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  • DBug
    Daycare Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 934

    Ratio + Extra Kid?

    I have a hypothetical question (that may not be so hypothetical come the summer). For my ratios, I'm allowed to have 5 dc kids, any age, in addition to my own (I have 1 toddler, and 2 school-aged). If we were to have a 4 year old child stay over during the summer for, say, a week, would that child count as my own, or would I have to include her in my ratios? What would you do?
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  • kimsdaycare
    Daycare.com Member
    • May 2010
    • 118

    #2
    Here, that child would count until they turned 12. My kids couldn't invite friends over for years because all their friends counted in my numbers. We do have a loophole for "family", but it wasn't a guarantee than licensing wouldn't have and issue with it. Even if I had space, I'd still need paperwork. I avoided any extras ever because it just wasn't worth the stress and hassle. Wish I had a better answer for you!

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    • boysx5
      Daycare.com Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 681

      #3
      yes here they count as well until they are 13 which is a bit crazy and your own kids count until their six

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      • Liliya
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 156

        #4
        Originally posted by DBug
        I have a hypothetical question (that may not be so hypothetical come the summer). For my ratios, I'm allowed to have 5 dc kids, any age, in addition to my own (I have 1 toddler, and 2 school-aged). If we were to have a 4 year old child stay over during the summer for, say, a week, would that child count as my own, or would I have to include her in my ratios? What would you do?
        But,if you have a 4 year old,you are still in your ratio.
        You have 1 toddler,2 school-aged with your visitor it will make 4,or you plan to get more kids??? sorry I am confused.
        In my state you would need papers for that child,application,imunization...
        Just like for any child in your care.

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        • mac60
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • May 2008
          • 1610

          #5
          It is your private family life, not getting paid for it. I wouldn't worry about it. You shouldn't have to deprive your own family. Really, if the kids cousin wants to come and stay for a few days, whos business is it anyways.

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          • momofboys
            Advanced Daycare Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 2560

            #6
            Originally posted by DBug
            I have a hypothetical question (that may not be so hypothetical come the summer). For my ratios, I'm allowed to have 5 dc kids, any age, in addition to my own (I have 1 toddler, and 2 school-aged). If we were to have a 4 year old child stay over during the summer for, say, a week, would that child count as my own, or would I have to include her in my ratios? What would you do?
            I don't know how many DC kids you have but really if it is only for a week I would not stress about it. In my state, children who are school age do not count in the ratios.

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            • originalkat
              Daycare.com Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 1392

              #7
              If it was only for a week I would not worry about it either.

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              • Childminder
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 1500

                #8
                In Mi I am licensed for 6 unrelated children. My 1/2 cousins daughters son comes every summer and does not count in my ratios.
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                • emosks
                  Daycare Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 289

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Childminder
                  In Mi I am licensed for 6 unrelated children. My 1/2 cousins daughters son comes every summer and does not count in my ratios.
                  We can have 12 kids max and our own count in our ratios. We are in MI as well. When my niece came to visit over spring break we asked our consultant and she said we didn't need the paperwork filled out but my niece still counted in our ratios for the days that she was there. We didn't want to take the chance that we could get a visit as we were just approved and knew we could have a surprise inspection at any time.

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                  • mismatchedsocks
                    Advanced Daycare.com Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 677

                    #10
                    I was told that my kids can have friends over, but they would have to have their parents come get them, or go home, if something happened. Sounds like they would be staying the whole week, so that wouldnt matter, but I do allow my kids to have friends over, but asked before that happened.

                    Is it family? Or are you just watching a daycare families child for a week? I would think that the 4 year old WOULD count in the numbers, unless there is the related law in your state as mentioned above.

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                    • Greenshadow
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 238

                      #11
                      When I was licensed, the kids that were friends with my kids counted in my ratios if they fit the age guidelines for ratios. So I had to be careful how many kids were in my house at one time. I am not licensed now. If I were you, I wouldnt worry about having one over for a short time. Licensing might. But thats the risk you take.

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                      • DBug
                        Daycare Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 934

                        #12
                        It's kind of an odd situation ... we regularly take the 4 year old daughter of a friend, who is a young single mom, for weekends, usually every other weekend or so. I'm not paid for it, and it's not daycare, just a friend's child visiting for the weekend. So, she's not family, but we treat her like she is.

                        And yeah, I have 3 of my own kids, with 5 daycare kids most days (which is my max). I'm not licensed, so I won't have surprise visits , but by law I'm still supposed to stay in my ratio. I do let my kids have friends in for "playdates", but since my oldest two are 8 & 10, they don't really require much supervision. And, generally the friends are here for a couple hours, not the whole day.

                        If she WAS family, I'd be inclined to go ahead and not worry about it. But since she's not ... well, I wouldn't want to create problems if I didn't need to. Still, I'd like to be available to help out this mom when/if she needs it ... She's been dealt a very, very raw hand in life, and I try to help whenever I can.
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                        • QualiTcare
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 1502

                          #13
                          if you aren't licensed, i wouldn't worry about it. you won't be getting any visits. just tell your older kids if a strange person pulls in the driveway or knocks on the door....go hide in the bushes until further notice.

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                          • actaktmdt
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 140

                            #14
                            Didn't read the post but in mi if the childs older than 7 then that related child does not count in the ratio. If under 7 then they do count.

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                            • Childminder
                              Advanced Daycare.com Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 1500

                              #15
                              Originally posted by actaktmdt
                              Didn't read the post but in mi if the childs older than 7 then that related child does not count in the ratio. If under 7 then they do count.
                              Yeah, he's older than seven.
                              I see little people.

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