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  • itlw8
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 2199

    #16
    Originally posted by crazydaycarelady
    My good friend has taught me a lot about food in its natural state and that is what I try and go for. For example I think butter (made from milk from a real cow) is a much better alternative than margarine that is one molecule away from plastic and even flies won't lay eggs in it is so foreign.

    That is a big myth from the internet. margarine is made from vegetable oil. not petroleum oil.

    so if you believe that do not eat any corn, soy, peanut, canola, olives or anything they can make oil from.

    by the way I have never seen flys lay eggs in butter either. so do not eat that either.


    by the way your body needs Vitamin D to absorb calcium not fat.....





    Vitamin D
    You need vitamin D to absorb calcium from food. If you are a healthy individual, your skin can make vitamin D when radiation from the sun hits your skin. You also can get vitamin D from food sources such as cod liver oil, fatty fish and fortified foods such as cereal and milk. According to the Linus Pauling Institute Micronutrient Information Center, vitamin D not only improves calcium absorption from food through the small intestine, but also helps your body retain calcium instead of excreting it through the kidneys



    Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/33...xzz23kmuK8Yeit

    Vit D is put in all milk not just Whole milk that for some reason people call Vit D milk.... there is actually MORE calcium in skim milk per volume because the fat has been removed.

    I know I am coming across like a know it all on the subject... sorry. Mother is a dietition and it has been drilled in our heads all our lives.... no you do not need milk but you do need calcium.... milk is just an easy way to get it....
    It:: will wait

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    • Angelsj
      Daycare.com Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 1323

      #17
      Originally posted by Country Kids
      I did talk to mom and she was like "Yuck" when I mentioned the milk we have to serve. They aren't changing as they like their whole milk.

      I do offer child milk, they says yes, but don't like it when I give it to them. They want milk to drink just not what we have to offer.
      Buy whole milk...offer 1%, child doesn't like it, refill with whole.
      Again, food program interfering, but honestly, I believe the parents have more say than the government. If the food program comes and actually happens to ask about that one child, I would tell them the truth. The parents requested whole.

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      • Angelsj
        Daycare.com Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 1323

        #18
        Originally posted by crazydaycarelady
        My family drinks whole milk and that is what I give the kids too and if I could get raw milk that's what we would be having! Also calcium cannot be absorbed into the body without some fat so we get more calcium actually into our bodies by drinking whole.

        My good friend has taught me a lot about food in its natural state and that is what I try and go for. For example I think butter (made from milk from a real cow) is a much better alternative than margarine that is one molecule away from plastic and even flies won't lay eggs in it is so foreign.
        Amen! This needs a like button!

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        • MrsSteinel'sHouse
          Daycare.com Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 1509

          #19
          The food program doesn't override parents. My parents don't want 1% so I do 2% and they write me a note and if they have their peditrician write that it is even better. I also have one on rice milk.

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          • juliebug
            Daycare.com Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 354

            #20
            Originally posted by Blackcat31
            Offer of·fer [aw-fer, of-er] verb (used with object)
            1. to present for acceptance or rejection; proffer: He offered me a cigarette.
            2. to propose or put forward for consideration: to offer a suggestion.
            3. to propose or volunteer (to do something): She offered to accompany me.
            4. to make a show of intention (to do something): We did not offer to go first.
            5. to give, make, or promise: She offered no response.




            I say "Jameson, would you like some milk?"

            Jameson says "No thank you. Can I have water please?"

            I say "Absolutely. Here is your water"

            100% food program compliance. I "offered". He declined.
            That is what i do! happyface I have lots of kids who will not no matter what drink milk! my dd included!

