Unbelieveable, What are They Thinking?

[mac60]

And guess who peed themself. Right thru his panties and drenched the pullup. I stood him in the bathtub and made him take them off and put in plastic bag, then use wipes to wipe himself off, then put another pullup on. No more cloth panties here. Pullup only. He proved to me, and I already knew it, he is not ready at all.

[momma2girls]

And guess who peed themself. Right thru his panties and drenched the pullup. I stood him in the bathtub and made him take them off and put in plastic bag, then use wipes to wipe himself off, then put another pullup on. No more cloth panties here. Pullup only. He proved to me, and I already knew it, he is not ready at all.

Yes, I just love it when parents tell you that!! I have had it many times, til I clarified things alot better in my contract!!!!

[mamajennleigh]

I'm so sorry you are having to deal with that, Mac. I had hoped maybe he would magically potty train himself for you today Stand firm, you know he's not ready, and his mom probably knows it too. I think what a previous poster said about the mom wanting YOU to potty train the boy is spot-on.

[grandmom]

Similar story here Mac60. My dcmom brought child in on Monday in underwear with absolutely no notice or conversation. That was when I had a price break at toilet trained, and it was no surprise it was the first of the month. She wrote the check for the lesser amount. Changed that policy immediately. Now the price break is age age 3.

It's a tough conversation to have. There is no other time that we tell children they MUST do something that they are not developmentally ready for. We don't tell them they can't have a 4th birthday till they can write their name perfectly. We don't tell them they can't have a 5th birthday till they can ride a 2-wheeler. Only toilet training.

Good luck with your conversation tonight.

[momma2girls]

Similar story here Mac60. My dcmom brought child in on Monday in underwear with absolutely no notice or conversation. That was when I had a price break at toilet trained, and it was no surprise it was the first of the month. She wrote the check for the lesser amount. Changed that policy immediately. Now the price break is age age 3.

It's a tough conversation to have. There is no other time that we tell children they MUST do something that they are not developmentally ready for. We don't tell them they can't have a 4th birthday till they can write their name perfectly. We don't tell them they can't have a 5th birthday till they can ride a 2-wheeler. Only toilet training.

Good luck with your conversation tonight.

TOo funny!!!! Never thought of that. I have a $10.00 price difference a week, when they are totally potty trained myself!! I guess I will make the decision on totally potty trained or not, not the parents, for sure!!!!!!

[nannyde]

Similar story here Mac60. My dcmom brought child in on Monday in underwear with absolutely no notice or conversation. That was when I had a price break at toilet trained, and it was no surprise it was the first of the month. She wrote the check for the lesser amount. Changed that policy immediately. Now the price break is age age 3.

It's a tough conversation to have. There is no other time that we tell children they MUST do something that they are not developmentally ready for. We don't tell them they can't have a 4th birthday till they can write their name perfectly. We don't tell them they can't have a 5th birthday till they can ride a 2-wheeler. Only toilet training.

Good luck with your conversation tonight.

NO price break for toilet trained. All you are doing is a bunch of work to potty train them just to get a cut in pay when they are trained. You also get parents just deciding what their version of "potty trained" is.

I don't give a price cut for any age. I charge the same for babies as I do for five year olds. I think babies are easier. If anything I want a raise when they hit three. To me, they are way more work when they are bigger.

Maybe the thing to do is to RAISE rates when they are potty trained. That would put a stop to the parents wanting to do it too young. A ten dollar a week hike when they are trained would cover the cost of diapers should they claim they are trained when they aren't.

[judytrickett]

I don't give a price cut for any age. I charge the same for babies as I do for five year olds. I think babies are easier. If anything I want a raise when they hit three. To me, they are way more work when they are bigger.

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Same here. The price for a spot is the price regardless of age. When they are young they are more work (IMO) so you should get paid for that. When they are older they eat more and use resources like water for flushing the toilet and washing hands etc.

All in all they either use up time or resources and both are worth money to me.

[nannyde]

Same here. The price for a spot is the price regardless of age. When they are young they are more work (IMO) so you should get paid for that. When they are older they eat more and use resources like water for flushing the toilet and washing hands etc.

All in all they either use up time or resources and both are worth money to me.

I never understand why people think toddlers and preschoolers are easier than babies. I would do a house full of babies if the State would let me. I would get two full naptimes every day!!!!!! I'm in.

I get them on the Nan Plan toot sweet and bam.. easy as pie. Once they have an opinion.. not so easy.

Cradle care.. my dream job. Eight high paying babies from birth to 18 months, a great staff assistant and then off they go only to be replaced by the next newborn.

In my dreams.

[Crystal]

I am the same...no price break and infants are the same rate as my preschool children.

And I NEVER let parents tell me when it's time to potty train. I KNOW when it's time and generally my kids are trained in two to three days, no potty pants here

I'm lucky though, parents never question me about it, they just trust me to know what I am doing.

