I Know FT Takes Priority Over PT, But...

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  • Mary Poppins
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 403

    I Know FT Takes Priority Over PT, But...

    I found this in another thread: "Full time takes priority -- end of story. It is spelled out in her contract."

    Right now, I verbally tell all of my clients I have a "totem pole" of priority - those who pay a month in advance and are ft are basically locked into their spots and it goes down from there. Pt'ers who pay a week at a time are my lowest priority.

    Should I add this in writing into the contract/handbook, I wonder? :confused:

    Just trying to cover all my bases.
  • Cat Herder
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 13744

    #2
    That is pretty confusing......:confused: It will require too many conversations.

    Less information is better.

    IMHO, YOU know who your priority clients are, that should be enough.

    Any client with a bit of common sense will know that if they are only willing to pay for two days they could potentially lose their slot to someone willing to pay for five.

    Simple supply and demand.
    - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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    • Mom&Provider
      Daycare.com Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 378

      #3
      YES! This was in my topic and yes...add it if this is how you feel!!

      As you saw in my post, I added it after I had a couple of families and now am faced with telling a p/t family that I would prefer a f/t one...this statement would really help me right now!!

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      • cheerfuldom
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 7413

        #4
        Just because something is not in your contract does not mean that you cannot tell a family that you are letting them go in order to have a place for a full timer.

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        • kayla
          New Daycare.com Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 298

          #5
          Thats why i love the clause in my contract stating i can terminate at any time without notice..

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          • littlemommy
            Daycare.com Member
            • May 2011
            • 568

            #6
            I also take into consideration how well the child fits with the rest of the group and how the parents treat me/my business. Right now I have a ft'er whose mom has chosen not to respect my rules or my home. If I didn't know I'd be moving this summer, I would term her for a pt'er.

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            • My3cents
              Daycare.com Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 3387

              #7
              Originally posted by kayla
              Thats why i love the clause in my contract stating i can terminate at any time without notice..
              I don't know if I like this or not-

              I have mixed feelings on this statement. Anyone else?

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              • Meeko
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 4349

                #8
                Originally posted by My3cents
                I don't know if I like this or not-

                I have mixed feelings on this statement. Anyone else?
                It's my house. If I don't want them in it.....bye bye!

                I too have it in my contract that I can term without notice. If someone is rude to me and treats me like dirt, I am not about to continue providing service to them. I show them the door.....on the spot. I think it's important. You need to protect your business and family. You never know if you are going to get some crazy person sign up, or a child who decides to destroy your home. You MUST have the power to kick them out on the spot if necessary. My contract actually states, that under most circumstances, I will give two weeks notice, but that I reserve the right to immediate cancellation of service if I see fit.

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                • Blackcat31
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 36124

                  #9
                  Originally posted by kayla
                  Thats why i love the clause in my contract stating i can terminate at any time without notice..
                  Originally posted by My3cents
                  I don't know if I like this or not-

                  I have mixed feelings on this statement. Anyone else?
                  I would only have a problem with it if my child care provider was flaky and I felt as though she would term based on the color of my socks...kwim?

                  Most providers are professionals and act accordingly and the clause allowing immediate termination is generally used as a last resort for dangerous or "bad" situations where it is just not safe or sane to allow a parent or child to return.

                  I don't think there are providers (few, if any) who abuse that clause. (My personal opinion)

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                  • familyschoolcare
                    Advanced Daycare.com Member
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 1284

                    #10
                    My termenation with out notice says

                    I can and will terminate our child care arrangements immediately for any of the following reasons (but not solely limited to):


                    -Harming anyone including but not limited to other children, other adults and myself by your child or one of their adults (including but not limited to Mom and Dad)


                    • Failure to comply with the contract.

                    • Destructive or hurtful behavior of child that persists even with parent cooperation in stopping the behavior.

                    • Non-Payment of childcare fees or late and/or recurring late payment of fees.

                    • Failure to complete required forms.

                    • Inability to meet the child’s needs without additional staff.

                    • Blatant disrespect towards provider or provider’s family.

                    • If parents knowingly bring their child ill.

                    • Disrespectful behavior of the neighborhood (myself and/or neighbor/s will determine what is disrespectful behavior)

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                    • MyAngels
                      Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 4217

                      #11
                      Oh boy, I'm going to go against the grain on this one .

                      Once I have agreed to take a family, whether they are FT or PT, I think that family has a right to expect that their spot is secure. If I only want FT families, then I feel like it's my obligation to leave a spot unfilled until I find that FT family. I feel like it would be unprofessional to take a PT family, only to boot them once a FT family comes along.

                      Of course, if a family is not following the rules or is disrespectful, etc., I would terminate our contract, but I would not do it simply because they are part-time.

                      JMHO.

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                      • JenNJ
                        Advanced Daycare.com Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 1212

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MyAngels
                        Oh boy, I'm going to go against the grain on this one .

                        Once I have agreed to take a family, whether they are FT or PT, I think that family has a right to expect that their spot is secure. If I only want FT families, then I feel like it's my obligation to leave a spot unfilled until I find that FT family. I feel like it would be unprofessional to take a PT family, only to boot them once a FT family comes along.

                        Of course, if a family is not following the rules or is disrespectful, etc., I would terminate our contract, but I would not do it simply because they are part-time.

                        JMHO.
                        I give my PT families a heads up during the interview and contract signing. If I have an interview for a FT family and I am considering signing them, I lay it out for the PT family. They can pay and use the full time space or consider this 2 weeks notice. Every part time family I ever said that to signed on for the FT spot.

                        It isn't mean or cruel. It is business and while I do care for my clients, I care more for my family's financial security. I will not give up thousands in income each year to appease a client's schedule.

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                        • Cat Herder
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 13744

                          #13
                          Originally posted by MyAngels
                          Oh boy, I'm going to go against the grain on this one .

                          Once I have agreed to take a family, whether they are FT or PT, I think that family has a right to expect that their spot is secure. If I only want FT families, then I feel like it's my obligation to leave a spot unfilled until I find that FT family. I feel like it would be unprofessional to take a PT family, only to boot them once a FT family comes along.

                          Of course, if a family is not following the rules or is disrespectful, etc., I would terminate our contract, but I would not do it simply because they are part-time.

                          JMHO.
                          I don't think that is against the grain. That is exactly why I don't accept part-time or drop-in clients.

                          It is known across our profession that part-time slots are not stable slots. Clients should already be aware of that.
                          - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                          • daycare
                            Advanced Daycare.com *********
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 16259

                            #14
                            Originally posted by My3cents
                            I don't know if I like this or not-

                            I have mixed feelings on this statement. Anyone else?
                            I understand what you are saying from a provider standpoint, but as a parents, that statement would not give me the confidence of security that my child will have a spot to go to each week.

                            How much notice do you give the parents when you do term?

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                            • daycare
                              Advanced Daycare.com *********
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 16259

                              #15
                              The only time that PT has priority over FT is when I have a FT open spot.

                              Example

                              If I have 3 families that all want part time have interviewed for my last full time spot and then I have one family that interviewed for it that wants full time, I would give it to the FT family first, also taking into consideration that they are a fit. It does not matter who I interviewed first, it goes to full time first.

                              The way you are stating it, it sounds like you are saying that if you have a child enrolled PT and then a family wants to interview for a full time spot, that you would let that PT child go so you could take the FT?? IPO, I don't think that's fair.

                              If you take a part time family, it will be up to you fill the other days of the week with another PT family. This is why I only take full time or if I can't fill the FT spot, I will allow a M_W_F or a T-H, this way two kids will take up a full time spot.

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