Uncircumcised?? What's the Big Deal??

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  • C'est la vie.
    Daycare.com Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 66

    #31
    Originally posted by Meyou
    IMO it's cosmetic surgery and shouldn't be done without the patient's consent.
    Tell that to the 5 year old we have at DC that just needed to be circ'd. Ouch.
    ECE and Mother to a 4 year old girl and 21 month old boy

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    • MNMum
      Daycare.com Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 595

      #32
      I'm the nurse who gets to hold the baby's hand and prepare them before they have it done. I've witnessed a few too many circumcisions not go as planned. My advice to anyone who has their son circumcised is to do lots of research and get a very skilled doctor. It's an art, and some doctors are just more experienced and better at it.
      MnMum married to DH 9 years
      Mum to Girl 21, Girl 18, Boy 14.5, Boy 11

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      • momofboys
        Advanced Daycare Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 2560

        #33
        I was just reading an article about circ rates this past week in my local paper (Columbus Dispatch) & I found it interesting that for my area of the country (midwest) the circ rate is still pretty high - whereas in the western states it was much lower. If I can find the link to the article I will post it.

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        • SilverSabre25
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 7585

          #34
          Originally posted by momofboys
          I was just reading an article about circ rates this past week in my local paper (Columbus Dispatch) & I found it interesting that for my area of the country (midwest) the circ rate is still pretty high - whereas in the western states it was much lower. If I can find the link to the article I will post it.
          It is definitely very much a regional thing.

          I'm surprised a little that our area here is a little high...but despite that it is very accepted. I know many, MANY uncirc'd boys but that might be the circles I run in :P. The hospital didn't bat an eye when we didn't circ DS.
          Hee hee! Look, I have a signature!

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          • PolarCare
            Daycare.com Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 82

            #35
            My son is circumcised.

            So is my stepson. It's all daughters for me after them. That said, if I have another son in the future, I will absolutely NOT circumcise him. I know a lot more now about it than I did when I was 20. I allowed my boy to be circumcised because his father wanted it done. I should have advocated for my boy and given him the choice.

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            • Meyou
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 2734

              #36
              Originally posted by C'est la vie.
              Tell that to the 5 year old we have at DC that just needed to be circ'd. Ouch.
              I'm assuming he needed to be circ'd for medical reasons? If so, it's hardly a good example. I have actually had a DCB who needed a circ for a medical reason when he was 6. It was awful and he got an infection that lasted weeks. But again...you can't compare a needed medical procedure to a voluntary cosmetic procedure. My DCB's father had to be circ'd as a adult for the same medical reason and still chose not to circ his son until it became medically necessary.

              It's not common here in my province, it's not covered by insurance or MSI and it is 100% considered a cosmetic procedure.

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              • Solandia
                Daycare.com Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 372

                #37
                My boy is intact. In my 10 years of almost full-time daycare, and all but 2 of my dcks being boys....I have only seen/diapered one other intact boy. Our circ rates at the local hospital is very nearly 100%. It is virtually unheard of to NOT circ in our rural midwest area. Even my ob, who does almost all the circ's on the little boys he delivers in that hospital (and gets lots of money for a quickie procedure), said there is absolutely no compelling medical reason to circ a boy.


                /safechner Also, it got me interested to hear a lot of this forum that now there are so many parents against it now. What a shame. It seems like the parents are against to control their own children, spanking, strict their children, blah, blah. It seems it is getting worse. Really, Safechner? Not circ'ing is part of the downfall of parenting? GMAFB.

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                • SilverSabre25
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 7585

                  #38
                  Originally posted by safechner

                  Also, it got me interested to hear a lot of this forum that now there are so many parents against it now. What a shame. It seems like the parents are against to control their own children, spanking, strict their children, blah, blah. It seems it is getting worse.
                  :confused:

                  I do not know what to say to that...perhaps if you do some research into the topic you will see that it has nothing to do with control/no control. In fact, I beg you, PLEASE educate yourself on this topic so that you understand the reasons even if you do not agree with them. Controlling children and choosing not to circumcise are like comparing apples and oranges...you just can't do it.
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                  • jojosmommy
                    Advanced Daycare.com Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1103

                    #39
                    I would be willing to bet that much of the information on not circ boys is put out by the insurance companies in an effort to save money. I bet they even helped "determine" it is a cosmetic procedure.

