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  • SunshineMama
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 1575

    #16
    Originally posted by Heidi
    as for the "coffee grounds" thing, any chance he was playing in a sandbox and ate sand? A few of mine have done that on occasion, and that is exactly how I would describe their bm's
    I have not seen it personally- this is what the mother said to me today at drop off, "He still is not having normal BM's, (then something about a coffee ground consistency), and we are not giving him milk, bananas, or peaches."

    I am concerned about what unregistered posted about it possibly being old blood! The child has not had a BM here today yet.

    The dad just text me back and said he will make the payment today as usual.

    I'm sick of these games and so ready to be done. hank goodness I will have a vacation right afterwards- I need a long break from all of this! I just hope and pray no one in my family gets sick!

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    • cheerfuldom
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 7413

      #17
      Originally posted by SunshineMama
      I do not have a form that they sign that lists reasons. I wish I did. Another thing I will be incorporating into my PHB, thanks to this family. I just text them and said that his payment did not come through as usual, and would they like to try again or bring cash/check at pick up? I then gave them a brief update on their child (said he has not had any BM's yet and is currently happy).

      No response. I wanted to have my request in writing and will print out the entire conversation.

      I can definitely see these parent trying to pull a fast one and then reporting for goodness knows what- they come across as very passive aggressive, with the de-friending, not paying, and then telling me that he still is not having normal stools.

      How do I protect myself in the event that they try to file a false claim? I have nothing to hide and I follow licensing guidelines even though I am not licensed, and I am a very loving, good provider.
      Call your licensor now and give them a heads up on this family and the fact that they may file a claim shortly as you are trying to end things amicably but they are getting very passive aggressive.

      do you not have something in your contract that says "no pay, no stay". Otherwise they may end up getting a few day out of you and then leaving with no two weeks pay.

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      • SunshineMama
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 1575

        #18
        Originally posted by cheerfuldom
        Call your licensor now and give them a heads up on this family and the fact that they may file a claim shortly as you are trying to end things amicably but they are getting very passive aggressive.

        do you not have something in your contract that says "no pay, no stay". Otherwise they may end up getting a few day out of you and then leaving with no two weeks pay.
        I am legally unlicensed so unfortunately I do not have a licensor to call. DCD finally responded and said he would pay- so now I am just waiting for the child's first BM of the day and hoping it is not diaharrea or anything serious.

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        • Blackcat31
          • Oct 2010
          • 36124

          #19
          Originally posted by SunshineMama
          How do I protect myself in the event that they try to file a false claim? I have nothing to hide and I follow licensing guidelines even though I am not licensed, and I am a very loving, good provider.
          You need to make sure you have everything documented. I would also print up a quick form stating that services were terminated on *** date for "whatever" reason you used, not a good fit, not able to provide the care child needs....etc. Have the parents sign and date it and I think the simple fact that they are still bringing the child during the last two weeks says that they are NOT concerned about any safety issues or other "reportable" things....kwim?

          I would also make sure you charge them the late fee for late payment and have them sign/date the receipt as final payment.

          The more documentation you have the better protected you are.

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          • momma2girls
            Daycare.com Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 2283

            #20
            If you are used to receiving payment on Mon. am, and it is not there. I would be worried. If payment not made tonight, no pay , no stay for the rest of the week!!

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            • SunshineMama
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 1575

              #21
              Originally posted by Blackcat31
              You need to make sure you have everything documented. I would also print up a quick form stating that services were terminated on *** date for "whatever" reason you used, not a good fit, not able to provide the care child needs....etc. Have the parents sign and date it and I think the simple fact that they are still bringing the child during the last two weeks says that they are NOT concerned about any safety issues or other "reportable" things....kwim?

              I would also make sure you charge them the late fee for late payment and have them sign/date the receipt as final payment.

              The more documentation you have the better protected you are.
              Excellent point! They are aware of the 2 week notice and are still bringing him so you are right, obviously they know his care is not compromised!

              I will definitely have them sign a copy of the letter I gave them as well!

