Would/Do You Give Your Sister Free Daycare?

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  • sharlan
    Daycare.com Member
    • May 2011
    • 6067

    #16
    IF it was a situation where your sister was having severe financial problems AND IF it wouldn't have a negative impact on your finances or your relationship with your sister, I would say do it.

    Otherwise, let her look for daycare on her own AND pay for it.

    I've read too many stories here to see how fast things take a turn for the worse.

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    • dave4him
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 1333

      #17
      Hahahahahah. No
      "God said, ‘I have found David son of Jesse, a man after my own heart. He will do everything I want him to do.'"
      Acts 13:22

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      • daycare
        Advanced Daycare.com *********
        • Feb 2011
        • 16259

        #18
        Originally posted by dave4him
        Hahahahahah. No
        Lol. Didn't even have to think about it did you??

        Lol too funny!!

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        • cheerfuldom
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 7413

          #19
          I know that if my sister was working a regular job, she would expect me to take her daughter for free. She has said that other relatives should help out for free (and they do). Thankfully, she works only about 10 hours a week and she brings her daughter to work so we have never had this convo in real life (but no, I would not do free care on a regular basis). She did work as my assistant for awhile and that was a really bad idea....but I didnt know any better at the time and like a dummy, trusted that she would not take advantage of the situation. Now she still makes comments about how hard I was to work for and blah, blah, blah......

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          • littlemissmuffet
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 2194

            #20
            My number 1 rule is no family, no friends, no neighbors! I make an exception to this rule for my sister (I have her son PT) but ONLY because she also runs a home daycare... so she's my best daycare parent, . She pays me my regular rate, no discounts... and she doesn't expect one!

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            • Meyou
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 2734

              #21
              I watched my niece for 4 years for full price. I'll be watching my new niece or nephew under the same terms as anyone else once they are 12 months too. We agreed from the beginning they would sign as normal clients and we would stick to the contract. The only condition we had that was different was that occasionally they would both work late so when I closed I would switch to Aunty for an hour or two. Since I would have been the one they asked to pick their dd up somewhere else when they both work late I didn't mind giving them this exception.

              We agreed before we started that during my business hours ALL rules apply the same as for everyone else but after hours I turned into Aunty so they could always ask if Aunty could keep her longer or on weekends. It worked for us because they were equally willing to take my dd's on off hours as I was to have theirs.

              OP, it wouldn't be for free. For me, taking a FT time child for "free" actually means I need to cut $7500 out of my yearly budget or approx $650/month since I lose the potential to earn that income. Maybe explaining it to family in those terms will make them understand what free actually costs you.

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              • SunshineMama
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 1575

                #22
                Originally posted by small_steps
                My sister mentioned to my mom that she was calling around local daycares in town and I guess she told them that her sister had a daycare...supposedly they were all saying "I can't believe your sister won't give you free daycare"
                I'm a little offended. And I did tell her I would do it for $100 per week even though I charge $140 for his age (under 18 months). I do feel bad, but I know that I can't afford to keep him for free. If I were rich and didn't have to worry about finances I would love to keep him but that's not the case.
                Am I wrong? Do you guys keep your neices and nephews for free? With him being under 18 months it would limit my numbers and i would have to hire an employee or let a paying child go.

                Sorry..I'm kinda venting. It frustrates me that people think everything should be handed to them.
                I would only do it if I were financially able to, AND if my sister were not financially able to find quality care.

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                • small_steps
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 489

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Meyou
                  I watched my niece for 4 years for full price. I'll be watching my new niece or nephew under the same terms as anyone else once they are 12 months too. We agreed from the beginning they would sign as normal clients and we would stick to the contract. The only condition we had that was different was that occasionally they would both work late so when I closed I would switch to Aunty for an hour or two. Since I would have been the one they asked to pick their dd up somewhere else when they both work late I didn't mind giving them this exception.

                  We agreed before we started that during my business hours ALL rules apply the same as for everyone else but after hours I turned into Aunty so they could always ask if Aunty could keep her longer or on weekends. It worked for us because they were equally willing to take my dd's on off hours as I was to have theirs.

                  OP, it wouldn't be for free. For me, taking a FT time child for "free" actually means I need to cut $7500 out of my yearly budget or approx $650/month since I lose the potential to earn that income. Maybe explaining it to family in those terms will make them understand what free actually costs you.
                  Yes...I probably will explain it to her in those terms, however, she would never come to me and tell me any of that. She talks to everyone else about it. My mom said she was going to tell her. We are having difficulty with my sister now anyway. She is going through a rough time (just becoming a single parent because her and the baby's father have split up). I would love to help her and I agree with what someone else on here said "family should help one another". And I think that should be the case. My sister has not babysat my own children in 2 years since she became pregnant with her son, and even before that it was very rare and I paid her $10/hour to do it. She has her license to do hair and she never cuts mine or my children's or even my mom's for free (even though she does her friends for free) so I guess I'm just thinking what goes around comes around. Mean...maybe but hopefully she will learn a lesson.
                  Now I did tell her to go get on CCMS (our state funded assistance) and I do take that so she could've brought my nephew here and only paid a small copay but she waited and put it off and never did. Unfortunately our state assistance has a very low budget at this time and they aren't taking on any new clients throughout the year.

