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  • Mandy_Jane
    Daycare.com Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 96

    #16
    Ok, I did find some links referring to swings. I can see how they possibly could be a hazard. But you know, as my husband was saying when I told him about sleep positioners and swings, you really can't do ANYTHING right with babies these days. There are SO many hazards and warnings for EVERYTHING. It's a wonder the human race has survived at all! ::

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    • blueclouds29
      Daycare.com Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 347

      #17
      Originally posted by Mandy_Jane
      Actually, I do use the Halo sleepsack swaddler. I don't do blanket swadding. And I don't let him sleep in the swing. He just falls asleep in it and then I move him to the crib where he sleep on his back with a sleep positioner. But again, he still sleeps for 2-4 hours for me even though he apparently doesn't do so for his mother.

      Nan - I am wondering why you reference "My State" when linking to that article. Maybe you didn't mean it this way, but I took that as an insult. First off, I am not currently licensed, but I was licensed for 5 years before my two daughters were born. So I know all of the safety requirements for safe sleeping. My house still meets all of the fire and health safety requirements and I follow all the rules to a T even though I don't have my official license hanging on the wall. Just because I live in Missouri doesn't mean I am an airhead provider who is taking all kinds of safety risks. Even if I hadn't been licensed, I already know all the risks of SIDS because of my own two daughters. The hospitals here do very well informing parents about SIDS. I still have my SIDS magnets hanging on my fridge that list all of the risk factors and what not to do.

      My first daughter slept the first 6 months of her life in a swing. I have never been told that swing sleeping causes any more of risk of death to a child than lying in a crib But what I DO know is that if a child is going to die from SIDS, there is not much you can do to prevent it. You can do EVERY single thing exactly right, and a baby can still die.

      I am going to do some research on this issue to learn for myself the risk factors and I will talk with my pediatrician about it as well to get their input. I just like to know all of the facts.
      I agree, my dd slept in a swing and DCB slept in the swing for 4 months and they were fine. The swing in the living room where everyone plays, and naps.
      where else can newborns sleep besides the packnplay which is in a bedroom where no one goes. Of course ihave a monitor but that doesn't tell you if they stopped breathing. Just doesn't make sense to me.... i don't get it....

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      • sharlan
        Daycare.com Member
        • May 2011
        • 6067

        #18
        Originally posted by Mandy_Jane
        Ok, I did find some links referring to swings. I can see how they possibly could be a hazard. But you know, as my husband was saying when I told him about sleep positioners and swings, you really can't do ANYTHING right with babies these days. There are SO many hazards and warnings for EVERYTHING. It's a wonder the human race has survived at all! ::
        You're right. It's amazing how us older parents managed to raise babies into adulthood using swings, bouncers, walkers, etc, plus put our babies to bed on their tummies, using blankets. I didn't have a carseat for my eldest child, no one used them. I had a little carrier/seat that she laid in that I set on the floor.

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        • Just Saying

          #19
          Remember when they were called Pumpkin Seats?? Now that is WAYYYY back

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          • caring4kidsinSD
            New Daycare.com Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 80

            #20
            Originally posted by blueclouds29
            Of course ihave a monitor but that doesn't tell you if they stopped breathing. ....
            The angel care monitor does and it's well worth the money. I use it in the pack n play of whoever is my littlest one at the time. well worth the peace of mind when trying to watch the other kids during the day. And if he happens to sleep forever one day because he's tired, I don't have to run in there every 30 minutes to see if he is still breathing.

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            • MsMe
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 712

              #21
              The "I never used a car seat" and "my babay slept in a swing" views don't make it ok.


              More kids died in car accdents before todays safty seats and less babaies are dieing today because of better sleep education.

              Nan can (and has many times) say it better than I can....but just bc you ar your kids were fine doesn't mean the risk was less. You were just lucky.

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              • blueclouds29
                Daycare.com Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 347

                #22
                Originally posted by caring4kidsinSD
                The angel care monitor does and it's well worth the money. I use it in the pack n play of whoever is my littlest one at the time. well worth the peace of mind when trying to watch the other kids during the day. And if he happens to sleep forever one day because he's tired, I don't have to run in there every 30 minutes to see if he is still breathing.
                Thank you! I have a newborn starting in Jan and i'm due in May. Hmmm might be something to look into!

