Uncircumcised?? What's the Big Deal??

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  • Meyou
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 2734

    #46
    Originally posted by jojosmommy
    I would be willing to bet that much of the information on not circ boys is put out by the insurance companies in an effort to save money. I bet they even helped "determine" it is a cosmetic procedure.

    I also find it interesting that in Canada as someone noted 90% are not circ. Govt healthcare had a lot to do with that I bet. Easy to change the status quo if it is attached to money.


    When my hubs was in the marines lots adult males were choosing to get it done for hygienic reasons. Not a pleasant experience as an adult I hear ::.
    MSI(or gov't healthcare) covers all medically necessary procedures. They WILL cover medically necessary circumcision with no question as well. That in itself raises the question as to whether it's necessary or not IMO. They don't cut services to save money...they lengthen wait times.

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    • wdmmom
      Advanced Daycare.com
      • Mar 2011
      • 2713

      #47
      JMHO but cleanliness is true.

      I know it's TMI but seriously, smell is key here.

      An uncircumsized man can recently shower and go to the bathroom and if they don't "shake it" enough, any additional beads or urine can retract with the skin and literally forment all day long.

      It's worse smelling than a 2 week litter box!

      If I had to do it all over again, I would circ my child.

      Again TMI, but I think from a intercourse perspective, circ is better.

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      • Breezy
        Daycare.com Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 1271

        #48
        Originally posted by wdmmom
        JMHO but cleanliness is true.

        I know it's TMI but seriously, smell is key here.

        An uncircumsized man can recently shower and go to the bathroom and if they don't "shake it" enough, any additional beads or urine can retract with the skin and literally forment all day long.

        It's worse smelling than a 2 week litter box!

        If I had to do it all over again, I would circ my child.

        Again TMI, but I think from a intercourse perspective, circ is better.


        Agree 100%. And you can honestly teach children how to be hygenic but I can tell you that young boys do not take the time to clean themselves the way they should

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        • kayla
          New Daycare.com Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 298

          #49
          I am for circumsicion... No it is not covered by insurance it costs 314. I am pregnant with a son and he WILL be circumsized. My dh is and im pretty sure he has not lost any sensation...In fact I have never seen an uncircumsized penis. Also I know a couple ppl that are not and they told me they wish they had been. They were made fun of in locker rooms, and by girls they were intimate with... It's my personal decision, just as breast feeding my son is also..

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          • Breezy
            Daycare.com Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 1271

            #50
            Originally posted by kayla
            I am foDhr circumsicion... No it is not covered by insurance it costs 314. I am pregnant with a son and he WILL be circumsized. My dh is and im pretty sure he has not lost any sensation...In fact I have never seen an uncircumsized penis. Also I know a couple ppl that are not and they told me they wish they had been. They were made fun of in locker rooms, and by girls they were intimate with... It's my personal decision, just as breast feeding my son is also..
            Dh and I were talking about the sensation last night (because of this thread) and he said if he was any more sensitive he wouldnt be able to enjoy it. Hes circed.

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            • Greenplasticwateringcans
              Daycare.com Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 151

              #51
              Originally posted by wdmmom
              JMHO but cleanliness is true.

              I know it's TMI but seriously, smell is key here.

              An uncircumsized man can recently shower and go to the bathroom and if they don't "shake it" enough, any additional beads or urine can retract with the skin and literally forment all day long.

              It's worse smelling than a 2 week litter box!

              If I had to do it all over again, I would circ my child.

              Again TMI, but I think from a intercourse perspective, circ is better.

              ! What?!?!

              My husbands uncirc'd penis does not smell like a 2 week old litter box.

              I had a circ'd boyfriend whose penis always smelled bad...so there's an an antidotal story about circ'd peni being unhygienic.

              :s

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              • Soupyszoo
                Daycare.com Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 328

                #52
                Originally posted by Greenplasticwateringcans
                ! What?!?!

                My husbands uncirc'd penis does not smell like a 2 week old litter box.

                I had a circ'd boyfriend whose penis always smelled bad...so there's an an antidotal story about circ'd peni being unhygienic.

                :s
                This made me laugh! I'd be a little embarrassed if someone said my vagina smelled like a litter box at all! Even a clean litter box!

                However, unfortunately, I have to agree based on experience the one uncircumcised man I knew had a very smelly penis!!

                It could very well just be a matter of person hygiene though!!

                Who knows

                One thing that's stood out to me since reading everyone's comments and opinions is when they say they were uncircumcised until medically necessary. Or choosing to opt not to circumsice UNTIL medically necessary. Does this mean that it's more likely that the boys will need it done at some point?? If that's the case and I had a boy I would choose to have it done as young as possible.

