Mom Says Baby Didn't Sleep Well Last Night

[Mandy_Jane]

Ok, so 8 week old daycare baby just came back yesterday after a 5 day break from daycare. Mom told me this morning that he didn't sleep well last night. She says she doesn't understand how I get him to sleep so much while he's here during the day. I told her I just swaddle him and put him in the swing where he proceeds to fall straight to sleep. She says at home he hates his swing. :confused: I asked if her swing was different than mine and apparently she has a cradle swing. Mine is just a forward and back swing but it does lay back pretty far for infants.

Anyway, she said for his whole vacation she could only get him to nap for 1 to 1 1/2 hours at a time during the day. For me he naps anywhere from 2-4 hours anytime he goes to sleep. So, I'm not sure if mom is wanting me to wake him up during the day or what. I don't want mad parents who can't sleep at night because the baby is sleeping too much here. But I also DON'T want a fussy baby who I am fighting with to keep awake. What do you all recommend I do?

[cheerfuldom]

He needs to be put on a routine at your house, including weaning off the swing. Its dangerous to let babies sleep in swings.....after that, stick with your routine.

[nannyde]

Oh friend what you are doing is so so so so dangerous.

He should not be swaddled and he should NEVER sleep in a swing.
Please read this series from your home state.

http://editorialmatters.lee.net/watchdog/article_74415fec-f387-11e0-8312-001cc4c03286.html

[Unregistered]

Oh friend what you are doing is so so so so dangerous.

He should not be swaddled and he should NEVER sleep in a swing.
Please read this series from your home state.

http://editorialmatters.lee.net/watc...cc4c03286.html

I know about the dangers of sleeping in a swing but can babies NOT be swaddled? Is it not recommended? Swaddling is the only way I can get my youngest one to sleep so.....

[cheerfuldom]

you could look for better alternatives to blanket swaddling.....have you tried the halo sleep sack/swaddler?

[laundrymom]

Oh friend what you are doing is so so so so dangerous.

He should not be swaddled and he should NEVER sleep in a swing.
Please read this series from your home state.

http://editorialmatters.lee.net/watc...cc4c03286.html

I love you Nan. :-).

[MsMe]

Never allow a child to sleep in a swing. Ever.

[Mandy_Jane]

Actually, I do use the Halo sleepsack swaddler. I don't do blanket swadding. And I don't let him sleep in the swing. He just falls asleep in it and then I move him to the crib where he sleep on his back with a sleep positioner. But again, he still sleeps for 2-4 hours for me even though he apparently doesn't do so for his mother.

Nan - I am wondering why you reference "My State" when linking to that article. Maybe you didn't mean it this way, but I took that as an insult. First off, I am not currently licensed, but I was licensed for 5 years before my two daughters were born. So I know all of the safety requirements for safe sleeping. My house still meets all of the fire and health safety requirements and I follow all the rules to a T even though I don't have my official license hanging on the wall. Just because I live in Missouri doesn't mean I am an airhead provider who is taking all kinds of safety risks. Even if I hadn't been licensed, I already know all the risks of SIDS because of my own two daughters. The hospitals here do very well informing parents about SIDS. I still have my SIDS magnets hanging on my fridge that list all of the risk factors and what not to do.

My first daughter slept the first 6 months of her life in a swing. I have never been told that swing sleeping causes any more of risk of death to a child than lying in a crib But what I DO know is that if a child is going to die from SIDS, there is not much you can do to prevent it. You can do EVERY single thing exactly right, and a baby can still die.

I am going to do some research on this issue to learn for myself the risk factors and I will talk with my pediatrician about it as well to get their input. I just like to know all of the facts.

[nannyde]

Actually, I do use the Halo sleepsack swaddler. I don't do blanket swadding. And I don't let him sleep in the swing. He just falls asleep in it and then I move him to the crib where he sleep on his back with a sleep positioner. But again, he still sleeps for 2-4 hours for me even though he apparently doesn't do so for his mother.

Nan - I am wondering why you reference "My State" when linking to that article. Maybe you didn't mean it this way, but I took that as an insult. First off, I am not currently licensed, but I was licensed for 5 years before my two daughters were born. So I know all of the safety requirements for safe sleeping. My house still meets all of the fire and health safety requirements and I follow all the rules to a T even though I don't have my official license hanging on the wall. Just because I live in Missouri doesn't mean I am an airhead provider who is taking all kinds of safety risks. Even if I hadn't been licensed, I already know all the risks of SIDS because of my own two daughters. The hospitals here do very well informing parents about SIDS. I still have my SIDS magnets hanging on my fridge that list all of the risk factors and what not to do.

