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  • MrsB
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 589

    #16
    Originally posted by sahm2three
    If a state tried to tell me or my daycare parents that they HAD to vaccinate their children no matter what their/my views were, I would be DONE with this job! Sorry, my son almost died from a vaccine! I won't put my kids in that kind of danger again! I choose to keep my families bodies as healthy as we can and let them fight things off. My two older kids are fully vaccinated, my youngest had a TERRIBLE reaction at the age of 1 and we decided to do our research and chose to not vaccinate further. No one is going to tell me I HAVE to do ANYTHING with my own child!
    Our state isn't telling you have to. They are just saying you have to if you want your kids enrolled in program regulated by the state. Unless you have a religous exemption.

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    • Mommy2One
      Daycare.com Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 119

      #17
      Originally posted by Soupyszoo
      I know when my kids ever went to daycare or even school it was required. So on a side note, who cares for the kids who are NOT vaccinated??
      We have our daughter on a delayed/spread out vaccination schedule, so she'll be getting all of required shots before she starts school but currently she's a little behind the standard schedule and would not be considered up to date. She has been cared for by unlicensed-home or private (our home) care providers since she was 14 months old (at home with mommy and/or grandmas before that). Those providers would have been our choice regardless of our eligibility for center or licensed care (little available in our area) so it hasn't been an issue. None of our providers have ever asked about her vaccination records and our daughter has, thankfully, never had more than a runny nose and has actually never needed to make a sick-visit to the doctor.

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      • wdmmom
        Advanced Daycare.com
        • Mar 2011
        • 2713

        #18
        Per our state regs (Iowa), children do not need to be vaccinnated. We are required to have the immunization record on file or a waiver.

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        • Meyou
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 2734

          #19
          Originally posted by sahm2three
          If you are confident in what your vaccinations are supposed to do, then why would you be worried?
          I agree.

          Vaccinations are not required where I live. I don't vaccinate and I tell all my DCF's that in the interview. Most of my families vaccinate but there have been those that have not. I also don't discuss it with parents although since I don't vaccinate I have by default all families that are secure with their choice and mine.

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          • Zoe
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 1445

            #20
            Originally posted by wdmmom
            Per our state regs (Iowa), children do not need to be vaccinnated. We are required to have the immunization record on file or a waiver.
            Same here in MN. The form required a notary stamp for those who choose not to vaccinate and my licensor took a copy of this child's vaccination form for her files. I don't really see the problem. Everyone else is vaccinated so it really isn't going affect them and the child's mother and I are in constant communication if there ever was a problem I'd know about it.

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            • Ariana
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 8969

              #21
              My DD is not vaccinated for medical reasons. We just get a note from our DR to opt out of providing proof of vacinations which is required by most licensed centres here in my city. Sometimes not vaccinating is not a choice.

              I don't discuss it with parents. I also don't ask parents if their children are vaccinated before taking them. I agree with Blackcat, just tell them you don't discuss other families and stop talking.

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              • Soupyszoo
                Daycare.com Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 328

                #22
                Originally posted by Ariana
                My DD is not vaccinated for medical reasons. We just get a note from our DR to opt out of providing proof of vacinations which is required by most licensed centres here in my city. Sometimes not vaccinating is not a choice.

                I don't discuss it with parents. I also don't ask parents if their children are vaccinated before taking them. I agree with Blackcat, just tell them you don't discuss other families and stop talking.
                I can see both sides I guess. But will definitely not discuss anymore with either family

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                • snbauser
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1385

                  #23
                  Originally posted by MrsB
                  My first point, by not vaccinating it is placing the child who is not vaccinated at more risk than the child who is vaccinated. I see no problem caring for a child that is not vaccinated just be up to date on the signs and symptoms of most of these types of diseases.

                  My states rules are SUPER strict, all daycare providers HAVE to be licensed. All licensing is ran by the board of education so we have the same immunization requirements as the schools. To be able to enroll in any daycare or public/private school. You have to vaccinate unless you claim a religious exemption. But that is the only exemption they allow. I have had parents come and say i vaccinate all except the chicken pox or whatever. Not allowed, if you claim the religious exemption then you claim all immunizations. If you get some vaccinations you can't claim the religious exemption later. So here you can choose not to vaccinate or vaccinate only some but unless it is religious reasons you can't enroll in school or daycare.
                  I am in the same state and this is not 100% accurate. Licensing is NOT run by the board of education. It is a separate state run agencey (Division of Child Develpment and Early Education). All daycare providers do NOT have to be licensed. You can run a part day (less than 4 hrs) program or a drop in program without being licensed. You can also watch 2 children unrelated to you without being licensed.

