Rude Parent

[QualiTcare]

are there educated people who are completely stupid? absolutely!

do uneducated people make themselves look stupid by criticizing education? absolutely!

my husband (who owns a landscaping business, but can't spell the word landscaping) often tells me, "to be so smart, you sure are dumb!"

of course, he's joking (kind of) about me being educated and being dumb when it comes to things like, oh....stripes in a yard or how a motor works. i make fun of him for not being able to spell ANYTHING! it's all in good fun, of course.

i've said this before, but my grandmother (with almost no education - like 6th grade at best) who raised six children and helped raise 20 grandchildren knew more about kids than i did with a degree in Early Childhood. Education doesn't trump experience, but that doesn't mean education AND experience aren't super valuable.

ANYHOW - as far as the parent with a subsidy - she obviously can't afford daycare or she wouldn't have qualified for the subsidy. have you thought of contacting the agency to see if they would pay more since your rates have increased? often times they will pay more. i would ask to see if that would settle the problem first. also, not to excuse her attitude, but her attitude probably has a lot to do with the fact that she can't pay you - and was under the impression after 2.5 years that she was stable with her situation. from my experience, people with daycare assistance also receive food stamps, housing assistance, etc. i don't think there's anything wrong with that because obviously if they need childcare then at least they ARE working - but they are broke. an extra 5 or 10 bucks per week means an extra 20 or 40 per month. that can be a lot to someone who makes minimum wage and gets assistance. i had a landlord once who charged me 450 when my daughter's father and i were together. when she found out that we broke up, she told me i only had to give her 400. i was working as a waitress at pizza hut - and that 50 dollars made a big difference to me, even if it didn't to her (it paid my water bill, basically).

just try to put yourself in her shoes - even the shoes she was in when you first met and made an agreement. then, try to contact the agency who assists with daycare. that's just MY OPINION.

[Crystal]

WOW! Just WOW!

[missnikki]

are there educated people who are completely stupid? absolutely!

do uneducated people make themselves look stupid by criticizing education? absolutely!

Do educated people make themselves look bad when they brag? Absolutely!

It works both ways, girl. Uneducated people have the right to express their disapproval of education, and in my opinion, it does NOT 'make them look stupid'.
You seem to me to be a perfect example of someone who paid for brains solely for the purpose of bragging rights.
I have over a decade of education under my belt. I do not look down on anyone who does what we do well. I am remiss for the money I've paid, and have nothing but paper to show for it.
Get over yourself, honey.

[QualiTcare]

Do educated people make themselves look bad when they brag? Absolutely!

It works both ways, girl. Uneducated people have the right to express their disapproval of education, and in my opinion, it does NOT 'make them look stupid'.
You seem to me to be a perfect example of someone who paid for brains solely for the purpose of bragging rights.
I have over a decade of education under my belt. I do not look down on anyone who does what we do well. I am remiss for the money I've paid, and have nothing but paper to show for it.
Get over yourself, honey.

i don't see one thing in that post that was a "brag." i said there are stupid people that are educated. i also said when someone says education is "a waste of time" or "a piece of paper" they look equally stupid. why are people allowed to say that education is a waste of time, useless, etc. and it's okay? but when someone who disagrees, and god forbid is educated says NOT getting an education is a waste of time, etc. they are "bragging" or "being insulting" or "looking down on people." i find it insulting when people tell me i wasted my time and education means nothing. i also find it hilarious cus i know whoever says that knows they're full of it.

what's funny is that most people who show disapproval of the education system in general or think it's a "waste of time" usually went to college, but realized it was too much work so they quit.

and anyone who DID finish college - and ESPECIALLY if they went for over a decade would not look at their education as "nothing but paper." if that's the case, i would hate to think it took over a decade and thousands in debt before the realization that it was all for nothing.

i smell bologna.

[mac60]

I don't necessarily think it was just "one post" that was being pointed out, but a collection of many lately. jmo

[laundryduchess@yahoo.com]

good pizza,...

thats what my family always said around the dinner table when a conversation seemed to get a bit heated. We all respected and cared enough for the others to move on. =-)

[jen]

i don't see one thing in that post that was a "brag." i said there are stupid people that are educated. i also said when someone says education is "a waste of time" or "a piece of paper" they look equally stupid. why are people allowed to say that education is a waste of time, useless, etc. and it's okay? but when someone who disagrees, and god forbid is educated says NOT getting an education is a waste of time, etc. they are "bragging" or "being insulting" or "looking down on people." i find it insulting when people tell me i wasted my time and education means nothing. i also find it hilarious cus i know whoever says that knows they're full of it.

what's funny is that most people who show disapproval of the education system in general or think it's a "waste of time" usually went to college, but realized it was too much work so they quit.

and anyone who DID finish college - and ESPECIALLY if they went for over a decade would not look at their education as "nothing but paper." if that's the case, i would hate to think it took over a decade and thousands in debt before the realization that it was all for nothing.

i smell bologna.

Here is the deal...I don't recall anyone using the words "stupid" or other similar insults except in retaliation of your posts. You come off as rude and condescending and I think that many of the individuals on this board are becoming tired of your snobbery. I know I am.

