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  • sahm2three
    Daycare.com Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 1104

    #16
    Originally posted by nannyde
    How do you stay in compliance in numbers when she is not there?

    You have a terrible financial arrangement. I would NEVER give a staff assistant forty percent of tuition off the top. There's no way to make money.

    The twenty percent you leave yourself can't possibly cover hard costs much less the extra hours you work while the business is open.

    You need to put her on salary with minimum number of hours per week. Tell her you will do 35 hours a week for X dollars an hour. If she wants more hours she can earn them if you need her.

    If you are paying her a flat salary based on tuition and she gets that whether she actually works or not... you are begging her to call off and try to get the hours as small as you will allow without firing her. If that is the case she has a rockin deal and she's going to be livid when you say no more. Be prepared for some serious drama, a visit from the state, and some internet bashing. If you are out of compliance numbers wise if she doesn't show she will be able to get you inspected over capacity if she turns you in right away. Get a PLAN for an approved assistant BEFORE you let her go and get your house in order.

    How did you come up with a 60/40 split?

    I had a friend who did a similiar split with a co-provider (but not as bad for her money wise as your deal) and she had a TON of problems. It ended really badly. https://www.daycare.com/nannyde/the-...ant-part-4.htm
    Two days a week we have quiet days with usually only 5 kids here, and we actually are down a couple kids after the drama a couple weeks ago, so even without her, I am in compliance. As far as the 60/40 split, we came up with that so that it was pretty even after paying bills. She is supposed to make it so that I can attend my children's school stuff and take them to and from school.

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    • sahm2three
      Daycare.com Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 1104

      #17
      Originally posted by icaredaycare
      i'm not sure why you went off on cheerfuldom. she was just trying to help. I'm not sure what other issues you are going through, but we are all on the forum as a support group.

      as for the 60/40 split, how is that contracted? is it on paper? it really doesn't seem fair on your end. you have cost of building (ur home) to consider. Also the extra hours u put in, the numbers don't look right to me.
      Because that is always being shoved down my throat. No matter how many times I am posting in support of someone or posting cute stories in the funny thread, I always get called out for "having issues".

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      • Sprouts
        Licensed Provider
        • Dec 2010
        • 846

        #18
        I took nanny dees advice and hired a Young and energetic enthusiastic 19 year old and she has been awesome! I worked with my sister in law who same as yours constantly complained, always showed up late or not at all and basically cut her hours to 0 or just when needed.

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        • Cat Herder
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 13744

          #19
          Originally posted by sahm2three
          Because that is always being shoved down my throat. No matter how many times I am posting in support of someone or posting cute stories in the funny thread, I always get called out for "having issues".
          OK, I had to look at your post history because I did not really think you have been targeted and was wondering what you were talking about. I have not been on my A game lately and figured I must have missed something.

          Is it possible that you are a bit oversensitive to it because you know what they are saying is true? Your posts are escalating, you are stressed, you have a screamer, a colicky infant, an irresponsible assistant, a licensing citation PLUS a recently termed client who is bad mouthing you all over the place.

          You have been facing burnout....who wouldn't under those circumstances???? I'd be running screaming through the streets

          They are trying to help. THAT is what the forum is for. Nobody is judging you....we FEEL for you and want to help.
          - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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          • countrymom
            Daycare.com Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 4874

            #20
            sorry but who tagged this provider burn out risk, I find it kinda rude. We all have issues, heck I complain all the time about the one girl and poopy pull up girl but I come here to vent because dh isn't home. Just because we complain about the same kids doesn't mean we are going to have a burn out.

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            • sahm2three
              Daycare.com Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 1104

              #21
              Originally posted by Catherder
              OK, I had to look at your post history because I did not really think you have been targeted and was wondering what you were talking about. I have not been on my A game lately and figured I must have missed something.

              Is it possible that you are a bit oversensitive to it because you know what they are saying is true? Your posts are escalating, you are stressed, you have a screamer, a colicky infant, an irresponsible assistant, a licensing citation PLUS a recently termed client who is bad mouthing you all over the place.