                    I also find it interesting that in Canada as someone noted 90% are not circ. Govt healthcare had a lot to do with that I bet. Easy to change the status quo if it is attached to money.


                    When my hubs was in the marines lots adult males were choosing to get it done for hygienic reasons. Not a pleasant experience as an adult I hear ::.

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                    • godiva83
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 581

                      #40
                      My DS is not circ. and either will my next baby boy.
                      It is not in my religion, my beliefs, nor do I hold it to be medically nessecary. Personally it is a big 'what if' what if my child gets infections, what if my son looks different ect. I will teach my Son proper hygiene, teach him about the passing of STI's and the importance of safe sex and hope I can teach him preventive measures.

                      In no way does the decision to circ. or not determine your parenting skills or abilities as a previous post mentioned.
                      It is a personal choice made by the guardians a choice that needs to be researched and thought about thoroughly - it is not a 'fad' and does not go in the same category as 'cloth diapering' by any stretch as previously mentioned.
                      Parents need to make an educated decision in the best interest of their child whether that is to be circ. or not.

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                      • MrsB
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 589

                        #41
                        Another very interesting topic! I dont have a strong opinion one way or the other. My son is circu and he had problems. He was a newborn in the hospital and had it done a couple hours before we were discharged. It just kept bleeding. I never had experiences with it so I assumed that the blood was normal. I held on to his little penis with gauze for about 2 hours trying to get it to clot, finally I took him in. The doctor he saw I just loved! They ended up having to cauterize it and get vitamin K shots because of the blood loss. The doctor said that they started to do it in the hospitals with a babies only a few days for convenience. The doctors/hospitals made more money and parents were less apt to have the procedure if they had to bring the baby back. I also have to wonder if a parent is less apt to do it if they have had a few weeks to bond with the baby, rather than right after birth. The doctor also said that babies should not have it done before about 12 days old. It takes that long for their blood to have the proper properties to clot like its suppose to.

                        My hubby is not. He's never really had any issues besides being the only one in his peer group without one. At the time his parents were considered "hippies". He was born at home. He never really went to a normal physician unless it was to receive immunizations (only becasue the school required them) until he was an adult and enrolled in the military. Otherwise he went to the herbalist for most ailments.

                        If I had to do it over or had another boy, I probably would not.

                        On the other hand, I have had 2 DCBs that have had to go have them done at an older age. One was 4 and the other was 8. They seemed in alot more pain and discomfort than the 2 week old.

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                        • DBug
                          Daycare Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 934

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Michael
                          Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't female circumcision supposed to have the opposite effect to sensation? They are not the same thing at all.

                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation
                          Yeah, I agree -- I believe female circumcision is done more to restrict the girl's "experiences" later on in life, but the comparison has been made before.

                          If you think about it, you're removing the analogous body part -- the only difference is that the "patient" is female rather than male. Sounds like discrimination to me ...

                          Thing is, why would you cut anything (besides their hair or nails) off your kids with no reason? You wouldn't remove their tonsils at birth on the off-chance that they might get tonsilitis later in life ...
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                          • CheekyChick
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 810

                            #43
                            I don't have boys, but we have DCB's who are uncircumcised here and I (personally) don't like the look. I would feel horrible for these boys when they grow up and possibly want the surgery. Ouch.

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                            • Country Kids
                              Nature Lover
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 5051

                              #44
                              The little boys that do have in later when they are still children, what are the reasons for doing it. I know some have said medical so wouldn't it have saved them the pain and possible embarrasement to have it done when they were babies?
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                              • Blackcat31
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 36124

                                #45
                                2 decades of doing child care and I have only had one boy who was uncircumsized.

                                His mother didn't have it done at birth because the father hadn't had it done so they said it was a family thing. Mom broke up with dad when daycare boy was 2.5 yrs old.

                                First thing she did after leaving dad was have her son circumsized.

                                Other than that, I have had NO boys here who have not been circumsized.

                                I had my son done simply because it was something that was just done then, I guess I honestly don't recall even being asked about it.

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