My first daughter slept the first 6 months of her life in a swing. I have never been told that swing sleeping causes any more of risk of death to a child than lying in a crib But what I DO know is that if a child is going to die from SIDS, there is not much you can do to prevent it. You can do EVERY single thing exactly right, and a baby can still die.

I am going to do some research on this issue to learn for myself the risk factors and I will talk with my pediatrician about it as well to get their input. I just like to know all of the facts.

Oh no no no no no

I didn't mean it the way you think.

I meant that your state has had the huge BENEFIT of having a big gun like the st louis post dispatch do the investigative journalism it took to one by one identify the cause of death of these babies who died in day care. It's a BLESSING to have someone put the MONEY and time into investigation like this. Nobody else is doing it that I know of. It's the wild wild west with SIDS confirmation because there aren't any standards from city to county to state to US.

I misread about him falling asleep in the swing. I thought you meant sleeping in the swing. If he is able to do the transfer and sleep for two plus hours you don't really need the few minutes of swinging. It would be a VERY VERY rare baby that could just be in the swing a couple of minutes and be deep enough in sleep to do the transfer. You have that one in a million so you can easily just put him to bed on his back.

NO positional devices though. He shouldn't have ANYTHING in his bed. Sleep sack over clothes and NOTHING in the bed.

[renodeb]

At that age they still sleep alot, I would start laying him in a crib though, he will get a much better sleep. Swaddling him is a great idea though, I have swaddled every baby that has come through here and that really gets them to sleep. Where I live we are not allowed to let them sleep in a swing or car seat. Do you have him every day? I wouldnt worry about getting him on a schedule until hes older. When my now 5 m/o first started she would sleep all morning wake up for a bottle, stay awake for an hour then have another shorter nap but was always sleepy right around pickups. I started messing with her scheudle (big mistake) and found that she wasnt sleeping at all. Shes starting to resolve her sleep issues on her own because shes a little older now and wakeful for longer.
I think parents of newborns often make the mistake of picking them up and holding them when they wake up in the middle of the night. I say feed them check there diaper and back to bed they go. The baby will learn day from night on his own as he gets older. Dont worry about it to much, afterall a c ranky baby at dc is hard enough.
I use one of those swaddle me wraps for my dc babies, are they saying thats no good to use? My dc babies are in a crib from the get go on there backs.
Debbie

[nannyde]

But what I DO know is that if a child is going to die from SIDS, there is not much you can do to prevent it.

That's because positional asphxia deaths are being classified as sids. There is a lot you can do to prevent positional asphxia.

[cheerfuldom]

definitely look into SIDS related issues....there are A LOT of preventable situations that are termed as SIDS. such has blankets getting around babies heads, co-sleeping unsafely, positional issues, etc. Of course no one can know for sure with every child death but it is very clear, from a basic research of the topic, that there ARE ways to have a child sleep safely and things that should be avoided.

[Michelle]

taken from article Although there is still no known cause for SIDS, studies show some infants can die when they rebreathe their own exhaled carbon dioxide trapped within soft bedding such as blankets, mattresses or pillows. They are particularly vulnerable in new, unsafe sleep environments, such as those sometimes found in the first few days of child care.

Wow! and all the info about how dangerous it is to let a baby sleep in a swing.
I am glad that swings are not allowed in Ca. Daycares
I wouldn't do it regardless but this is scary.

[Mandy_Jane]

That's because positional asphxia deaths are being classified as sids. There is a lot you can do to prevent positional asphxia.

Do you or does anyone else have any links that talk about deaths in baby swings due to positional asphyxia? The only links I am finding on it do not mention swing sleeping at all. In fact, I found sites saying it is ok for the babies to sleep in their carseat as long as you buckle them in so they can't slide down in to a position that could block their airway. And this was a site to educate about positional asphyxia. It's confusing information.

http://www.babyyourbaby.org/infants/positional-asphyxia.php

[sharlan]

taken from article Although there is still no known cause for SIDS, studies show some infants can die when they rebreathe their own exhaled carbon dioxide trapped within soft bedding such as blankets, mattresses or pillows. They are particularly vulnerable in new, unsafe sleep environments, such as those sometimes found in the first few days of child care.

Wow! and all the info about how dangerous it is to let a baby sleep in a swing.
I am glad that swings are not allowed in Ca. Daycares
I wouldn't do it regardless but this is scary.

You may wish to call your local CCL. Swings ARE allowed in CA.