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  • Mommy2One
    Daycare.com Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 119

    #16
    Originally posted by DBug

    His parents were incredibly embarrassed too. Maybe these dcp's will be as well? Perhaps you could suggest that you each pay half for damages?
    As a parent, I wouldn't find this fair. Don't get me wrong, I'd feel bad it happened, I'd feel bad my child was involved, I'd be sympathetic and hope that insurance covered it, etc. but I wouldn't feel it was my responsibility to pay half of the costs. It would be different if my family was visiting a friend, where I was responsible for my daughter and something happened to their home because I wasn't being diligent enough. In that case I'd probably offer to pay all or part of the costs or correct the damages in some fashion. But daycare is different because I'm paying the provider to be the responsible individual in my absence. If my daughter were old/responsible enough to be held accountable then she wouldn't need to be at a daycare to begin with. I would consider making sure the water was shut off after a bathroom visit to be part of the services just like preventing the kids from throwing toys or coloring on the walls.

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    • MissAnn
      Preschool Teacher
      • Jan 2011
      • 2213

      #17
      Originally posted by Heidi
      Like this one?




      I've been thinking about something, because the dck's just run and run that water, and it's going into the septic and running the pump.
      Exactly this...I love it! There is a button you can press that makes the water run continuously....the daycare kids know NOT to touch it!

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      • MissAnn
        Preschool Teacher
        • Jan 2011
        • 2213

        #18
        Originally posted by Mommy2One
        As a parent, I wouldn't find this fair. Don't get me wrong, I'd feel bad it happened, I'd feel bad my child was involved, I'd be sympathetic and hope that insurance covered it, etc. but I wouldn't feel it was my responsibility to pay half of the costs. It would be different if my family was visiting a friend, where I was responsible for my daughter and something happened to their home because I wasn't being diligent enough. In that case I'd probably offer to pay all or part of the costs or correct the damages in some fashion. But daycare is different because I'm paying the provider to be the responsible individual in my absence. If my daughter were old/responsible enough to be held accountable then she wouldn't need to be at a daycare to begin with. I would consider making sure the water was shut off after a bathroom visit to be part of the services just like preventing the kids from throwing toys or coloring on the walls.
        I have it in my policies...if a child damages toys or my house, parents are responsible.

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        • daycarediva
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 11698

          #19
          Originally posted by MissAnn
          I have it in my policies...if a child damages toys or my house, parents are responsible.
          mine too, and the parents have to sign saying that they agree to it-even if it was accidental- and because of something just like this.

          We JUST refinished our basement, and dcg was brand new at the time, left the bathroom, didn't say a word, and then water starting coming down the hallway. I had to replace the hardwood flooring in the hallway and it caused significant damage downstairs. She overflowed the toilet (she tried to flush the plum she didn't want for snack!)

          I now have a toilet that flushes a bucket of golfballs. Take that kids!

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          • Former Teacher
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 1331

            #20
            Originally posted by Mommy2One
            As a parent, I wouldn't find this fair. Don't get me wrong, I'd feel bad it happened, I'd feel bad my child was involved, I'd be sympathetic and hope that insurance covered it, etc. but I wouldn't feel it was my responsibility to pay half of the costs. It would be different if my family was visiting a friend, where I was responsible for my daughter and something happened to their home because I wasn't being diligent enough. In that case I'd probably offer to pay all or part of the costs or correct the damages in some fashion. But daycare is different because I'm paying the provider to be the responsible individual in my absence. If my daughter were old/responsible enough to be held accountable then she wouldn't need to be at a daycare to begin with. I would consider making sure the water was shut off after a bathroom visit to be part of the services just like preventing the kids from throwing toys or coloring on the walls.
            I agree. If it was intentional, done with meanness etc, I could understand why. However, being that the provider wasn't within sight/sound distance, I would have a hard time justifying paying for any damage. Whether it is in the policies or not.

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            • EchoMom
              Daycare.com Member
              • May 2012
              • 729

              #21
              Originally posted by Former Teacher
              I agree. If it was intentional, done with meanness etc, I could understand why. However, being that the provider wasn't within sight/sound distance, I would have a hard time justifying paying for any damage. Whether it is in the policies or not.
              I was within sight/sound. I was in the kitchen making breakfast, he was just around the corner going to the bathroom in the hall bathroom. He's 5 years old and starting Kindergarten in 2 weeks, I didn't think I needed to check on him after he went everytime, apparently now I do. I knew he went to the bathroom, I didn't know the water was running. Yes it was an accident and no I wouldn't ask the parents to pay for it, my point was that it just was a huge bummer!!!

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              • saved4always
                Daycare.com Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 1019

                #22
                That is a huge bummer. I am so sorry that this happened to you. I hope that the damage isn't too bad. Definitely do whatever you can to get any drywall dry before you get mold. My best friend's sump pump failed a few weeks ago and their basement flooded. They were told that they needed to get the drywall dry within a few days (can't remember the exact number of days but it was low, like 3 or 4) to keep mold from growing. She had dehumidifiers, fans, etc. all over the basement. I think they were okay after doing that.