[QualiTcare]

it's frustrating when parents expect you to potty train ALONE. i've had parents bring their kids to daycare wearing a diaper, and ask for them to have a diaper on when they leave so they didn't have an accident at the store or in the car. YET they send underwear/panties for them wear while they're with me.

but i also know when a kid stays at daycare the majority of the day, every day, it's hard for them to be accident free without a LOT of help from the daycare provider. i don't think you can ask a 3 year old if they need to go and take their word for it. most 3 year olds eat boogers and...pee in their pants. taking them every hour on the hour does wonders..if they want to go or not.

everyone has their own beliefs, but i don't think kids can potty train (not before they are "ready" anyway) without being forced to be uncomfortable, and that means wearing underwear and having to feel the mess. pull ups are just too much like diapers.

[momofboys]

Last Week: Mom keeps mentioning to 3 yr old that after Friday no more diapers. Claims have been pottytraining at home. So last week, everyday, I ask 3 yr old every hour on the hour if he has to pee, and he always tells me no, never peed in the potty once, peed in his diaper, yes, diaper, several times each day. Then on Friday, mom says to 3 yr old that after the diapers are gone, no more, big boy panties. I am like---I don't think so, not here anyways.

I told my hubby I wonder if she will bring him in cloth pants on Monday, and if she does, no way in hell will I leave them on him.

So fast forward to Monday morning.......Mom says 3 yr old has big boy pants on. I am thinking there is no way in hell I am leaving cloth pants on your child to pee all over my house. He is not ready at all. He will not tell me he has to pee, he tells me he is dry when he is wet, he has never sat on my toilet and went pee in my house, why would you send him in cloth pants. I must of had a "look" on my face, because she said something, and my response was "I will put a pullup over his cloth pants, because I don't normally let the kids go to cloth pants until they go 2 weeks of no accidents with them telling me they have to go potty on their own. That is....not me asking, them telling and knowing they have to pee and understanding we don't pee our pants.

Ok, what is wrong with parents, that they would bring a child to daycare in cloth pants, when the child clearly does not understand the concept of peeing in the toilet.

So I take the boy into the bathroom and sit him on the toilet, leave him there for about 3 minutes, come back and ask him if he peed, he says yes, but I know that he didn't, there was no pee in that toilet, not a dribble. He lies all the time. If he pees his pants he lies and says he didn't, etc. So he has a pull up over his pants, and I will take him every little bit. But no way in hell will he be in my home in cloth training pants. Really, unbeleiveable.

Did you ever ask about his "progress" at home? Such as how many times has he went on the potty for you? Mom said they were training at home but it doesn't seem that way to me.

[mac60]

When she came in Monday, she said he did good over the weekend, only a few accidents. That is about all that was said. She did bring a pack of pullups this morning. But having a few accidents at daycare in cloth pants in not acceptable here. Hopefully today will go better.

[momofboys]

Glad she brought you some pull-ups. Hope today goes better!

[DBug]

everyone has their own beliefs, but i don't think kids can potty train (not before they are "ready" anyway) without being forced to be uncomfortable, and that means wearing underwear and having to feel the mess. pull ups are just too much like diapers.

I agree with this. My own kids didn't train until I threw away the pull-ups. I don't know what I would have done if they were in daycare 5 days a week. Most parents can't take vacation time just to toilet-train at home, and alot of kids take more than just a few days.

Right now my own daughter is in cloth training pants with a diaper cover, as per my policy. We do potty time every hour, and of course I'll take her on her own if she needs to go. I also don't have a problem with cloth diapers though, and I see the training pants as basically the same thing. As long as they have a waterproof cover, I don't have a problem with it.

I may ruffle some feathers with this, but I'll say it anyway Aren't we supposed to be caring for kids in whatever way they need? If that means toilet training with cloth underwear, then that's what it means. Parents need to understand though, that they need to provide waterproof covers, and that they may be taking home a bag of messy clothes and underwear everyday

I do tell parents that they shouldn't expect their kids to be toilet trained by what goes on here, but that potty time is something all walkers do, all at the same time. It's just part of our routine.

[My4SunshineGirlsNY]

I feel your frustrations...I had a daycare boy (who I let go a few months ago) that was 4 and not trained...he was on meds as he had a liver transplant that made his bowels extreemly loose. Well the mom brought him in underwear, no pull up, and he was CLEARLY not ready...he peed on my kitchen chair that has cloth on it! AND he peed on the floor....one time I had him on the toilet and he didn't go..I got busy with the after school kids and he put his pants back on with NO underwear and pooped on my carpet!! It came out his pants when he stood up from a sitting position!!

I was so furious...mom said he was doing so well at home...blah blah..he was so stubborn with me!! I could have him sit on the potty and 2min. later he is peeing or pooping in his pants. He was let go due to behavior issues.