Pull-Ups At Naptime-Does That Mean Potty Trained

[Blackcat31]

BC is watching this thread. Watching us sweat this out, trying to figure it out without anyone else. She watching her screen and smiling-.

We love you BC! What do you think-

you're probably right.....I see her right now sitting there laughing in her chair saying to herself I wonder how many silly ideas they will come up before I should say something to them.......

the torture....

Here I am! ::

I was not laughing AT you but I surely was laughing with you two! LOL!

My 2 cents? You are thinking way too deeply about this. Honestly, there are so many variables in this that you couldn't possibly include every possible scenario in your handbook. Well, I suppose you could but it would be so heavy none of the parents could take home a copy.

I think a child who still wets during nap time but uses the toilet during every other time regularly and without assistance IS potty trained. I would not make the child wear a pull up any other time except nap time. I would make sure the child goes before laying down though.

I have a 5 yr old who hasn't had an accident in 3 full years but will pee every so often during nap time. Usually dependent on how tired she is and how busy our morning was. She wears a pull up....just in case.

Some kids are not developmentally able to wake and pee and wetting during sleep is an issue well into adolesence. Nothing to be too bent out of shape about if it is really only happening during sleep periods.

As far as talking with parents and including such rules in your handbook, it seems to me it would just be much simplier and much more personalized to talk about it.

You don't have to have every rule/scenario covered in writting. You just have to be able to have on-going, open, honest communication about the subject.

If I charged a different rate for toilet trained versus not trained, Iwould not consider this case a non-trained child.

That is all I got.

[My3cents]

I would say the child is not potty taught. The reason I say this is because if the child only naps for 30 min and is soaked, that tells me the child is holding it until the pull up goes on to pee in the pull up.

When I potty teach children there is no pull up even at rest time. I have had children pee their bed a couple of times, but not after that.

It is a mental thing. If a child knows a pull up is going on, they know how long to hold the pee. I have them go pee before bed and if the bladder is empty, they don't pee the bed.

Laughing my butt off at you ladies....wish I could have been in on the action

but now I will give my cents to this. I don't agree. I think maybe some kids are like that, but I think some children go into such a deep sleep that they don't realize the functions of their body when they are sleeping. The pee when I want mentality has not shut off but actually is still activated because the brain just is just not there yet. I think the self awareness happens after the day time training has been in the works for a while. Some kids pick it up quick and some brains just take longer. I guess I agree with some of what you are saying but not all. Yes, having the child go to the bathroom before nap. Thirty minutes a child can enter a deep sleep and not think about body functions. I also think kids wake up and pee instantly not thinking about it. I know it is the first thing I have to do in the morning. I think they can't wait as long as we can.

I don't charge more for potty training. I feel its part of the job and I also feel it is not about training the child so much as the parents and the caregivers. It is change and goes against simple routine of what we have been doing over and over.

Best-

[My3cents]

I disagree with this.... My son has been PT for a long time and wets the bed at night. He's 4.5 yrs old. He pees before bed time each night and I try no liquids an hour before bed. I think it is more of a physical thing. He sleeps so deep he can't wake himself up to go because pull up or not every night he has an accident...

I agree with this and many children are the same way....

I think it is physical and brain combined. Deep sleep. This is what I was trying to get across and probably the above post. He is in such a deep sleep that his brain won't wake up to signal his body. Many adults have this issue too. Grammy is not the only one buying the depends at the store, grown adults need them too. There is a name for it, can't think of it off the top of my head.

[My3cents]

I agree with you, however you are speaking of a whole night, not half an hour. Lots of children wear a pull up overnight. I was speaking of the idea of soaking a pull up in half an hour. That is what tells me the child is holding it waiting for a pull up.

I wonder if the op takes the child to pee before rest time?

In a half hour the child does have time to fall into a deep sleep. If the child was not potty trained during the day I might buy into this but usually kids get proud of being a big kid and they don't want to regress anymore then we want them too. I am thinking most daycare providers are putting the kids on the toilet before nap time. Some kids can pee a lot too. I have one that I will change her and the next diaper is like a night time diaper. I change often. I think she must have a big bladder.

[Country Kids]

Here I am! ::

I was not laughing AT you but I surely was laughing with you two! LOL!

My 2 cents? You are thinking way too deeply about this. Honestly, there are so many variables in this that you couldn't possibly include every possible scenario in your handbook. Well, I suppose you could but it would be so heavy none of the parents could take home a copy.

I think a child who still wets during nap time but uses the toilet during every other time regularly and without assistance IS potty trained. I would not make the child wear a pull up any other time except nap time. I would make sure the child goes before laying down though.

I have a 5 yr old who hasn't had an accident in 3 full years but will pee every so often during nap time. Usually dependent on how tired she is and how busy our morning was. She wears a pull up....just in case.

Some kids are not developmentally able to wake and pee and wetting during sleep is an issue well into adolesence. Nothing to be too bent out of shape about if it is really only happening during sleep periods.

As far as talking with parents and including such rules in your handbook, it seems to me it would just be much simplier and much more personalized to talk about it.

You don't have to have every rule/scenario covered in writting. You just have to be able to have on-going, open, honest communication about the subject.

If I charged a different rate for toilet trained versus not trained, Iwould not consider this case a non-trained child.

That is all I got.

She pounced! ::

Thank you for helping us out of this overly thought scenerio (I deep think way to much during nap time).

Please don't make us wait so long next time-

[BumbleBee]

He is in such a deep sleep that his brain won't wake up to signal his body. Many adults have this issue too. There is a name for it, can't think of it off the top of my head.

Nocturnal enuresis?

[My3cents]

Here I am! ::

I was not laughing AT you but I surely was laughing with you two! LOL!

My 2 cents? You are thinking way too deeply about this. Honestly, there are so many variables in this that you couldn't possibly include every possible scenario in your handbook. Well, I suppose you could but it would be so heavy none of the parents could take home a copy.

I think a child who still wets during nap time but uses the toilet during every other time regularly and without assistance IS potty trained. I would not make the child wear a pull up any other time except nap time. I would make sure the child goes before laying down though.

I have a 5 yr old who hasn't had an accident in 3 full years but will pee every so often during nap time. Usually dependent on how tired she is and how busy our morning was. She wears a pull up....just in case.

Some kids are not developmentally able to wake and pee and wetting during sleep is an issue well into adolesence. Nothing to be too bent out of shape about if it is really only happening during sleep periods.

As far as talking with parents and including such rules in your handbook, it seems to me it would just be much simplier and much more personalized to talk about it.

You don't have to have every rule/scenario covered in writting. You just have to be able to have on-going, open, honest communication about the subject.

If I charged a different rate for toilet trained versus not trained, Iwould not consider this case a non-trained child.

That is all I got.

love this...... as always you word things very nicely. I wish that I had your talent.