Overtime

[hoopinglady]

dcm works overtime in the morning. This mean the kids arrive at 440 a.m Normally they arrive at 630. Pick up is around 4.

I didn't know about the morning over time when we started and no money was discussed.

It's not really a huge deal. The boys lie back down and sleep and I rest on the living room chair waiting for the other kids to arrive.

This has happened about 4 times in the last few weeks. She asked today if she could do it again tomorrow and she'd "pay me a bit more" if I want.

I told her that since we hadn't discussed the issue before and she'd already paid me for two weeks that if she wanted to donate some cleaning supplies that'd be great and since I am revising my contract I'd just reflect it then. She said that would work for her.

I suggested an hourly rate for anything outside of ten hours.

What do you think? And if the overtime days are not preplanned would I just charge the previous week's overtime charges at the start of the following week?

[Nellie]

I charge $3 an hour for hours over the 50 hours a week or 10 hours a day that they are allowed with the full time rate. My full time rate is $115. I realize that many will find this cheap. I am in the position where I could use the extra money so my fee is cheap enough for them to be able to afford it. I have been thinking of changing it to $5 an hour if they extend there pick up time. I don't mind the early drop offs at all, but would rather make more for during the hours in the afternoon and after I am "closed." I think you need to factor in what your time is worth to you. Many providers probable charge alot more because they really don't want to be working extra hours unless the pay makes it well worth there time. I don't think it is wrong of those providers at all, but in my circumstances I need to pick up the little I can. Since they pay ahead of time for you I might suggest on the days that they pick up that they pay you right when they drop off. Daycare rates are low in my area so if your full time rate is $150 to $200 your hourly overtime rate needs to reflect it.

[nannyde]

You made a big mistake not talking about money first and then when you did then you discussed cleaning supplies.

When they ask for overtime... and THAT is some serious overtime at tough hours... you should ALWAYS respond like this if you would like the extra income and are willing to do it

Parent: I have to do overtime X day from X to X.

You: Oh YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY I love making extra money. Okay so it's two extra hours from four thirty to six thirty. I charge three dollars per hour per kid so tha will be an extra twelve a day. Now you have to pay that in advance and if you don't use the time you are scheduled... you can't switch shifts around or do make up. All overtime has to be scheduled, paid in advance, and can't be made up if you end up not doing it or the kids miss the day for illness or whatever.

You thinking it's no biggie cuz the kids go back to sleep is exactly what the Mom thinks and what got you into this deal without talking about money. Time is money and receiving kids at that hour in the morning is worth the extra twelve bucks ALONE.

Time equals money
Overtime equals MORE money.

The Mom is doing overtime for more money. She's giving her time for more money. She should understand the same goes for you.

[erinalexmom]

I agree with Nan on this one. I gave up a family over the 5am hour cause it wasnt just that they were here. It was that I was getting up an hour earlier and then the night before I was having to go to bed an hour earlier to get enough sleep. So it actually ended up being two hours of my time. I ended up figuring it up and I was making $12 a week! Not worth it to me.
I am now getting a little stronger on the business side of things and figuring things like how much I make per hour. I love the kids and I take good care of them but I have to put my family first or I will burn out super fast. I was on the verge of quiting about 2 months ago. I changed things and I have never been happier

[hoopinglady]

You made a big mistake not talking about money first and then when you did then you discussed cleaning supplies.

When they ask for overtime... and THAT is some serious overtime at tough hours... you should ALWAYS respond like this if you would like the extra income and are willing to do it

Parent: I have to do overtime X day from X to X.

You: Oh YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY I love making extra money. Okay so it's two extra hours from four thirty to six thirty. I charge three dollars per hour per kid so tha will be an extra twelve a day. Now you have to pay that in advance and if you don't use the time you are scheduled... you can't switch shifts around or do make up. All overtime has to be scheduled, paid in advance, and can't be made up if you end up not doing it or the kids miss the day for illness or whatever.

You thinking it's no biggie cuz the kids go back to sleep is exactly what the Mom thinks and what got you into this deal without talking about money. Time is money and receiving kids at that hour in the morning is worth the extra twelve bucks ALONE.

Time equals money
Overtime equals MORE money.

The Mom is doing overtime for more money. She's giving her time for more money. She should understand the same goes for you.

For sure. I did tell her that I was revising the contract anyway and would work out an hourly rate for anything over ten hours so she is expecting that.

They are a pretty good family so far. I don't think she gets too much notice about over time so I'm not sure how I'd do pay in advance, that's my real issue.

p.s. she brought one box of tissue and one container of clorox wipes today which I found incredibly cheap considering I've done at least 5 of these days but oh well, it was a donation. My bad, will revise the contract and send it out ASAP.

[grandmom]

p.s. she brought one box of tissue and one container of clorox wipes today which I found incredibly cheap considering I've done at least 5 of these days but oh well, it was a donation. My bad, will revise the contract and send it out ASAP.

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That. Is exactly why you need to get paid money.

They get overtime, so should we. Get that new parent handbook published soon.