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            • seebachers
              Mostly lurking member
              • Jan 2012
              • 118

              #21
              just have parents bring in the whole milk and be done with it. No cost out of your pocket and the kid and parents are happy. FWIW - milk is gross LOLOLOLL

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              • Crazy8
                Daycare.com Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 2769

                #22
                Originally posted by sharlan
                I refuse to drink 1%, so I refuse to give it to my kids. We drink 2%, and yes, I can tell the difference. My kids are starting to drink more water though.
                same here!

                yet another reason I am glad I am not on the food program, can't believe they dictate that you can only serve 1% milk!! wow. Like I said in another post recently, I technically "get" over $2 per day per child just for serving snacks/milk, no meals to cook and no ridiculous rules to follow.

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                • MarinaVanessa
                  Family Childcare Home
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 7211

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Crazy8
                  same here!

                  yet another reason I am glad I am not on the food program, can't believe they dictate that you can only serve 1% milk!! wow. Like I said in another post recently, I technically "get" over $2 per day per child just for serving snacks/milk, no meals to cook and no ridiculous rules to follow.
                  Wow $2 per day per child? That would ****. This is what I get from the food program:
                  $1.14 for breakfast
                  $2.05 for lunch
                  $0.68 for snacks

                  I serve breakfast, lunch and two snacks so I get $4.55 a day per child. I have 6 DC kids daily so thats a minimum of $27.30 per day, $136.50 per week. That almost covers my entire DC groceries so for me the food program is well worth it.

                  The reason for the 1% milk requirement is because unless the child is under 2 years old they don't need the extra's that vitamin D has. I actually agree with the 1% milk requirement. Chances are most DC kids are filling up on junk food, greasy food and milk while at home which is why the government offers the food program. I have always served healthy meals and initially joined the food program so that when parents brought their kids with cookies, chips, candy and fast food I could say that I couldn't serve it here. Except for the claiming portion of the work I really like our food program now.

                  Like Blackcat said above ... all you have to do is offer it. They don't have to drink it. I do the same. If they don't want 1% milk I offer water. I don't offer anything else. Not even juice. Juice (even natural) has so much sugar in it that I prefer to offer fresh fruit instead. I only serve milk and water, thats it. Even then I only keep milk here because of the DC food requirements. My family doesn't even drink it.

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                  • Heidi
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 7121

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Angelsj
                    Buy whole milk...offer 1%, child doesn't like it, refill with whole.
                    Again, food program interfering, but honestly, I believe the parents have more say than the government. If the food program comes and actually happens to ask about that one child, I would tell them the truth. The parents requested whole.
                    Yeah, that won't fly here. Unless there is a doctor's note, you feed them the requirements, or you don't claim it. Why?

                    Because telling the truth about breaking a rule will get you kicked off the food program. When you get kicked of the food program...

                    they report it to licensing....

                    who pulls your license for failure to follow all applicable laws and regulations...

                    Kind of like "if you give a mouse a cookie"

                    So, if you want to give him whole milk, and his parents want you to give him whole milk, then get a diet statement from the doctor. Otherwise, do as BlackCat suggested. Ask him...he says' no, you offered it.

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                    • DCBlessings27
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 332

                      #25
                      Originally posted by MarinaVanessa
                      Wow $2 per day per child? That would ****. This is what I get from the food program:
                      $1.14 for breakfast
                      $2.05 for lunch
                      $0.68 for snacks

                      I serve breakfast, lunch and two snacks so I get $4.55 a day per child. I have 6 DC kids daily so thats a minimum of $27.30 per day, $136.50 per week. That almost covers my entire DC groceries so for me the food program is well worth it.

                      The reason for the 1% milk requirement is because unless the child is under 2 years old they don't need the extra's that vitamin D has. I actually agree with the 1% milk requirement. Chances are most DC kids are filling up on junk food, greasy food and milk while at home which is why the government offers the food program. I have always served healthy meals and initially joined the food program so that when parents brought their kids with cookies, chips, candy and fast food I could say that I couldn't serve it here. Except for the claiming portion of the work I really like our food program now.

