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  • littlemommy
    Daycare.com Member
    • May 2011
    • 568

    That Didn't Go So Well...

    I had a daycare parent who I termed a while back (you may remember the over-medicated child?) She texted me a few days ago wondering if I was sending her tax info. I gave my tax person a call, because I didn't know how to do it since she paid me with (suspected forged) checks from her ex-boyfriend (not baby's father.) My tax person said to give her the info but that he should file it since it was paid by him. I texted her today and told her that.

    She said it was her money in his checking acct and that it's none of my damn business. "you don't know my life so you better shut up," "stay out of my life" were a few more phrases she threw at me. I said let's be civil I will get it to you. She replied "you better send it to me and it better be in my name. There is nothing to be civil about."

    Was I wrong to relay the message that he should claim it? I guess I was just looking out for her in case she would get audited. Oh well, not my problem I guess. Glad I'm done with this woman!
  • Blackcat31
    • Oct 2010
    • 36124

    #2
    Hun, you aren't required to give her a total of anything. She is required by law to submit a W-10 to you and you have to sign it but you do not have to give any year end totals to her. That was her job to keep track of.

    Read this article, it explains alot. http://www.tomcopelandblog.com/2011/...-receipts.html
    Last edited by Michael; 01-25-2012, 09:57 PM.

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    • daycare
      Advanced Daycare.com *********
      • Feb 2011
      • 16259

      #3
      Originally posted by littlemommy
      I had a daycare parent who I termed a while back (you may remember the over-medicated child?) She texted me a few days ago wondering if I was sending her tax info. I gave my tax person a call, because I didn't know how to do it since she paid me with (suspected forged) checks from her ex-boyfriend (not baby's father.) My tax person said to give her the info but that he should file it since it was paid by him. I texted her today and told her that.

      She said it was her money in his checking acct and that it's none of my damn business. "you don't know my life so you better shut up," "stay out of my life" were a few more phrases she threw at me. I said let's be civil I will get it to you. She replied "you better send it to me and it better be in my name. There is nothing to be civil about."

      Was I wrong to relay the message that he should claim it? I guess I was just looking out for her in case she would get audited. Oh well, not my problem I guess. Glad I'm done with this woman!
      YOu are correct, however, just give her the information and let her file. More than likely she will get audited. NOt your PROBLEM.

      When I have people start and they are having someone else pay for childcare, like grandma or someone else, I tell them from day one. If you plain on claiming your child on your taxes, the payments have to come from you. I tell them cash works best for these types of situations or to have the person pay them and then they pay me....

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      • littlemommy
        Daycare.com Member
        • May 2011
        • 568

        #4
        Blackcat- I read that article and he recommends not giving info unless they have paid in full. She still owes me $64 dollars from the week I termed. She'll fight like a dog with rabies if I tell her that, though.

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        • Blackcat31
          • Oct 2010
          • 36124

          #5
          Originally posted by littlemommy
          Blackcat- I read that article and he recommends not giving info unless they have paid in full. She still owes me $64 dollars from the week I termed. She'll fight like a dog with rabies if I tell her that, though.
          Let her. She has to follow rules like everyone else. If she doesn't present the proper form then she gets nothing.

          If you aren't up to dealing with her, send her the EIN/SS # and tell her you don't keep track of year end totals for each individual family. Or if your feeling really ornery, you could tell her you will try to figure out the total and then take a loooong time or send the info to the dad and tell her to get it from him.

          If she tries to come to your house...all the police.

          I hate these kind of volitile parents.

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          • VTMom
            Daycare.com Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 371

            #6
            If you feel the need to give her that information, is there any reason you can't write up something like "2011 daycare fees paid for little Johnny = $"? I usually do something like that along with my TIN.

            That way you aren't indicating who paid, just how much. I'm not sure if there's a reason why you couldn't (anybody?).

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            • littlemommy
              Daycare.com Member
              • May 2011
              • 568

              #7
              Originally posted by Blackcat31
              Let her. She has to follow rules like everyone else. If she doesn't present the proper form then she gets nothing.

