Parents Refusing To Bring Diapers

[My3cents]

I think you may have just missed the part that she just termed another family over not following the policies and still has to replace them, losing this family on top of other family that she just terminated will put her into a financial hardship. She doesn't want to put up with them but needs their income and can't afford to lose them. I know that I wouldn't put up with this either but if terming a family meant that I would get behind on my bills, mortgage etc. then I would bite my tongue until I could first find a replacement and then I would terminate them vs possibly losing my home and then my business as well KWIM?

I did miss that part- thank you

I think you should still stick to your guns and if they don't want to bring diapers, bill them. It is a health issue- Up your rate and provide them yourself.

Advertise like crazy!!!!!

I do understand- but again at some point enough is enough. Hang in there

[youretooloud]

I would tell them that I need them to go cold turkey starting Saturday. If they are truly ready, they will be trained in two or three days. So, cold turkey at home, then by Tuesday, they should be potty trained.

I would buy a pack of plastic pants, and if you have a children's consignment store, you can buy some thick training pants to put under the plastic pants.

Require thick shorts or skorts if they are girls. (I love the skorts for training, because there's more fabric) and extra training pants. I've even added an absorbant liner to shorts before so they had extra protection.

http://www.etsy.com/listing/92773461/upcycled-training-pants-lavender-velour?utm_source=toolsforetsybuyersse&utm_medium=api&utm_campaign=api

http://www.etsy.com/listing/82059065/upcycled-training-pants-boxer-shorts

These are just ideas for old boys or girls shorts. I can't really sew very well, but, this basic idea actually works pretty well over underpants.

[WImom]

I'd almost be tempted buy pull ups and put them over the child's pants. That way the parents still have to wash all the extra clothing but your floors are clean. You'd also have a valid reason that they are not potty trained when all week they are getting sent home wet clothes. They may get sick of all the laundry as well and go back to diapers.

[My3cents]

Thank you ladies for all of the support, ideas, and encouragement. I am going to **** it up and do whatever I have to do- plastic pants and pull ups at my own expense if I have to, until I can replace these 2 if they are not potty trained by next week. If that doesn't work then I hope my advertising strategy will come through.

Marina-I'm going to check out that website ASAP! Thank you for sharing!

This is the big potty training weekend for this family, so hey, maybe all of my concerns will be in vain and they will come magically trained by next week. I have a fear though that they aren't going to do much and then just expect me to take the training wheels off and do it for them. I've caught this family in small lies (more like omissions) about illness, etc before.

My3Cents- On any other occasion, I would stand my ground, but I just termed a constantly sick boy for breaking my policy and if I lose these two kids too I will literally lose my car, my home, and everything else I have worked so hard for. It will be over $2,100 a month in income lost between the kid I termed and potentially terming these 2 so I just can't. (right now anyway) All I need is 1 replacement and I can scrape by, but missing the income from 3 kids would devastate my family

Again, I do understand- I think if I were you, I would just up my rate with them and buy diapers. I am taking it that they are no way near ready to be potty trained??? You have an idea when kids are ready- Advertise up a storm and things will turn around for you. Demand to be respected- you got it in you. Remind me when I fall too:-) Thanks to many here who have helped me shape my back bone- My thoughts to you are- do what you have to do until you can replace them.

[Heidi]

I'd almost be tempted buy pull ups and put them over the child's pants. That way the parents still have to wash all the extra clothing but your floors are clean. You'd also have a valid reason that they are not potty trained when all week they are getting sent home wet clothes. They may get sick of all the laundry as well and go back to diapers.

yep!

[SunnyDay]

yep!

This was my thought as well. There are store brand pull-ups that aren't too ridiculously priced. It would definitely be better than losing income that you need. Good luck!

[SunshineMama]

Thanks everyone! I now have a plan and feel a bit more in control of the situation, even if I have to swallow my pride temporairly.

I am still reasonably annoyed by this entire situation but having a plan of action to take back control is easing my stress level!

[Heidi]

I had a kiddo years ago who had ALOT of behavioral stuff

When his mom walked in one day (he was 22 months) and said she felt he was ready, I said "OMG she's kidding!" She claimed that at home, he ran around in just unders and was fine. uh...sure....

I reluctantly agreed to try it for one week, but if there were tons of accidents, she'd buy pullups.

He NEVER had an accident! Not once!

Maybe that'll happen for you....

[SunshineMama]

I had a kiddo years ago who had ALOT of behavioral stuff

When his mom walked in one day (he was 22 months) and said she felt he was ready, I said "OMG she's kidding!" She claimed that at home, he ran around in just unders and was fine. uh...sure....

I reluctantly agreed to try it for one week, but if there were tons of accidents, she'd buy pullups.

He NEVER had an accident! Not once!

Maybe that'll happen for you....

Fingers crossed! Did that child ask you to use the potty or did you have to take them at regular intervals?

[littlemisssunshine]

I think we all understand that under these curcumstances when you're pretty much forced to do something that's against your grain and so you will be at least a little bitter, but don't let it beat you. Just remember that it'll only be temporary and as soon as you get a few new clients then you can say buh-bye to them "and don't let the door kit you in the @$$ on your way out". Think about how even though right now you have to put up with it you do have something to look forward to later ... handing them their 2 week termination notice.

love this hahah im putting up with a dcm that i can no longer stand BUT i am waiting for that moment when i get a new DCK oh how sweet giving her 2 weeks notice will feel

[cheerfuldom]

I would tell them that I need them to go cold turkey starting Saturday. If they are truly ready, they will be trained in two or three days. So, cold turkey at home, then by Tuesday, they should be potty trained.