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                • KEG123
                  Where Children Grow
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 1252

                  #53
                  My son is and if we were to have another boy, he would definitely NOT be circ'd. I am a lot more educated than I was then. I just don't have the time to type out all my reasons, but if you're really intersted, look it up.
                  Last edited by Michael; 03-06-2012, 04:10 PM.

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                  • MamaBear
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 665

                    #54
                    Originally posted by daycare
                    When my son was born i looked into it and decided against it. I did tons of research and this is what I found and was told.

                    At first, only Black soldiers back in the 1920s were singled out for circumcision, because they were believed to be unable to keep themselves clean. Eventually, this carried over to all soldiers, who were sometimes threatened with courtmarshal, if they refused to undergo the knife.

                    The operation gained popularity after World War II, when the soldiers returned home and started the Baby Boom generation. This is when doctors started performing them on every baby, with, or without his parents' permission.

                    I think it carries on from Father to son, because they want their sons to look and be like them.

                    In the end, I chose not to do it
                    Where the heck did you hear this or read this? That just sounds soooo ridiculous... Like something some racist person made up.

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                    • Crystal
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 4002

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Soupyszoo
                      That's what I'm seeing! A lot of debates! The people that are against it seem almost condescending in their views! They seems to be rallying with attachment parents and the breast feeders and the cloth diaperers all of which I could care less about! What everyone wants to worry about is their choice. I just can't help but feel a tad offended when this group of people talk down to people who use disposable diapers, formula and let their babies sleep in cribs and choose to circumsice.
                      What I see in this post is YOU being condescending of those who choose attachment parenting, breastfeeding and cloth diapering. I am just a tad offended by these remarks myself.

                      My oldest son was not circumcised, my younger son is. I was a single mom with the first, and chose not to circ, AND I used cloth diapers. My second son's Dad (my hubby) preferred we circ him, as he is. I still wish I had fought it and not gone through with it. My oldest son is 21 and has never had an issues, my younger son hasn';t either, but IME there is no valid medical reason for circ., just a greater need for the parent to educate the child about proper hygeine.

                      Either way, I think it is purely a personal decision for the parent, and other people's opinions and ideals should be irrelevant.

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                      • MamaBear
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 665

                        #56
                        Everyone makes their own decisions and make their own choices on whether or not to do this. I have 3 sons and they were all circumcised when born. Now their ages are 19, 11 and 6. They all had local anesthetic when it was done. They didnt even cry. I know some dr.'s don't use the local though which is so sad. To each their own. In my opinion I think they look so much better circumcised and easier to keep clean when young. Just my opinion.

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                        • Blackcat31
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 36124

                          #57
                          Originally posted by MamaBear
                          Not sure why my response to this was deleted before... but I'm just really curious as to where you ever heard or read this? Honestly I'd like to know???
                          She responded in post #30 about where she heard this information.

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                          • Soupyszoo
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 328

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Blackcat31
                            She responded in post #30 about where she heard this information.
                            I didn't know posts could be deleted??

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                            • Soupyszoo
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 328

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Crystal
                              What I see in this post is YOU being condescending of those who choose attachment parenting, breastfeeding and cloth diapering. I am just a tad offended by these remarks myself.

                              My oldest son was not circumcised, my younger son is. I was a single mom with the first, and chose not to circ, AND I used cloth diapers. My second son's Dad (my hubby) preferred we circ him, as he is. I still wish I had fought it and not gone through with it. My oldest son is 21 and has never had an issues, my younger son hasn';t either, but IME there is no valid medical reason for circ., just a greater need for the parent to educate the child about proper hygeine.

                              Either way, I think it is purely a personal decision for the parent, and other people's opinions and ideals should be irrelevant.
                              I'm not sure how that was condescending, I was saying I don't care about people's decision to do any of those things. More power to the people who choose a "more natural" approach to parenting. I was also stating that I feel that those people often talk down to people who don't choose that way. Other peoples opinions SHOULD be irrelivant but obviously they aren't or you wouldn't be "a tad offended".

                              All that being said... Had I known more about cloth diapers when I was a new mom I would have considered it! Those things are pretty cool! I have a dcg in them and it's no trouble at all, then again I get to send them home every night to be washed, AND she hasn't started solids yet ::

                              But honestly... Sorry if I offended you. Not my intention

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                              • Blackcat31
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 36124

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Soupyszoo
                                I didn't know posts could be deleted??
                                I don't think anyone's post were deleted.

                                I was simply telling MamaBear that Daycare already responded about where she heard the info she posted.

                                MamaBear said her own post was deleted, but I am not aware of that happening as I see two posts by her so maybe she just didn't see it and thought it was deleted..:confused:

                                I don't know, but as far as I know, nothing has been deleted.

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