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  • AnneCordelia
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 816

    #16
    My contract says, "I retain the right to enforce these policies at my discretion. Lack of enforcement of a certain policy at any given time does not indicate that the particular policy is no longer in effect."

    I tell my parents straight-up at the interviews that if it's in my handbook then you can expect that I will enforce it.

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    • Nellie
      Daycare.com Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 259

      #17
      I've seen on a few court tv shows where a DC providers comes in and is sueing for ate payment fee's, late pick up fee's, and no 2 week notice for termination. I've seen where the DC provider tries to recoup some of the late payment fee's or late pick up fees that occured through out the childs time at the daycare. And if the DC provider never tried getting them out of the family and continued doing buisness for months or years later that they couldn't go back and sue for it. In this show the DC provider didn't even get the no 2 week notice. Family was able to show that the DC provider wasn't doing her job and wasn't safe place for child.

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      • MarinaVanessa
        Family Childcare Home
        • Jan 2010
        • 7211

        #18
        I came in a little late in the conversation but I thought I'd put in my own 2 cents. Here's what I have in my contract:

        "I understand that a temporary or permanent waiver of any provision of this agreement does not constitute the waiver of any other provision in this contract or policy handbook and must be agreed to and made in writing by [name]."

        (I have it at the end of the contract where the parent signs)

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        • Rachel
          Daycare.com Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 605

          #19
          As far as the late fee, you can also automatically waive it the first X number of times. I had my late fee written in 15 minute increments, but each parent got 3 free passes per year (they signed off they were late and it was a free pass). That was I was enforcing my fee, but I still gave my families some leeway for stuff happens we can't control.

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          • PitterPatter
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 1507

            #20
            Originally posted by daycare
            Earlier there was a good point brought up about voiding your own contract when you forgive one of your policies.

            Example, when you state in your policy that you charge $1.00 per min late fee and you chose to waive it for the family who is hardly ever late, then you are actually voiding your own policy.

            here is the definition of voided policy.....

            Definition
            A contract that meets any of the following criteria:
            (1) it is illegal from the moment it is made; (2) it is legal but declared null by the courts because it violates a fundamental principle such as fairness, or is contrary to public policy; (3) it becomes void due to changes in law or in government policy; or (4) it has been fully performed.
            Lack of capacity to contract (such as arises from being an infant or minor, intoxicated, or insane) automatically makes a contract void. A contract that is void only in one or few parts may be saved by the process of severance. Not to be confused with voidable contract.

            Question is how do you word it in your policy that if you decide to waive or forgive or oversee one of your policies, that it will not void your contract.

            HELP!!

            anyone have advice on this??
            Oh no this is what I have is it good enough? Should I reword it?

            Failure by the provider to enforce one or more of the terms of the contract does not waive the right of the provider to enforce any other terms of the contract.

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            • Cat Herder
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 13744

              #21
              Pitter, yours sounds good. I considered one like it a while back.

              I just went the " individual paragraph" route because of the fear a small claims court judge would have the view point of "The policy should work both ways". It is a southern custom.... and a pretty general viewpoint, here.

              I'd expect him/her to say that due to that statement a parent refusing to pay the late pick-up fees does not void the written termination policy and I'd have to provide services for the two week notification regardless... YKWIM?

              I like my "No Pay- No Stay" so I protect it tooth and nail.
              - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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              • PitterPatter
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 1507

                #22
                Originally posted by Catherder
                Pitter, yours sounds good. I considered one like it a while back.

                I just went the " individual paragraph" route because of the fear a small claims court judge would have the view point of "The policy should work both ways". It is a southern custom.... and a pretty general viewpoint, here.

                I'd expect him/her to say that due to that statement a parent refusing to pay the late pick-up fees does not void the written termination policy and I'd have to provide services for the two week notification regardless... YKWIM?

                I like my "No Pay- No Stay" so I protect it tooth and nail.
                Thanks. I love the short and sweet statemnets in a contract like your "No pay no stay" NannyD I think has one also maybe for the late pick up? "Don't do it" I think it was ::

                Unfortunatly I have parents pick things apart and try to avoid policies (those that even bother to read it anyway) and so every year at least I am adding more and more so they can't use certain excuses again.

                Here I am actually making a new amedndment to the contract this week again giving MORE details to a particular illness so parents can't squeeze by.

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                • Cat Herder
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 13744

                  #23
                  Originally posted by PitterPatter
                  Thanks. I love the short and sweet statements in a contract like your "No pay no stay" NannyD I think has one also maybe for the late pick up? "Don't do it" I think it was ::

                  Unfortunately I have parents pick things apart and try to avoid policies (those that even bother to read it anyway) and so every year at least I am adding more and more so they can't use certain excuses again.

                  Here I am actually making a new amendment to the contract this week again giving MORE details to a particular illness so parents can't squeeze by.
                  I admit, I like to find loopholes in things, too (like the BOOKS of regs :. It is kind of fun... I guess that is why mine is so deliberate? IDK...

                  Have you thought of just printing out the CDC poster? The one they use for training us. That is what I give out.... I have them follow those guidelines and enforce it by having a mandatory 48 hours out if I have to send them home.

                  It works like a dream. I have MINIMUM illness policy issues... NONE purposeful, anymore.

                  A simple FAQ section also works very well....fewer words...fewer loopholes. happyface My policy is down to 4 double spaced pages (9 paragraphs). The first thing to go was most of the "WHY'S?". They don't need to know why I set my policies...they just need to know WHAT I need from them to be happy and smiling at the door everytime they see me.
                  - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                  • bice99
                    Parent and Provider
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 376

                    #24
                    Anyone have a link to the CDC poster? And I need to add the 48 if sent home sick and being notified of ANY meds given within 6 hours prior to drop off.

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                    • Cat Herder
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 13744

                      #25
                      I think you have to buy those. I print mine for free offline. Most States have one.

                      I just found this one... It was the most current one I found, so far.

                      - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                      • bice99
                        Parent and Provider
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 376

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Catherder
                        I think you have to buy those. I print mine for free offline. Most States have one.

                        I just found this one... It was the most current one I found, so far.

                        http://www.in.gov/isdh/files/Communi...Chart_2010.pdf
                        Thank you

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                        • renodeb
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 837

                          #27
                          I have in my contract that waiver of one policy does not constitute waiver of the entire contract.
                          Debbie

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