Angry And Hurt Right Now

[thatdivalady]

of course it has a lot to do with where you live. I live in the SF bay area. My home is less than 1600 sf and my house payment alone is about $3800.00 month. Wanna take about everything else. Like my $600 month electric bill and $450.00 month water bill. Oh yeah and lets talk about my car registration too because CA just got me on that one again. I have a 2009 suburban and its gonna cost me $632.00 to reg. it this year.

Lets talk gas, it about 3.90+ a gallon.... how does about 10-15 an hour sound now..

Amen!

I live in PA and I can tell you right now that $15 per hour would land me either out on the street or unable to put gas in my car or unable to pay my phone bill or....well..live.

[Unregistered]

It's funny how such well trained individuals, who are so professional with your "clients", can have so much time to involve yourselves in a ridiculous online conversation that's really not going anywhere. You've exerted a lot of pent up energy that could have perhaps been better utilized for your business. Let's get back to work now, ladies.

[awestbrook713]

So the general verdict here is we are under paid for what we do and the time we put into this job.

So how did my day go.....
My 4th mom contacted me about the rates via showing up at my door unannounced. We sat down and we discussed the new rates. I stood firm and didn't back down, thought I had her won over and she then says that her schedule will be changing and she will need me wednesdays for 2 hours will she have to still pay the full $25 for that day? My response "yes" the hours she will need me in the middle of the day and every other week not to mention. She wasn't happy. Then she asks if she is sick and the baby stays home will she have to still pay the full $50 for the two scheduled days? I say "yes" that was kind of the ending point I told her go home think it over but I will expect an answer by december 1st that way if she leaves I can start looking during the month before the rate change.

I also heard from my sister that mom #4 talked to her (they work together) and she told her mom #2 that called me last night is not happy either. Mom #2 is my cousin mom #4 is with another one of my cousins. I know never do daycare for family. Boy am I learning this

I watched the 3 yr old girl whos mom txt me and boy at pick up outside wasn't the only place that was cold.

I have really been dwelling on what she said as far as she did babysitting and would have never thought to charge these rates. I thought of some stuff I would like to bring up at meeting with her and dad and wanted to run them by you guys.

1. $50 a day for two kids after deducting the lower tax amount of 20% leaves me $40 a day. She use to charge me $30 a day for 2 kids ( I won't bring up her old rate but just something I hope she thinks about) How is $10 more than what she use to charge outrageous.

2. $200 a week = $2.50 an hour per child for a 40 hr week, sometimes its more than 40 hrs.

3. $200 is $80 less then the average weekly charge for 2 children age 3 + 6.

[kimsdaycare]

Daycare isn't a subscription.

It kind of is though. If you request a publication to be sent to you, and fail to read every article, you can't expect not to pay for part of it, right? If they could split up that publication into separate parts and sell your unwanted ones individually, then they would charge you according to use. It would likely be at a premium cost as well. If they find it hard to sell those bits and pieces to equal full subscription price they would just stop selling partials, right?

Some providers don't sell partial tuition, or partial subscriptions so to speak. The effort to do so isn't worth the hassle involved.
They will do what works most efficiently for their business.

Also remember, a provider has the right to seek maximum income for the hours she works, just as parents do. You have the option to leave one employer for another if they were unable to pay you as much as the other. Providers may choose the parent whose needs provides the most income.

Being said, I DO allow partial week tuition, but it rarely works out that I get full weeks covered by these clients. I take a loss each and every time.

[Ariana]

It's funny how such well trained individuals, who are so professional with your "clients", can have so much time to involve yourselves in a ridiculous online conversation that's really not going anywhere. You've exerted a lot of pent up energy that could have perhaps been better utilized for your business. Let's get back to work now, ladies.

It's called a break. I guess we're not entitled to that either right?

[dEHmom]

It's called a break. I guess we're not entitled to that either right?

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We are not entitled to do anything but smile and do as every parent wishes. We are their personal Genie. We all have breaks at different times of the day, and we occasionally have a day off here and there that we choose to spend on a daycare website. Who else loves their job this much that every chance they have they live and breath it?

i typed up a huge response but decided I better bite my tongue.

I agree with this though, I am so lucky i have such wonderful daycare parents, and I'm sorry so many of you on here have had the rotten apples.

[daycare]

It's called a break. I guess we're not entitled to that either right?

...I just came back from a teacher conference for my HS student.

