might be the easiest way out..

          also are you still in the two week trail?

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          • cheerfuldom
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 7413

            #6
            I would have an immediate discussion with DCD. You need to know, legally, what rights the mom has to this boy. If they are evasive or not following the legal agreement or asking you to do something illegal, then I would term immediately.

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            • DaisyMamma
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • May 2011
              • 2241

              #7
              Originally posted by daycare
              this is a tough one..

              i would be telling DCD that you need that paper work by XYZ date and if you don't have it, you will let DCK go.

              That might be the easiest way out..

              also are you still in the two week trail?
              Ive never required a two week trial. I should.
              The "deposit" he gave me was a check that he requested I not cash, but he will give me cash tomorrow instead, so tomorrow will be the deciding factor. If I dont get a payment I will call the other family. I feel like I made a poor choice enrolling this family, but I will at least see it through until payment is an issue, seeing as thats tomorrow.

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              • daycare
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                • Feb 2011
                • 16259

                #8
                Originally posted by DaisyMamma
                Ive never required a two week trial. I should.
                The "deposit" he gave me was a check that he requested I not cash, but he will give me cash tomorrow instead, so tomorrow will be the deciding factor. If I dont get a payment I will call the other family. I feel like I made a poor choice enrolling this family, but I will at least see it through until payment is an issue, seeing as thats tomorrow.
                if you are thinking of keeping the boy becuase of $$$ you will never be happy....trust me when I tell you this.

                If you have a gut feeling that it won't work out, I would pull the plug now and take on the other family. You have to do what is best for you and your company....

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                • DaisyMamma
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 2241

                  #9
                  Originally posted by daycare
                  if you are thinking of keeping the boy becuase of $$$ you will never be happy....trust me when I tell you this.

                  If you have a gut feeling that it won't work out, I would pull the plug now and take on the other family. You have to do what is best for you and your company....
                  Im not really worried about the $. Its an easy out if he doesnt pay tomorrow, thats all.

                  I get concerned about terming families because of being in such a small town...

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                  • DaisyMamma
                    Advanced Daycare.com Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 2241

                    #10
                    Originally posted by cheerfuldom
                    I would have an immediate discussion with DCD. You need to know, legally, what rights the mom has to this boy. If they are evasive or not following the legal agreement or asking you to do something illegal, then I would term immediately.
                    I figure the less I know, the better. Id rather not be involved, but now that you say it out loud I can see that I already am involved.

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                    • daycare
                      Advanced Daycare.com *********
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 16259

                      #11
                      Originally posted by DaisyMamma
                      Im not really worried about the $. Its an easy out if he doesnt pay tomorrow, thats all.

                      I get concerned about terming families because of being in such a small town...
                      I am also in a small town and trust me I have some people that i am on their poop-list...

                      BUT I can't please everyone and I am not going to try. If you are professional about it, then there should not be anything to worry about.

                      I tell parents at interviews that my DC is not for everyone and that I am also looking for that right fit for my group. I tell them that there are people who have tried my services and don't like it and then there are those that love me.

                      I tell them as much as I want to please everyone and be able to meet everyones needs, I'm not superman. It makes them laugh and they get it.

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                      • Lilbutterflie
                        Advanced Daycare.com Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 1359

                        #12
                        You could tell DCD that you are required to keep paperwork on file when CPS is involved; and you need copies of that paperwork turned in ASAP. For legal reasons, you really need to have this paperwork in your possession!!

                        Then, once you have the paperwork; you can see exactly what restrictions there are on mom. How do you know that mom is in the picture?

                        I wouldn't term this family based on only this, or based on the fact that there is another family who wants the spot. It just isn't fair, IMHO.

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                        • BumbleBee
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 2380

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DaisyMamma
                          I enrolled a DCB of a single dad.
                          Upon enrollment, he says mom is out of the picture due to cps and is not allowed to pick him up, etc etc etc.
                          Now suddenly mom is back in the picture, seems to be staying at his house. She does not work. DCB is supposedly still going to be coming to aftercare.

                          My guess is that cps doesn't know mom is at the house and DCB needs to come to daycare so they don't find out.

                          My next guess is that as soon as cps gives the green light for mom to be back in the picture that DCB will not be coming anymore.

                          Anyway, I have only one space available in my daycare. Another family with 2 kids is interested in coming! If the before mentioned DCB leaves I will have enough room.

                          UGH.
                          How to deal withthis??
                          If a parent says to me "other parent cannot pick up" I need to see the paper work and have a copy of said paper work on file. I cannot legally keep a child away from a parent without proper documentation-meaning from the court. I would have an immediate discussion with dcd and tell him you need the papers asap.

                          The other "issue" is if the legal documentation states that mom cannot be around/pick up the child and you are aware that mom is back in the picture, you could be in trouble with the state if you don't report it.

                          There is a reason the state banned mom from being around child.

                          The other thing is, dad told you mom can't pick up child but there is no documentation. In that case, I wouldn't think you could legally deny mom from picking up, just on dads word alone.

                          In short, talk to dad & get the paper work. If there is none-I would term for lying. To me, that's a big red flag. If he refuses to get the paper work, let him know that without the paper work you cannot deny a parent access to their child.

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                          • BumbleBee
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 2380

                            #14
                            Originally posted by DaisyMamma
                            Im not really worried about the $. Its an easy out if he doesnt pay tomorrow, thats all.

                            I get concerned about terming families because of being in such a small town...
                            I'm in a small town as well (498) and I worry about this to. ((Hugs))

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                            • Lilbutterflie
                              Advanced Daycare.com Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 1359

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Trummynme
                              If a parent says to me "other parent cannot pick up" I need to see the paper work and have a copy of said paper work on file. I cannot legally keep a child away from a parent without proper documentation-meaning from the court. I would have an immediate discussion with dcd and tell him you need the papers asap.

                              The other "issue" is if the legal documentation states that mom cannot be around/pick up the child and you are aware that mom is back in the picture, you could be in trouble with the state if you don't report it.

                              There is a reason the state banned mom from being around child.

                              The other thing is, dad told you mom can't pick up child but there is no documentation. In that case, I wouldn't think you could legally deny mom from picking up, just on dads word alone.

                              In short, talk to dad & get the paper work. If there is none-I would term for lying. To me, that's a big red flag. If he refuses to get the paper work, let him know that without the paper work you cannot deny a parent access to their child.
                              VERY WELL SAID!

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