And, as far as education being a waste of time. No, of course not. However, the biggest thing that I learned in college was to evaluate agruements from both sides, to try and look at every situation from a cultural and socio-economic standpoint before coming to conclusions and to refrain from using my set of values to evaluate others. It seems you've missed the boat.

[momofboys]

I think an education is important but not enough to "brag" about it. I will admit that I have mentioned that I have a degree (it's not ebven in Early Childhood Ed!) but I apologize if I offended anyone by "bragging" about it. That was never my inention. My only intent by mentioning it was that I sometimes feel looked down upon on here b/c I am not licensed (which is legal in my state). I feel sometimes that some providers think unlicensed means kids are set in front of the tv, fed McDonald's & not looked after properly. That is the only reason I ever mentioned it. I'm sorry if I ever made anyone feel bad.

[jen]

I think an education is important but not enough to "brag" about it. I will admit that I have mentioned that I have a degree (it's not ebven in Early Childhood Ed!) but I apologize if I offended anyone by "bragging" about it. That was never my inention. My only intent by mentioning it was that I sometimes feel looked down upon on here b/c I am not licensed (which is legal in my state). I feel sometimes that some providers think unlicensed means kids are set in front of the tv, fed McDonald's & not looked after properly. That is the only reason I ever mentioned it. I'm sorry if I ever made anyone feel bad.

I don't think anyone is referring to you!!! I know that I am not AT All!!!!

[mac60]

I don't think anyone is referring to you!!! I know that I am not AT All!!!!

Me Either!

[TGT09]

My only intent by mentioning it was that I sometimes feel looked down upon on here b/c I am not licensed (which is legal in my state). I feel sometimes that some providers think unlicensed means kids are set in front of the tv, fed McDonald's & not looked after properly. That is the only reason I ever mentioned it. I'm sorry if I ever made anyone feel bad.

I agree with this and we're from the same state. I definitely do not set my kids in front of a t.v. but do I have a ECE degree or any other? NOPE. But do I have serious common sense AND years of experiece? YES! That is the equivalent to me in this industry and whether anyone else agrees with my opinion, I really don't give a rat's patooty! :-) And, no I'm not pointing fingers but there has been some serious drama "within" this board lately. I get heated pretty quickly myself so I can't even say I don't partake but somewhere there has to be a fine line of saying "let's agree to disagree" and respect one another!

[missnikki]

i don't see one thing in that post that was a "brag." i said there are stupid people that are educated. i also said when someone says education is "a waste of time" or "a piece of paper" they look equally stupid.

You can call me stupid, but my degree has not helped me to do what I do. I have a job that requires it, and that's all. It makes me more money. It has not helped me in any way be better, smarter, more capable of anything else. You seem to think that it does. YOU ARE WRONG.
Your bragging is a constant flapping of opinionated posts that all amount to the following: "I have a degree, and therefore I must be held up to be something that you others aren't."
I will not bow to you, I see no need for it. It would only serve to annoy me if I had you on my staff.
Good Day.

[momofsix]

The purpose of this board (at least to me) is to support each other and learn from each other. We are all child care providers, no matter what our education and/or license status. No one would spend the time on this forum if they were parking kids in front of the tv all day, they'd have "better" things to do. Those of us who do spend time on here are looking for suppport, ideas,answers to questions a place to vent, sometimes just to hear from people that understand what our profession is really like.
In order to make a forum like this successful, and helpful to those it was created for, EVERYONE needs to be valued and respected as the professionals we all are. We may have different philosophies in how we do our business, but isn't that part of why it is so cool?!
Sometimes on this forum we tell how we messed up, talk about how things go badly...in order for us to do that, we need to feel confident that we won't be judged harshly and criticized. Yes, we all need the experience of others, and if you have something that works--please share your ideas, but please do so WITHOUT putting anyone else down We're a sensitive bunch::

[booroo]

Wow really late to this par-taayy!!! Well I'm going brag I have my degree, got it in 2.5 years, used it for 2 years, and now I'm a daycare provider!! Honesty Im glad my doctor Has a big old degree, not that he is perferct but man that was alot to learn.. Educated or not we are all people all deserve to be treated with respect. If you can't do that, then you have learned nothing in life!!! My husband doesn't have a degree but has alot of experience that has landed him a really great job!! He is very smart and talented!!

[momma2girls]

The purpose of this board (at least to me) is to support each other and learn from each other. We are all child care providers, no matter what our education and/or license status. No one would spend the time on this forum if they were parking kids in front of the tv all day, they'd have "better" things to do. Those of us who do spend time on here are looking for suppport, ideas,answers to questions a place to vent, sometimes just to hear from people that understand what our profession is really like.
In order to make a forum like this successful, and helpful to those it was created for, EVERYONE needs to be valued and respected as the professionals we all are. We may have different philosophies in how we do our business, but isn't that part of why it is so cool?!
Sometimes on this forum we tell how we messed up, talk about how things go badly...in order for us to do that, we need to feel confident that we won't be judged harshly and criticized. Yes, we all need the experience of others, and if you have something that works--please share your ideas, but please do so WITHOUT putting anyone else down We're a sensitive bunch::

Very well said!!