I told the teacher that I am sorry we are having to meet on these terms....Her response was:

Every time I have a parent that comes to me for a meeting and its about a negative situation, somehow it is always my fault............
I looked at her and said TRUST me, I know how you feel. I experience this every day first hand...

I told her it starts at birth and from the looks of it, it doesn't change.

People who have never done our job could never relate to what we do. So when the unregistered people come on here to poke at us, I laugh.

[jen]

From the parent perspective, I get that you want to charge by the spot, but that "spot" I'm paying for had better darn well be available every single day if I want to use it for a few hours. It's not a matter of parents don't get it, it's a matter of I only want to pay for 3 days when that is what I need. I do not want to pay for 5 days when I'm not using all of them. I don't care if it's paying to save a spot or not.

Think of it this way...when you go buy a new book in your favorite series, would you like it if you had to buy the whole series just to get the new book? NO. It's a service, you say....well, say you take your car for an oil change that takes 20 mins, would you like the mechanic to say you have to pay for an hour of service because he only counts his "spots" by the hour, and not by what you actually need? NO Why is daycare the one place that thinks you need to pay for 5 days if you're only using 3 of them?

You pay for cable, even if you don't turn on the TV
If you put your child in an anctivity or a sport, you pay even if they miss practice
If you rent your home, you pay even if you travel and are only in it once a month
You pay your health club membership, even if you never go

I could go on...

[thatdivalady]

It's funny how such well trained individuals, who are so professional with your "clients", can have so much time to involve yourselves in a ridiculous online conversation that's really not going anywhere. You've exerted a lot of pent up energy that could have perhaps been better utilized for your business. Let's get back to work now, ladies.

Nope, we're just finding it hilarious that unregistered people feel like they should be taken seriously...

But on the other hand, I find it interesting that you clearly have nothing better to do with your time.

Hats off to the daycare providers who provide so much and sometimes receive so little of the respect and consideration along with professionalism that they so rightly deserve!

[Meeko]

From the parent perspective, I get that you want to charge by the spot, but that "spot" I'm paying for had better darn well be available every single day if I want to use it for a few hours. It's not a matter of parents don't get it, it's a matter of I only want to pay for 3 days when that is what I need. I do not want to pay for 5 days when I'm not using all of them. I don't care if it's paying to save a spot or not.

Think of it this way...when you go buy a new book in your favorite series, would you like it if you had to buy the whole series just to get the new book? NO. It's a service, you say....well, say you take your car for an oil change that takes 20 mins, would you like the mechanic to say you have to pay for an hour of service because he only counts his "spots" by the hour, and not by what you actually need? NO Why is daycare the one place that thinks you need to pay for 5 days if you're only using 3 of them?

So...if you go on a two week vacation....do you call your landlord and tell him that as you're actually not going to be USING/NEEDING the home for two weeks...that he's only going to get half the rent that month?

Of course not. If you want the place held open for you, then you'd better pay the whole month's rent.

No different in child care.

And why would you expect a day care to keep a spot open for your child and yet not expect to pay for it?

I tell all my dcp's that they are , essentially, RENTING a place in my day care. Those places have a set price tag. Take it or leave it.

I personally find it insulting when parents think they can haggle the price of day care. If you are hiring a nanny, then talk about the wage.

But group day care has a price set by the provider. Parents have no business asking the provider to take money out of HER pocket to make life easier for THEM, which is what they are doing when asking for discounts.

I wonder how they would feel if their boss at work came to them and said;
"I expect you to do the same exact amount of work, but I want to pay you less for it because it will leave more cash in MY wallet"

Do you go to Walmart and tell the checker that even though the price on the jeans says $19.98... you only want to pay $16.98???? Sorry...set price unless Walmart OFFERS it to you on sale.

Why is it that parents want the best car they can afford, the best phone they can afford, the best laptop they can afford?

Why will they go deeply into debt to make sure they get the best TV on the market..


.....and then look for the cheapest possible day care solution?

[Unregistered]

It's funny how such well trained individuals, who are so professional with your "clients", can have so much time to involve yourselves in a ridiculous online conversation that's really not going anywhere. You've exerted a lot of pent up energy that could have perhaps been better utilized for your business. Let's get back to work now, ladies.

If it's so ridiculous, why did you join in; . Apparently you have some pent up energy that could have been better utilized for your employment, children..?

Hypocrites are entertaining!