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                • Michelle
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1932

                  #23
                  Originally posted by sharlan
                  You may wish to call your local CCL. Swings ARE allowed in CA.
                  o.k. I will call, but I remember 10 years ago my licenser said "no."
                  I know, I know... if it's not written in the handbook, ::::

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                  • nannyde
                    All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 7320

                    #24
                    http://www.amazon.com/Daycare-Whispe...=doing+daycare

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                    • MarinaVanessa
                      Family Childcare Home
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 7211

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Michelle
                      o.k. I will call, but I remember 10 years ago my licenser said "no."
                      I know, I know... if it's not written in the handbook, ::::
                      Yep, CA FCC provider here also. Swings are ok to use but you have to take them out as soon as they fall asleep. I did however have a licensor (not my licensor) tell me that I couldn't have one. Long story short, I asked her to prove it in writing and she changed her story from "we don't allow it" to "it's frowned upon". I just love me an argument with licensing . My actual licensor is however very good.

                      I have happily used a swing in my DC for years but remember ... awake in swing ok, asleep in swing not ok. Just the opposite of a baby in a crib or pack'n'play.

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                      • momofboys
                        Advanced Daycare Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 2560

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Mandy_Jane
                        Do you or does anyone else have any links that talk about deaths in baby swings due to positional asphyxia? The only links I am finding on it do not mention swing sleeping at all. In fact, I found sites saying it is ok for the babies to sleep in their carseat as long as you buckle them in so they can't slide down in to a position that could block their airway. And this was a site to educate about positional asphyxia. It's confusing information.

                        http://www.babyyourbaby.org/infants/...l-asphyxia.php
                        I have not read all the posts but aside from it being dangerous the issue I would have is that you aren't teaching the child to fall asleep on their own - you are relying on the swing to "put him to sleep" so to speak. Not good - what do you do when the kid is 9 months old or whatever & can no longer go in the swing to fall asleep. Babies need to learn to fall asleep without being rocked or swung.

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                        • daycare
                          Advanced Daycare.com *********
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 16259

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Michelle
                          o.k. I will call, but I remember 10 years ago my licenser said "no."
                          I know, I know... if it's not written in the handbook, ::::
                          Swings can be used in CA only when child is awake. They cannot be used for an infant to sleep in. Reason, increase risks of sids.

                          Went to a class last week !!!

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                          • daycare
                            Advanced Daycare.com *********
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 16259

                            #28
                            Originally posted by MarinaVanessa
                            Yep, CA FCC provider here also. Swings are ok to use but you have to take them out as soon as they fall asleep. I did however have a licensor (not my licensor) tell me that I couldn't have one. Long story short, I asked her to prove it in writing and she changed her story from "we don't allow it" to "it's frowned upon". I just love me an argument with licensing . My actual licensor is however very good.

                            I have happily used a swing in my DC for years but remember ... awake in swing ok, asleep in swing not ok. Just the opposite of a baby in a crib or pack'n'play.
                            Sorry just saw this.
                            Yes ditto this

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                            • Michelle
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 1932

                              #29
                              Originally posted by momofboys
                              I have not read all the posts but aside from it being dangerous the issue I would have is that you aren't teaching the child to fall asleep on their own - you are relying on the swing to "put him to sleep" so to speak. Not good - what do you do when the kid is 9 months old or whatever & can no longer go in the swing to fall asleep. Babies need to learn to fall asleep without being rocked or swung.
                              I actually had a 2 year old boy who's parent put him in the swing so long that he rocked himself to sleep smacking his head on the side of the crib.( at my house)
                              They said they only stopped using the swing because he got too heavy and bent the bars on it. He only slept in the swing at home. He was well over one years old.

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                              • Meyou
                                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 2734

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Michelle
                                I actually had a 2 year old boy who's parent put him in the swing so long that he rocked himself to sleep smacking his head on the side of the crib.( at my house)
                                They said they only stopped using the swing because he got too heavy and bent the bars on it. He only slept in the swing at home. He was well over one years old.
                                I have a friend who did that and then they switched to rocking him to sleep in a rocking chair when he broke the swing. By the time he was 4 it took a couple of hours out of her night every night. Now that I think about it she had constant babysitter problems and he had 4 sitters that I can remember before he started school. I stopped caring for him and his sister two years ago as SA kids because they didn't fit in my program anymore. He wanted to stay in the basement all summer and play video games instead of go to the beach and she (7 yrs) brought "27 Dresses" everyday to watch.

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