                      Like Blackcat said above ... all you have to do is offer it. They don't have to drink it. I do the same. If they don't want 1% milk I offer water. I don't offer anything else. Not even juice. Juice (even natural) has so much sugar in it that I prefer to offer fresh fruit instead. I only serve milk and water, thats it. Even then I only keep milk here because of the DC food requirements. My family doesn't even drink it.
                      I'm confused. I thought that the rates were the same for the 48 continental states. I get reimbursed more than what MarinaVanessa says hers are.

                      Breakfast 1.24
                      Lunch 2.32
                      Snack .69

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                      • Heidi
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 7121

                        #26
                        Originally posted by katieica
                        I'm confused. I thought that the rates were the same for the 48 continental states. I get reimbursed more than what MarinaVanessa says hers are.

                        Breakfast 1.24
                        Lunch 2.32
                        Snack .69
                        mine are the same here....

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                        • MarinaVanessa
                          Family Childcare Home
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 7211

                          #27
                          Oh I'm sorry I grabbed the old rate sheet. You are right. The sheet I grabbed was from 2007 ::. I'm used to just getting the checks and depositing them .

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                          • Crazy8
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 2769

                            #28
                            Originally posted by MarinaVanessa
                            Wow $2 per day per child? That would ****. This is what I get from the food program:
                            $1.14 for breakfast
                            $2.05 for lunch
                            $0.68 for snacks

                            I serve breakfast, lunch and two snacks so I get $4.55 a day per child. I have 6 DC kids daily so thats a minimum of $27.30 per day, $136.50 per week. That almost covers my entire DC groceries so for me the food program is well worth it.

                            The reason for the 1% milk requirement is because unless the child is under 2 years old they don't need the extra's that vitamin D has. I actually agree with the 1% milk requirement. Chances are most DC kids are filling up on junk food, greasy food and milk while at home which is why the government offers the food program. I have always served healthy meals and initially joined the food program so that when parents brought their kids with cookies, chips, candy and fast food I could say that I couldn't serve it here. Except for the claiming portion of the work I really like our food program now.

                            Like Blackcat said above ... all you have to do is offer it. They don't have to drink it. I do the same. If they don't want 1% milk I offer water. I don't offer anything else. Not even juice. Juice (even natural) has so much sugar in it that I prefer to offer fresh fruit instead. I only serve milk and water, thats it. Even then I only keep milk here because of the DC food requirements. My family doesn't even drink it.
                            I think you misunderstand... I get $2 and do not serve meals - the standard tax cedit for this year is 69 cents per snack - not sure what it is for lunch since i am on my phone and cant pull it up as easily but i am guessing it is close to the amount the food program gives. I just dont see the point in dealing with the crazy rules of the food program if the standard deduction is close in rate. More headache than its worth to me.

                            I hate the constant bashing of parents feeding their kids junk - my kids and all but a few of my dcks over the years eat healthy but we choose to drink 2% milk, i do not feel it is anyones right to tell me i have to give them 1%.

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                            • itlw8
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 2199

                              #29
                              The standard deduction IS the amount that is paid for the food program. That is how it is set. but I am confused HOW do you get $2 a day for nor feeding them The parents pay an extra $2 a day for snacks?
                              It:: will wait

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                              • SilverSabre25
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 7585

                                #30
                                Originally posted by itlw8
                                The standard deduction IS the amount that is paid for the food program. That is how it is set. but I am confused HOW do you get $2 a day for nor feeding them The parents pay an extra $2 a day for snacks?
                                Nope, I'm pretty sure food program amounts are different that the standard deduction you can take on your taxes at the end of the year. That's what Crazy8 is referring to. The food program amounts differ based on whether you get Tier 1 or Tier 2 and you h ave to only serve according to their guidelines,can only claim certain meals, etc. The standard deduction on your taxes is the same no matter what, they don't care what you fed the kids and you can claim as many snacks and meals as you actually serve instead of the 1 meal/2 snacks or 2 meals/1 snack per the food program.
                                Hee hee! Look, I have a signature!

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