Termination Gone Wrong

[KnoxMom]

it would be reeeeally hard not to say anything to her. i'd be so tempted to send her an email, but - knowing that's exactly what she wants/expects would be enough to keep me from doing it.

she's probably checking her inbox 10 times a day just to see how bad she ticked you off. i wouldn't give her the satisfaction.

This exactly! It's going to drive her crazy that she isn't getting to you. She wants the reaction. Also, because she is pregnant, part of it if probably fueled by the hormones making her go into hyper-emotional-drive. I'm glad that you have the support of all of us in this forum and take the high road. The worst thing you can do is feed into her negativity and give her more to talk about. While we are all joking, make sure to DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT! Save and print everything because she has proven herself capable of taking this thing to another level. Way to go on maintaing your professionalism and chalk it up as a lesson learned. Hugs Hun :hug:

[littlemissmuffet]

Wondering if the OP is around.....and if the above is the former disgruntled client who STILL couldn't let go of what happened and that's why they felt the need to drag this back up ::


Seriously.....it's all about the poor parents being left in a bind? Get real. What about the provider left in a bind when their child is dropped off at unpredictable hours miserable and screaming through the day because they're never cared for properly at home. That doesn't leave them and every single other child in their care in a bind AT - ALL does is now....

[nannyde]

We should have a sticky for the best of the best threads ever on DAYCARE.com

This is one of the top ten. I loved the joann fabric thread and the sprinkler thread too

I dont live the four year old nap thread or the buy sell daycare one but they have a zillion views

[MrsSteinel'sHouse]

I have not read the Joann's or the sprinkler threads! Links?

[Blackcat31]

I have not read the Joann's or the sprinkler threads! Links?

Joann's Fabric thread https://www.daycare.com/forum/showth...ann%27s+Fabric

Sprinkler thread: https://www.daycare.com/forum/showth...hlight=nannyde

[nannyde]

Joann's Fabric thread https://www.daycare.com/forum/showth...ann%27s+Fabric

Sprinkler thread: https://www.daycare.com/forum/showth...hlight=nannyde

If you click on the threads button it will sort by highest view count. Get past the stickies and then you can see the threads that were very popular. There's an awesome one called Holy $hit shortest enrollment ever. That was pot o gold

[Blackcat31]

If you click on the threads button it will sort by highest view count. Get past the stickies and then you can see the threads that were very popular. There's an awesome one called Holy $hit shortest enrollment ever. That was pot o gold

When ever I am bored I will go back and search that way to find some interesting reads. Even the ones I've read before always teach me something.

[Unregistered]

As A mother....

The obvious difference is that each wal mart customer doesn't contribute to a large percentage of their total revenue. The reason day care parents in home day care have so much power is that their payment covers a large percentage of the business income.

Parents who have their kids in Centers don't have that much power. If they pull out the Center looses one percent or so depending on the size. In home day care it can be 15-25 percent for the average home day care. This is the dynamic that makes the relationship so unique.

My comparison is that we don't have to explain to parents WHY we don't offer a service they want. In the situation of the OP there wasn't any reason at all to be that specific with the parents. The parents wanted drop in care, control over the child's schedule whenever he DID show up, and only pay for whatever days they decided to bring him. Those are services very few providers offer. It's even more rare with successful providers because there is no money in it and the amount of work involved for the money you do get is not worth the effort. Loose loose for the provider. Win win for the parents... until the provider discontinues the service. Once that happens... well see above.

All the provider had to do was notify the parents that she doesn't provide the service anymore and she is giving them two weeks to make other arrangements. During that two week time the parents would need to provide a SET schedule and pay in advance on pay day for the set schedule. If the parents asks what services the provider DOES provide she can firmly say "full time slots only with set schedules (arrival and departure time) and the child maintain the same schedule as the other children". That's what I now offer. Want it?

End of story. If the parents gets upset (which they will when they are getting THIS big of a NO) then the solution is always just discontinue services without payment and we will all be square.

If you read the Mom's emails she said everything in one sentence "I thought that you were a small daycare that would be more concerned with the welfare of the children and their schedules instead of your own schedule. BAM that's the money shot. She wants the provider to do what she wants her to do "for the sake of the child" but not for the sake of money, good working conditions, a happy provider, a stable group, etc. When you have parents talking about "flexibility" you might as well bend over because flexibility almost ALWAYS means that they do what they want and you get paid either a regular amount that you would normally get daily for a regular kid or even less.

If you are going to be FLEXIBLE then you must have a markedly higher daily rate for flexibility. Flexible for the sake of the child means the parents get cheap drop in day care whenever they want and just pay for those days. Flexibility for the "sake of the child" means you do as you are told.