I would buy a pack of plastic pants, and if you have a children's consignment store, you can buy some thick training pants to put under the plastic pants.

Require thick shorts or skorts if they are girls. (I love the skorts for training, because there's more fabric) and extra training pants. I've even added an absorbant liner to shorts before so they had extra protection.

http://www.etsy.com/listing/92773461/upcycled-training-pants-lavender-velour?utm_source=toolsforetsybuyersse&utm_medium=api&utm_campaign=api

http://www.etsy.com/listing/82059065/upcycled-training-pants-boxer-shorts

These are just ideas for old boys or girls shorts. I can't really sew very well, but, this basic idea actually works pretty well over underpants.

yeah well since they conveniently dont want to start training till Tues. aka after the holiday, you know they arent doing anything at home. they have the OP cornered and they know it. It wouldnt surprise if they know about this other boy being termed and figure that the OP wont want to lose them right now.

[Doodlebug]

I understand your situation

I lost my first post so I hope this doesn't post twice.

I've had parents that have felt this way and sometimes you have to let them know you are willing to give their suggestion a try but since they have a need to be met so do you. Because you are licensed there are certain criteria that needs to be met. Health and safety of the other children are a concern. There is the supervision factor, when you are potty training another child it takes extra time away from the other children so that has to be adjusted. Then there is the health concerns of the other children when dealing with accidents. Everything has to be cleaned up.

So! I've told them they need to go cold turkey at home for three days to help prep the children for your three days of cold turkey. That means the car trip, shopping trips, everything... no diapers on their part. They need to report back to you their success and of course the parents suggestions for their child's success (doesn't mean you need to do that). While they are doing their underwear days, (which should be Friday, Saturday, and Sunday on their part). Then you can do Monday thru Wednesday, while they can still use no diapers. It is a transition period tell them.

Then have them sign the poop and pee contract (extra beyond their tuition contract), that they agree to pay for all professional cleaning of your carpets due to excessive potty accidents until their child is completely trained. I also bag up all messes and send them home. Bags hang outside because I don't want my house smelling like poop. Tell them it is all about success so their children will not be reprimanded for accidents. You need to have at least 5 changes of clothes per child per day there.

I would also be looking for a new family to replace them. They definitely do not respect you and you deserve their respect. Good Luck, I hope this works out for you.

[Abigail]

I'm in a bit of a predicament.

I asked dcp's 2 days ago to bring more diapers and wipes. Yesterday- nothing. Today, dcd tells me they will no longer be purchasing diapers and they will be bringing their twins in underwear as of next Tuesday, and we will be using pull ups.
I previously agreed to trying the underwear as an experiment to see if they would be responsive, but I intend on having a back up for nap time, etc to see if it doesn't work.

These children have never gone a full day without an accident. They were doh g okay with telling me they had to potty for a while, then regressed for some reason and rarely tell me. They can't even keep their diapers dry for 1.5 hora at a time. Dcd stated the children ate just being lazy and choosing to use diapers. Dcm says that she doesn't think they are able to recognize when they have to go. Both dcp's have decided they just are going cold turkey ubderwear only after Monday.

I have a phb that says they must tell me for 2 weeks without accidents before coming in underwear.

Clearly, you can tell that this is not going to turn out well for me. The parents are just pushing something that is only setting up everyone to fail.

I have 2 options: put up with the pee and poop all over my house, or get termed by this family. I suggested plastic underwear over the regular and hard had no response. The problem is that I just termed another family for breaking my rules and I need the income. I have interviews coming up to replace dcb I just termed but nothing solid yet.

What should I do? My dcp's all decided to take advantage of me all at once

You just said it. Don't try to find a solution, but tell them AGAIN in the morning and also send a short letter home as proof of a reminder that they need diapers. To make your letter more in length without fluff, just copy/paste the section from the handbook as your reference. Simply add at the end of the letter that if they arrive without diapers that they can go with you to the store in the morning. LOL....ok I guess I don't say that but after telling the parents 3 days in a row they always remember.

Keep in mind that you've been focusing on this ALL DAY and are starting to over think things. Just simply tell them again you need diapers. The twins must be two weeks accident free while in diapers prior to changing to underwear. If they choose to provide (make sure to say provide instead of use so they understand they have to buy them!) pull-ups that is fine, but diapers are cheaper.

[renodeb]

Your situation reminds me of a simular situation I had with my dck who is almost 4 now. When he turned 3 mom decides no more diapers for him its underware all the way. (keep in mind that I already know how this will turn out). First day he comes in undies he pees with it minutes. I send him home in a pullup. Second day in undies he pees before I can get the pullup on. Oh he was pooping his pants to (gross). I finally get to talk to Dad (they are divorsed) and he and I agree that he is not near ready for underware and on his days he is brought in pullups when dad had pullups. All the while mom insists on underware and to just send home the soiled ones with her. Her theory is that the pullups will cause him to have a set back. Well months and months go by and no progress so I went out and bought a pack of pullups myself and as soon as he is through the door I have him change. I could tell mom was not happy but she keeps bringing him. It has only been in the last 2 months that he has made that finaly leap with not going in his undies. Oh and btw all the while mom and dad say he never has accidents at home and cant understand why he is at my place. Bottom line is that you need to do what is best for you and your dc. Hopefully that does not include terming him or them terming you! I would put them in a pullup right away until they make good progress. Funny though, to me pullups are really just diapers that you can pull up so they real arent cutting anything out! good luck.
Debbie