              You have been facing burnout....who wouldn't under those circumstances???? I'd be running screaming through the streets

              They are trying to help. THAT is what the forum is for. Nobody is judging you....we FEEL for you and want to help.
              I have no licensing citation. I got a GLOWING report. But I give advice and support, but when I ask for support or advice in return, it is constantly, "your posts are escalating". From reading on here lately, it sounds like a whole lot of providers are going thru the same stressers that I am, but I feel like I am the one called out on it all the time. That's all. Yes, I am stressed, but things have been so much better since I termed the problem family.

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              • Cat Herder
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 13744

                #22
                Originally posted by countrymom
                sorry but who tagged this provider burn out risk, I find it kinda rude.
                Again...it is not rude.

                It links you to OTHER threads like this one where people give valuable advice.

                STRESS is a KNOWN Provider Burnout Risk.

                It is about forum archives......NOT labeling a person.
                - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                • sahm2three
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 1104

                  #23
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                  • Cat Herder
                    Advanced Daycare.com Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 13744

                    #24
                    Originally posted by sahm2three
                    I have no licensing citation. .
                    I am sorry...you are right. That thread was started by someone else...My mistake. I read through them pretty fast.

                    When I first came here I vented alot...I was stressed and that was why I came looking for an online forum... I was about to close the doors for good.

                    I got a lot of great advice and now I rarely need to vent. I know I got pretty upset when folks told me what I needed to hear, instead of what I wanted to hear at first. ::::
                    - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                    • Angelwings36
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 436

                      #25
                      I also come to this site to vent. I'm sure some may think that I am a burn out risk too for the amount of "venting threads" I have posted. Actually, at one point I was in a really low place but I was able to bring myself back up with the support of those around me and this site. OP I hope that you don't stop posting just because a few have narrowed you out as being a "potential burnout", I think it is so harsh to judge someone like that, especially someone you don't even know.

                      I also think some of the posters should word their advice a little different. Telling someone you think they can't handle the amount of children they have is not a good way to give advice, it's actually insulting and I would be really upset if someone said that to me too. I understand the whole "she asked for advice, we give advice" but wording goes a long way....

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                      • MommyofThree
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 219

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Catherder
                        OK, I had to look at your post history because I did not really think you have been targeted and was wondering what you were talking about. I have not been on my A game lately and figured I must have missed something.

                        Is it possible that you are a bit oversensitive to it because you know what they are saying is true? Your posts are escalating, you are stressed, you have a screamer, a colicky infant, an irresponsible assistant, a licensing citation PLUS a recently termed client who is bad mouthing you all over the place.

                        You have been facing burnout....who wouldn't under those circumstances???? I'd be running screaming through the streets

                        They are trying to help. THAT is what the forum is for. Nobody is judging you....we FEEL for you and want to help.
                        It seems like ur the only one that keeps bringing this subject up!!!! Just let it go. Who cares . Let her feel like it, you just keep instigating the situation

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                        • Cat Herder
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 13744

                          #27
                          Originally posted by melissathayer28
                          It seems like ur the only one that keeps bringing this subject up!!!! Just let it go. Who cares . Let her feel like it, you just keep instigating the situation
                          WTH are you talking about????????
                          - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                          • Blackcat31
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 36124

                            #28
                            Originally posted by melissathayer28
                            It seems like ur the only one that keeps bringing this subject up!!!! Just let it go. Who cares . Let her feel like it, you just keep instigating the situation
                            Why are you finger pointing at Catherder?!?! She is actually helping, NOT making things worse. She is definitely not instigating anything.

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                            • MommyofThree
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 219

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Catherder
                              WTH are you talking about????????
                              Well with out speaking to another person that way I'll tell you. Please no dram though she asked for advise and someone commented about her being stress or what ever . I really didn't pay that much attention because it didn't seem that rude but sahm thought it was, which ok she commented, no biggy but then you just kept posting about it and even investigated and put some of her post up and pretty mush said yes you are stressed and bla bla srry, I can't remember the exact convo , I really don't comment on stuff that is confrontational but i feel for her I get stressed ,not from kids but from parents and assistants and so forth. But sorry I didn't mean to offend you in any way I just feel for sahm.

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                              • MommyofThree
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 219

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Blackcat31
                                Why are you finger pointing at Catherder?!?! She is actually helping, NOT making things worse. She is definitely not instigating anything.
                                Ok srry , just my own thoughts. May I have them:confused: just what I seen. No biggy let's not start an augment .

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