Nan

Im sorry, but as a mother, all Im seeing you ladies talk about on here is dollar signs...Just as in Doctors, its all about the money, since when did actually enjoying and taking care of children because you want to, and get the benefits of it turn to dollar signs.... Pretty fricken SAD! Hence why my child was pulled from an in-home DayCare... You talking about not getting anything from it??? How sad for your families you take care of...
Enjoy your career Ladies..........

[blandino]

Im sorry, but as a mother, all Im seeing you ladies talk about on here is dollar signs...Just as in Doctors, its all about the money, since when did actually enjoying and taking care of children because you want to, and get the benefits of it turn to dollar signs.... Pretty fricken SAD! Hence why my child was pulled from an in-home DayCare... You talking about not getting anything from it??? How sad for your families you take care of...
Enjoy your career Ladies..........

We run small businesses, you have to consider the "dollar signs". I love my job, but I think you can ask anyone who has done this job if they would do it just for the enjoyment and you wouldn't find a single person to tell you yes. It is a hard job where we work long hours, and shouldn't be criticized for the thinking of the income that comes from running a small business.

As for you pulling your daughter from a home daycare, do you think the girls at a center are doing it for the enjoyment or the pay ?

Like any job, we do it for the income. But I don't think a single person could make it a week in this profession if they didn't also LOvE taking care of children.

[Leigh]

Im sorry, but as a mother, all Im seeing you ladies talk about on here is dollar signs...Just as in Doctors, its all about the money, since when did actually enjoying and taking care of children because you want to, and get the benefits of it turn to dollar signs.... Pretty fricken SAD! Hence why my child was pulled from an in-home DayCare... You talking about not getting anything from it??? How sad for your families you take care of...
Enjoy your career Ladies..........

I realize that this is a years old thread, however, to the person that posted this quote above: Would YOU work for free? It is most certainly NOT for the money that **I** do this, but for the opportunity to spend my days with laughing children. However, I do not and will not work for free...my mortgage is due every month, and so is the payment from the daycare parents. There is no excuse AT ALL to use my services and not pay for it. Period.

I don't speak for all of us, but I took a HUGE paycut (60%) to quit my job and open a daycare. I did this because it makes me happy, and it is good for my family. Money is MORE important now than before because I make so little of it (about 30% of what I make pre-tax goes into caring for these kids).

Exactly what ARE you implying here? That we should take care of strangers' kids for free because we have nothing better to do, or because a parent gets mad at us and doesn't WANT to pay? I am held to the contracts that I sign, and I will hold my clients to the same standards without ever apologizing for it.

[daycarediva]

Im sorry, but as a mother, all Im seeing you ladies talk about on here is dollar signs...Just as in Doctors, its all about the money, since when did actually enjoying and taking care of children because you want to, and get the benefits of it turn to dollar signs.... Pretty fricken SAD! Hence why my child was pulled from an in-home DayCare... You talking about not getting anything from it??? How sad for your families you take care of...
Enjoy your career Ladies..........

I do enjoy caring for children, I do enjoy my career, and I do enjoy being paid for my 65+ hour work week, having a degree in the field, and investing a very large amount of time/money into my home day care.

I could not, would not, do this simply because I enjoy it. It is a HARD job, one that I wouldn't do without financial incentive, and one that has numerous non-financial rewards.

[SSWonders]

Oh heck no!! Ain't nobody got time for that!!

NO WAY! That has got to be the most childish thing I've ever seen a parent do. Do they have any idea how ridiculous they look? It's clear that you will be much better off without the stress of this family.

[SSWonders]

And as usual I didn't look at the older dates in the original posting. One of these days I will get used to that.

[Cat Herder]

Im sorry, but as a mother, all Im seeing you ladies talk about on here is dollar signs...Just as in Doctors, its all about the money, since when did actually enjoying and taking care of children because you want to, and get the benefits of it turn to dollar signs.... Pretty fricken SAD! Hence why my child was pulled from an in-home DayCare... You talking about not getting anything from it??? How sad for your families you take care of...
Enjoy your career Ladies..........

I am sorry, but as a Mother I find it sad that you believe a daycare provider should not work for money.

Spoiler Alert: You leave your child in daycare to work for money. Hypocrite much?

[mom2many]

I am sorry, but as a Mother I find it sad that you believe a daycare provider should not work for money.

You leave your child in daycare to work for money. Hypocrite much?

Love my "job"! It's called that though, because I do it to earn a living at it and yes, I wouldn't do it for free!

It's hard work...some days more than others! I'm thankful that I have a job that I've enjoyed and find fulfilling for these past 27 years!