When do you Give Tax IDs to DCPs?

[Breezy]

Enrolled DCG in Feb 2012 and she is requesting my tax ID now. Why? She won't get to use it this year so why does she need it now?

[sharlan]

I would tell her that you will give her a receipt with your tax id next Jan. She has no need of it now.

[Lucy]

I would be afraid that she's going to try to use it this year. If she reports that she paid you in 2011 and you don't report that income, you could have troubles proving that she didn't. I agree with the above suggestion to just tell her you will give her a receipt at the end of 2012 and it will include your tax id number.

[spud912]

I have had a couple of dcp's who need the number for their flex-spending accounts. If I were you, I would just ask if it was for a flex-spending account or if they wanted it for 2012 taxes. If they say it's for taxes, tell them that you will supply a document with the number in Dec/Jan. If it's for the flex-spending account, I always just give it to them. They need the number to be reimbursed.

[momofboys]

Years ago when I worked outside of the home & used a provider I needed her tax id to submit receipts for our flexible spending acct. I'm sure that is why she needs it but verify with her& also with her company before you proceed.

[Breezy]

Thanks so much everyone! I will verify with her before going forward. My DH thinks shes going to give notice and thats why she is asking for it.

[Breezy]

She says she needs it to file the amount they paid for in childcare for the year. They didn't start until Jan 24th, 2012. She said she asks for it up front to ensure the provider has one or a SSN so they are aware we will file. Should I give it to her or stick with she will get in in Jan?

[daycare123]

i would not give it to her till the end of the year!! That way no funny business can happen.

[Blackcat31]

She says she needs it to file the amount they paid for in childcare for the year. They didn't start until Jan 24th, 2012. She said she asks for it up front to ensure the provider has one or a SSN so they are aware we will file. Should I give it to her or stick with she will get in in Jan?

If you use MMK to print out billings or receipts, your EIN is printed right on it so each of my parents receives it (my EIN) each time they pay me.

If you give her a print out for what she has paid you since Jan 24, 2012 and she tries to use it for a different year, there really isn't anything you can do about it.

I wouldn't worry, since you have the documents to prove that she started in January of 2012.

Who's to say that she can't take your EIN at the end of this year and use it to do last years taxes too (if she was late doing them)? Know what I mean?

You can't really control what parents do with your EIN. All you can do is keep acurate records so your butt is always covered.

[Breezy]

If you use MMK to print out billings or receipts, your EIN is printed right on it so each of my parents receives it (my EIN) each time they pay me.

If you give her a print out for what she has paid you since Jan 24, 2012 and she tries to use it for a different year, there really isn't anything you can do about it.

I wouldn't worry, since you have the documents to prove that she started in January of 2012.

Who's to say that she can't take your EIN at the end of this year and use it to do last years taxes too (if she was late doing them)? Know what I mean?

You can't really control what parents do with your EIN. All you can do is keep acurate records so your butt is always covered.

I feel like if she doesn't trust I am telling her the truth that I have an EIN then I shouldn't have her kid here. She is always trying to be in control of something and telling me what to do or how to talk. Or that she is concerned about me working til 8pm and being able to get up and take care of her kid,

[Blackcat31]

I feel like if she doesn't trust I am telling her the truth that I have an EIN then I shouldn't have her kid here. She is always trying to be in control of something and telling me what to do or how to talk. Or that she is concerned about me working til 8pm and being able to get up and take care of her kid,

I think that is more her issue than anything. I don't think the EIN has anything to do with it. Besides, even if you didn't have an EIN, I don't see how that makes you any less or more trustworthy. You can still be running a completely 100% legit business without an EIN and I surely wouldn't be handing out my SS# to anyone. Even if you didn't claim your income from daycare (which I know you do) she can still claim anything she paid out so that is really just a dumb excuse on her part.

I would address the trust issue with her if I were you. I would tell her (or write her a note...PM me if you need help) saying that you get the feeling she really doesn't trust you and that in order for you two to continue with the child care contract, there needs to be some level of trust. If she is constantly questioning everything you do, I am not sure I would be comfortable continuing to care for her. Some people are just like that and are never happy with anyone but YOU don't have to do things that way.

I know providers don't want to always term or lose a client but one thing I do know for sure is in this business, if you don't have clients you can work with (trust) then you are going to drive yourself wacky and start to hate your job!

NO amount of money is worth feeling inadequate because of a parent. Speak up and let her know how you feel. If she doesn't like it, then she signed your contract so she can refer to it in finding out how to withdraw from care.

YOU do what YOU need to do and don't let her bully you or make you feel less than capable!

[Breezy]

I think that is more her issue than anything. I don't think the EIN has anything to do with it. Besides, even if you didn't have an EIN, I don't see how that makes you any less or more trustworthy. You can still be running a completely 100% legit business without an EIN and I surely wouldn't be handing out my SS# to anyone. Even if you didn't claim your income from daycare (which I know you do) she can still claim anything she paid out so that is really just a dumb excuse on her part.

I would address the trust issue with her if I were you. I would tell her (or write her a note...PM me if you need help) saying that you get the feeling she really doesn't trust you and that in order for you two to continue with the child care contract, there needs to be some level of trust. If she is constantly questioning everything you do, I am not sure I would be comfortable continuing to care for her. Some people are just like that and are never happy with anyone but YOU don't have to do things that way.

I know providers don't want to always term or lose a client but one thing I do know for sure is in this business, if you don't have clients you can work with (trust) then you are going to drive yourself wacky and start to hate your job!

NO amount of money is worth feeling inadequate because of a parent. Speak up and let her know how you feel. If she doesn't like it, then she signed your contract so she can refer to it in finding out how to withdraw from care.

YOU do what YOU need to do and don't let her bully you or make you feel less than capable!

That is exactly how I feel. Whenever she talks to me she talks down to me and interactions with her make me sick to my stomach. I want to term them but I feel bad DCG will have to go to yet another DC

[spud912]

I find it odd that she trusts you to watch her child, yet she doesn't trust that you file taxes at the end of the year. Seriously, who cares? Let's say you don't file taxes, then it would be you who got in trouble, not her. Why is it any of her business???

[countrymom]

I wouldn't give it to her. Her whole story doesn't make sense. Do you want your number floating around, I know I wouldn't want it. Tell her know until tax time and if she has problems with it, tell her to talk to your accountant.

[Breezy]

I wouldn't give it to her. Her whole story doesn't make sense. Do you want your number floating around, I know I wouldn't want it. Tell her know until tax time and if she has problems with it, tell her to talk to your accountant.

I wish I had an accountant otherwise thats exactly what I would say. I havent responded to the last message saying they want it up front yet. I still have no idea what to say when she responds p off because I tell her I will give it to her in Jan.