                  We are not allowed to accept children who are not vaccinated at all according to my licenser. My understanding on this is that it is different than public schools because once they are in school all the kids whose parents wish to have them vaccinated have done so and the only kids at risk of the disease are the ones who are not vaccinated. In a child care program there are typically children of various ages who may not be old enough to have received all of their immunizations and therefore may be at risk of exposure.

                  This is different from when I was licensed in CA. There we could accept children who were not vaccinated but we had to disclose to our families that we accepted children who weren't.

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                  • MrsB
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 589

                    #24
                    Originally posted by snbauser
                    I am in the same state and this is not 100% accurate. Licensing is NOT run by the board of education. It is a separate state run agencey (Division of Child Develpment and Early Education). All daycare providers do NOT have to be licensed. You can run a part day (less than 4 hrs) program or a drop in program without being licensed. You can also watch 2 children unrelated to you without being licensed.

                    We are not allowed to accept children who are not vaccinated at all according to my licenser. My understanding on this is that it is different than public schools because once they are in school all the kids whose parents wish to have them vaccinated have done so and the only kids at risk of the disease are the ones who are not vaccinated. In a child care program there are typically children of various ages who may not be old enough to have received all of their immunizations and therefore may be at risk of exposure.

                    This is different from when I was licensed in CA. There we could accept children who were not vaccinated but we had to disclose to our families that we accepted children who weren't.
                    Sorry im in Maryland not North Carolina. didnt realize it had the wrong state as my location.

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                    • snbauser
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 1385

                      #25
                      Originally posted by MrsB
                      Sorry im in Maryland not North Carolina. didnt realize it had the wrong state as my location.
                      LOL!!! Now your post make sense.

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                      • Greenplasticwateringcans
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 151

                        #26
                        I am very pro vax but not militant about it and do not judge parents who don't vax.
                        My daughter, who is fully vaxed, has had whooping cough and mumps. Awesome huh? Vaxes are not 100% so it doesn't matter to me I'd children in my care are or not. I never discuss it with other parents about who is or isn't.

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                        • jojosmommy
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1103

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Breezy
                          I only accept vaccinated kids. I have infants in my care they may not have had all shots because of their age therefore I need to make sure they are protected.
                          100% agree. My own child is not fully protected because she is too young to have received all the imms therefore anyone Not immunized is a threat to her. I ask at first interview and have turned away families who chose not to immunize before.

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                          • Soupyszoo
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 328

                            #28
                            I didn't bring it up to the parents. This was presented to me this morning at drop off. Not really sure where it came from. I do not discuss any issues of certain dcks with other families. However, if someone is concerned and brings something up, whether it's this topic or something else, it does need addressed. Our jobs aren't just about childcare. When dealing with adults OR children it's also about conflict resolution!

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                            • Ariana
                              Advanced Daycare.com Member
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 8969

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Greenplasticwateringcans
                              I am very pro vax but not militant about it and do not judge parents who don't vax.
                              My daughter, who is fully vaxed, has had whooping cough and mumps. Awesome huh? Vaxes are not 100% so it doesn't matter to me I'd children in my care are or not. I never discuss it with other parents about who is or isn't.
                              Thank you for this!! I think this is very important for all parents and providers to know. You should be looking for the signs and symptoms of these illnesses regardless of vaccinations.

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                              • Soupyszoo
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 328

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Ariana
                                Thank you for this!! I think this is very important for all parents and providers to know. You should be looking for the signs and symptoms of these illnesses regardless of vaccinations.
                                This is also very true! This is one of the reasons it never crossed my mind to ask or bring it up! Aren't we all watching out for the signs and symptoms anyways?! I feel I'm very aware of even a runny nose in my dcks. I'm also very quick to tell parents if I suspect sickness coming on. I'm probably more concerned than they are because I want everyone to stay healthy in MY house! ::

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