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                  • small_steps
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 489

                    #24
                    Originally posted by itlw8
                    I need to call my sister and tell her how great she is. My sisters would do anything for me. I had her kids p/t when she needed me Luckily I did not have to count them in my ratio. she never took advantage. I did do favors outside of business hours and she would come sub for me for free.

                    I guess I need to thank my Mother also for teaching us how to get along.happyface
                    My mom tried. My sister is just too much like my dad and I'm too much like my mom (they've been divorced for 20+ years. I'm the responsible one that goes out and does what needs to be done and she is the one that needs things done for her.
                    But in this case I'm not going to take care of her. I'm always loaning money or paying her bill for her. I can't afford to do it. And yes...it takes potentially $500 out of my pocket every month. That's a lot of money that myself and my own children need.
                    You're lucky if your sister doesn't take advantage of you. Count your blessings

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                    • Kaddidle Care
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 2090

                      #25
                      Your childcare business is just that - it's a business. Tell your sister you never mix business with pleasure.

                      Explain to her why you are doing this - to be home with your children and to earn money so that you can stay home with your children.

                      Encourage her to stay home with her child.

                      There are too many out there that push out a baby and can't wait to get on with their lives. They have no interest in being parents and while it keeps many of you in business, the whole "I HAVE to work" thing is over used.

                      If you have to work, then think twice about having children. They are not accessories to show off on weekends.

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                      • CheekyChick
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 810

                        #26
                        Since I would have to buy all of his food/curriculum/art supplies, I would charge him half the normal rate.

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                        • bunnyslippers
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 987

                          #27
                          I have my nephew here this year, and I can honestly say it has done terrible things to my relationship with my sister-in-law. He is a nightmare of a baby, and is spoiled rotten. She acts as though he is the only child I care for. She makes digs all the time about my contract, my closings, having to pay when he isn't here, and even questioned me about a bruise he had on him bottom in front of my whole family last weekend at dinner. I went a bit nuts on her for that one....

                          I have asked them to look for new care for next year. She is constantly late, or early, and takes forever to leave at the end of the day. I just told them that I really need to keep to my contracted hours and that it seems like my program isn't the best fit. I can't WAIT for them to leave!!!!!!!

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                          • cheerfuldom
                            Advanced Daycare.com Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 7413

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Kaddidle Care
                            Your childcare business is just that - it's a business. Tell your sister you never mix business with pleasure.

                            Explain to her why you are doing this - to be home with your children and to earn money so that you can stay home with your children.

                            Encourage her to stay home with her child.


                            There are too many out there that push out a baby and can't wait to get on with their lives. They have no interest in being parents and while it keeps many of you in business, the whole "I HAVE to work" thing is over used.

                            If you have to work, then think twice about having children. They are not accessories to show off on weekends.
                            The OP just said that this sister is a single parents, right? I don't think the bolded is an option. Yes we all know working parents that dont have the time for their own kids but I don't think it is fair at all to say "If you have to work, then think twice about having children".....EVERYONE should take the decision for more kids seriously, regardless of their job AND being a working parent and being a good parent are not mutually exclusive.

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                            • itlw8
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 2199

                              #29
                              Originally posted by small_steps
                              My mom tried. My sister is just too much like my dad and I'm too much like my mom (they've been divorced for 20+ years. I'm the responsible one that goes out and does what needs to be done and she is the one that needs things done for her.
                              But in this case I'm not going to take care of her. I'm always loaning money or paying her bill for her. I can't afford to do it. And yes...it takes potentially $500 out of my pocket every month. That's a lot of money that myself and my own children need.
                              You're lucky if your sister doesn't take advantage of you. Count your blessings
                              Oh I am counting would I take your sister? no would I loan her money? not if she does not pay it back
                              It:: will wait

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                              • Lilbutterflie
                                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 1359

                                #30
                                Rule #1 of doing Home Daycare- NEVER do business with friends or family!! You risk those relationships forever.

                                I have done business with my sis-in-law before. This is an interesting one b/c I have been on BOTH sides! First, she was the one with the daycare and I was the working mom. We NEVER would have asked her for free childcare b/c we realized this was her business. We paid her exactly what everyone else paid her. It worked out well, I think. She never expressed any concerns about anything. And I always thought she was a great childcare provider to my children.

                                Then the tides changed. She ended up going to work full time in the corporate world, and about the same time I decided to open up my own daycare. I started taking care of my two nieces and nephew. The children were fine, I never had any issues with them. But my sis-in-law very rarely paid on time. There were lots of issues with late and early pick up times and drop off times whenever my brother-in-law was supposed to pick them up. She still owes me money to this day, hundreds, for payments she missed with me. That is not including any late fees b/c I decided not to charge her late fees. At first I kept reminding her about it, but then I just gave up. I'll never see that money, and I know it. It's alright. I learned my lesson. We are just lucky our family relationship survived it.

                                Please Please Please do not do business with your sister! Explain to her that you have received some great advice to never do business with family, and you've decided to follow it. That you are concerned that your relationship will not survive it, and it's more important to you than being available to her to "help her out". If she is a decent friend and sister, she will completely understand. If not, it's better for her to have a grudge against you for valuing your relationship than BOTH of you hating and resenting each other down the road.

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