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                • Crazy8
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 2769

                  #23
                  Originally posted by glenechogirl
                  I was within sight/sound. I was in the kitchen making breakfast, he was just around the corner going to the bathroom in the hall bathroom. He's 5 years old and starting Kindergarten in 2 weeks, I didn't think I needed to check on him after he went everytime, apparently now I do. I knew he went to the bathroom, I didn't know the water was running. Yes it was an accident and no I wouldn't ask the parents to pay for it, my point was that it just was a huge bummer!!!
                  I agree with you - I would let a 5 year old use the bathroom by themselves too. I can't believe everyone is saying you need to supervise them using the toilet???

                  Hope your insurance covers the damage!!!!

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                  • Former Teacher
                    Advanced Daycare.com Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 1331

                    #24
                    Originally posted by glenechogirl
                    Yes it was an accident, I'm not mad at him because yes he's 5 and forgetful and clumsy sometimes but really the sweetest boy you've ever met! He went to the bathroom sometime between 7:30am (his drop off time) and 10:30am when we were outside and SA girl (my 9 year old niece, so yes she goes to the bathroom and inside by herself and is very much my unofficial helper during the summertime). I didn't even know he'd gone to the bathroom since he's old enough to take care of himself he doesn't need to tell me. I was in the kitchen making breakfast and he went to the bathroom which is just around the corner. I never heard the water running. I didn't even think to check, I did diaper changes in the nap room and we all went outside. When we were outside my niece went in to bring me swim diapers and when she came back she told me what she saw.

                    Oh man. The downstairs bathroom ceiling is bubbled with water and it's all down the walls and floors and came through light fixture!
                    Originally posted by glenechogirl
                    I was within sight/sound. I was in the kitchen making breakfast, he was just around the corner going to the bathroom in the hall bathroom. He's 5 years old and starting Kindergarten in 2 weeks, I didn't think I needed to check on him after he went everytime, apparently now I do. I knew he went to the bathroom, I didn't know the water was running. Yes it was an accident and no I wouldn't ask the parents to pay for it, my point was that it just was a huge bummer!!!

                    The bolded part in the first quote was why I thought you weren't within sight/sound. On the flipside I am glad you aren't going to charge the parents

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                    • Unregistered

                      #25
                      Totally understand. I let one of my 5 year old dcb use bathroom alone because state regs say, if they are able to use restroom alone, then we are suppose to allow them. I check when their finished, insuring tolet flushed, and no running water, then we wash hands. All was well, then childs d/c parent used the bathroom right afterwards they hurried out the door, and a wave of water followed down the hall. Water was at least an inch deep and tolet was a fountain of water. I hurried and turned off valve. But the damage was done. I had just had my whole house redone in laminate wood flooring. My assistant and I used every clean and dirty towel in the house soaking up water. Needless to say the hall had to be replaced, this time with tile. I still need to fix a few boards of laminate in my bedroom. When I say wave of water, thats what it was. I text the parent after clean up who of course said, the tolet flushed fine. We now have a no flush policy. Only me and my assistant are allowed to flush the tolet after use. Im sorry you went through that, but I totally


                      understand. My damage was over 1,000 with new tile, labor,

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                      • Scout
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 1774

                        #26
                        Originally posted by DBug
                        Did he do it on purpose? Or was it an accident? Because I'd totally base my response on that.

                        we had brown water running down the walls of the main floor, down into hubby's computer cave in the basement, right onto his computer
                        Please don't think I'm horrible but, this really did make me laugh! The thought of your DH's face!:: Sorry this happenend though!
                        Last edited by Blackcat31; 07-08-2013, 12:26 PM. Reason: fixed quote

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                        • nannyde
                          All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 7320

                          #27
                          I don't trust any kid with my plumbing. I have never allowed a kid to use the bathroom without direct supervision. I also don't allow them to flush or turn on or off the water. It's too risky. What has happened to you in one day isn't worth twenty years of constant supervision when they are in or around my plumbing. Do the little it takes every day to protect your property to not have to do the one day that causes thousands of dollars of damage and high stress until everything is the way it was before he went into the bathroom this morning.
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                          • MarinaVanessa
                            Family Childcare Home
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 7211

                            #28
                            My house has been flooded twice by the same DCB (my nephew) and once by a DCG. I have a rule that no one flushes the toilet here except me. I have doorknob covers on the bathroom door and the kids all have to tell me that they are going in to use the bathroom. Once they are done they can wash their hands on their own (if they're old enough) but then they have to tell me when they are done and I check the bathroom.

                            PLENTY of times I've walked into the bathroom and there was so much wadded up toilet paper in there that there was no way that you could flush the toilet so I've had to glove up and scoop out the dirty paper and bag it. I'm so glad I have that rule.

                            Oh and 3 weeks ago my mom was using the upstairs bathroom to brush her teeth and forgot to shut the water off. It's a quiet stream of water and the sink has a slow drain so the water collected in the bathroom and crept out through the door. Once out of the door it leaked through the ceiling through the light fixtures and onto the microwave and stove and then onto the floor. Not much we could do except air everything out and fan it dry after soaking up the water but MAN, what an adventure.

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