              Thanks for the great advice!

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              • meganlavonnesmommy
                Daycare.com Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 344

                #22
                I know its not your business, but why would they not give him bananas? THat is one of the foods you are SUPPOSED to give kids when they have diarrhea!

                I can see staying away from milk, but not bananas.

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                • Sugar Magnolia
                  Blossoms Blooming
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 2647

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Zoe
                  And they didn't pay! Call that parent NOW and send the child home. For good.
                  Ditto! Wow. Unreal.

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                  • Unregistered

                    #24
                    my thoughts to you-

                    registered logged out-

                    I feel your being passive aggressive. You have every excuse going to keep this sick non paying child.

                    For the record, I often find myself put in a passive aggressive situation- often the nature of the game. I am getting better with backbone and this forum.

                    At pick up- tell the father, payment is late, and you brought your child sick today yet again. I needed a doctor's note and as of this minute my services to you are terminated. You have until ___________ to pay me for the two weeks notice. Say this after he pays you. Do not let there be any opening for further discussion. Just nod your head and repeat if you have to but enough is enough here.

                    I know your trying to come from a place of kindness and have been but enough is enough- move on. The child needs to see a Dr. and you need to be paid for your services and respected. I would have thought they would have been done after you gave them the two week notice. People have a nerve-

                    Best-

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                    • SunshineMama
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 1575

                      #25
                      Originally posted by meganlavonnesmommy
                      I know its not your business, but why would they not give him bananas? THat is one of the foods you are SUPPOSED to give kids when they have diarrhea!

                      I can see staying away from milk, but not bananas.
                      I know! My ped recommends the BRAT diet (Bananas, Rice, Applesauce, and Toast) anytime there is any sort or stomach issue.

                      They *think* bananas are causing the diaharrea. Last week it was yogurt that caused it, then teething, according to them. Like I said, they are not consulting a doctor to my knowledge, and they keep self-diagnosing some benign cause because they cannot accept that his immune system has been compromised by a bug.

                      On a side note: An update: DCD said he would send the payment today and still has not sent it. I think he is on a power trip and feels the need to exert control over the situation because he's upset I gave them notice. They better have it to me today or they are going to be met with their items at the door tomorrow morning and an immediate term notice for non-payment.

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                      • SunshineMama
                        Advanced Daycare.com Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 1575

                        #26
                        UGH they are really annoying me now! VENT!

                        DCD just showed up in casual clothes at naptime to pick him up, without telling me he was coming early at all (they always let me know when they are coming). I'm sure he wanted to "spy" on me or something... So apparently now they don't trust me? Geeze wow, am I going to have to go through this for the next two weeks? If you don't trust me with your child then don't bring him back here! I would never mistreat an innocent child just because I decided to term- if they thought I was that kind of a person they would have never chosen my service in the first place. I am so irritated right now.

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                        • EntropyControlSpecialist
                          Embracing the chaos.
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 7466

                          #27
                          Originally posted by SunshineMama
                          DCD just showed up in casual clothes at naptime to pick him up, without telling me he was coming early at all (they always let me know when they are coming). I'm sure he wanted to "spy" on me or something... So apparently now they don't trust me? Geeze wow, am I going to have to go through this for the next two weeks? If you don't trust me with your child then don't bring him back here! I would never mistreat an innocent child just because I decided to term- if they thought I was that kind of a person they would have never chosen my service in the first place. I am so irritated right now.
                          Here's my question ... DID HE PAY?

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                          • Zoe
                            Advanced Daycare.com Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 1445

                            #28
                            Yeah, did he pay you!? And I bet since he picked up early you weren't given the chance to give them an immediate term letter.

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                            • EntropyControlSpecialist
                              Embracing the chaos.
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 7466

                              #29
                              You need to invoice them through e-mail and call and leave a message saying that their invoice was sent to them.

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                              • SunshineMama
                                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 1575

                                #30
                                Yes, he did finally send the payment to my account. So I guess that means dcb will be here tomorrow, and dcp's will randomly come whenever tomorrow.

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