              If you aren't up to dealing with her, send her the EIN/SS # and tell her you don't keep track of year end totals for each individual family. Or if your feeling really ornery, you could tell her you will try to figure out the total and then take a loooong time or send the info to the dad and tell her to get it from him.

              If she tries to come to your house...all the police.

              I hate these kind of volitile parents.
              So should I text her saying she will get the info when she is paid in full? UGH I hate arguments but I want to do things right for everybody...including myself! When I asked my tax person the other day he said that I could get in trouble by not sending her the info requested.

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              • MN Day Mom
                Daycare.com Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 246

                #8
                I don't care who is paying for the child's care, as long as I am getting paid on time and the check clears. I give the receipt to the contracted person regardless who wrote out the check.

                For your own safety in regards to an audit, I would have her come to your house to pick up her receipt, and have her sign a copy for your records, to make sure she only claims the correct amount.

                I always total for my parents and get a signed copy... for my own audit protection

                Good Luck with this one!

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                • Blackcat31
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 36124

                  #9
                  Originally posted by littlemommy
                  So should I text her saying she will get the info when she is paid in full? UGH I hate arguments but I want to do things right for everybody...including myself! When I asked my tax person the other day he said that I could get in trouble by not sending her the info requested.
                  You could tell her that...but like you said she will probably pitch a fit but if she owes you the money, I would not have a problem trying to get what's owed first.

                  I have heard a lot of people (tax preparers and others) tell me I HAD to give a year end total but even the IRS website says we only have to give the W-10 and do not have to total anything up for anyone. I called them too just to be sure. They said the same thing when I called too.

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                  • Blackcat31
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 36124

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MN Day Mom
                    I don't care who is paying for the child's care, as long as I am getting paid on time and the check clears. I give the receipt to the contracted person regardless who wrote out the check.

                    For your own safety in regards to an audit, I would have her come to your house to pick up her receipt, and have her sign a copy for your records, to make sure she only claims the correct amount. If you gave a receipt at the time of each payment then it doesn't matter what the parent claims. Even if it is erroneous, you have receipts to prove your income.

                    I always total for my parents and get a signed copy... for my own audit protection

                    Good Luck with this one!
                    I answered in bold above.

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                    • littlemommy
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • May 2011
                      • 568

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Blackcat31
                      Hun, you aren't required to give her a total of anything. She is required by law to submit a W-10 to you and you have to sign it but you do not have to giv enay year end totals to her. That was her job to keep track of.

                      Read this article, it explains alot. http://www.tomcopelandblog.com/2011/...-receipts.html
                      Let me get this straight...she should be the one giving me a W-10? She was the one asking me to send one to her.

                      I'm still new to this. Last year I just gave my parents (who were all GREAT!) my Identification # and a total that they paid and that was good enough. I'm so confused and don't know what to do. :confused: This woman is making the end of my short maternity leave stressful.

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                      • daycare
                        Advanced Daycare.com *********
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 16259

                        #12
                        Originally posted by littlemommy
                        Let me get this straight...she should be the one giving me a W-10? She was the one asking me to send one to her.

                        I'm still new to this. Last year I just gave my parents (who were all GREAT!) my Identification # and a total that they paid and that was good enough. I'm so confused and don't know what to do. :confused: This woman is making the end of my short maternity leave stressful.
                        i send mine out, one that I was not on good terms with I sent theirs certified mail with required signature...

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                        • littlemommy
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • May 2011
                          • 568

                          #13
                          Originally posted by daycare
                          i send mine out, one that I was not on good terms with I sent theirs certified mail with required signature...
                          so since we are not on good terms, should i let her figure it out and send it to me?

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                          • daycare
                            Advanced Daycare.com *********
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 16259

                            #14
                            Originally posted by littlemommy
                            so since we are not on good terms, should i let her figure it out and send it to me?
                            depends on what you want to do..

                            If it were me, I would just send it so that I could get it over with and not have to deal with the person any more. I just don't like to fight people even if I am right...

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                            • grandmom
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 766

                              #15
                              Tell her she needs to come pick it up so she can sign for it for your accountant. Then on the page put a statement that says she acknowledges she has an outstanding balance of $64. After she signs, you keep the original and make a copy for her. Then take her to small claims court.

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