DCM Bringing Felon To My Home

[misspollywog]

Maybe it would be better if you just employed the Buh Bye Outside Program, altogether, with this family. :confused: Tell her it is simply to make drop-offs and pick-ups more efficient (which it does. It is my policy with everyone)

I am definitely doing this with everyone from now on. Especially considering I got the scoop on his crimes today -- it was (edited to say) PRETTY BAD (not kid related but violent)!!!!!!

She seemed very understanding when I told her I couldn't allow him to come around.

Still, UGH!!!!!! Why me???? Not that I'd wish it were any of you, either. ::

[Blackcat31]

Miss pollywog: I PM'ed you.

[permanentvacation]

Personally, I can't believe that a parent is taking a kidnapper to a daycare! If I was informed that someone had been a kidnapper, I would insist that they are not allowed on my property at all for the safety of the children.

I just called my supervisor. I was informed that there is no law stating that previous criminals - no matter what the charges - are not legally allowed on daycare property. However, as a homeowner, you can say that you do not want that specific person on your property. Also, that as a daycare provider, you are not allowed to leave someone who has not had their background check done and cleared unattended with the children, so you, the daycare provider, would have to be right there in the room or yard with the children anyway. She also said that even though there is no law stating that they can't enter daycare property, you as a homeowner can say who is or is not allowed on your property.

You could always terminate that child! Then you wouldn't have to worry about him being there on a consistant basis. However, if there are no real problems with that child or family, they might realize that the only reason you are getting rid of them is because of his background and they might cause problems with you.

They didn't have to tell you his history, since they did, you know to be more careful when he is around. You never know what any of your parents or the people that they allow to drop off/pick up their child's history or current issues are. But at least you do know theirs. I would personally be absoutely beside myself if a person who had previously kidnapped a child came anywhere near my daycare kids or my personal children!

If you have a good relationship with the parent, you might be able to let them know that you simply don't feel comfortable with him coming to your daycare and ask that either he stay in the car or not come with the parent at all.

I believe that you have the right as a homeowner to tell them you don't want that person on your property. Of course, that might cause problems between you and their family. But you should have the right to say who does or doesn't come on your property.

I have occassionally wondered myself about doing home daycare. When I get a call for an interview, sometimes I get a funny feeling and am not always comfortable with having strangers in my home. Think about it! We literally are inviting complete strangers in our home on a consistant basis! We are usually having them come in when it's only us, a woman, with a few little children, sometimes our own children are there as well. Yeah, I have times when I'm not too comfortable with that idea! I have also occassionally worried about the real estate agents who sit in an open house. You never know who shows up!

[misspollywog]

Miss pollywog: I PM'ed you.

Thank you much.

[Blackcat31]

Thank you much.

Just watching out for ya!

[Daycare Diva]

Regardless of daycare rules or state rules, this is your house and you get to say who comes in. I don't allow my parents to bring extra people in my house. They can stay in the car while you pick up. There is really no reason for them to be there. My house is not open to the public.

[mismatchedsocks]

Is there a world wide place we can look into peoples background? i know for wisconsin we have a court system website we can see who gets tickets, or arrested. But what if they live out of state?

I mean any of my daycare families can have a record out of state and I would not know!

[momofsix]

Do you know if he kidnapped a child? The term "kidnapping" doesn't necessarily mean it was a child. A distraught boyfriend that wouldn't let his girlfriend leave an apartment could be charged with kidnapping too, as an example. Either case is bad, but some scenarios would make me worry much more than others.

I would never terminate care for something like this, unless he was showing other behavior that concerned me. He paid his debt, he told you himself and I'm sure that was extremely hard for him to do (he didn't have to!) and it's not like he's ever alone with any of your kids.

I've heard stories of here of much scarier daycare dads than this guy is!

[2ndFamilyDC]

I have a couple of DCD's that have criminal records. One for something similar to what you mentioned. He is the step father to one of my dck's and a soon to be father to a yet unborn baby. He is not banned from dropping off or picking up the daycare child. He has served his debt to society and is treated like any other parent.

Licensing said people do not have to disclose their criminal histories to use daycare services or be present on the premisis. The only exception is if they are registered sex offenders and in that scenario, I would have already been notified by our Sheriff's Dept. already.

2ndFamilyDC~ My licensor could not find anything in our rules and regs stating that a parent/significant other with a criminal history can NOT be on our property during child care hours. If you have this information, could you send me the info on where I can find this? Thanks.

I was told if they have a felony they cannot be on my property or near the kids.
Of course my licensor would not know if a dc parent had a felony, but if I was told that one of my dc families had a felon living with them and wanted them to come to my home I would call my licensor and discuss it with them.

If I had a family member with a felony he/she would not be allowed to live in my house or be around the kids, so why would it be different for a dc parent? Makes no sense to me.

[Blackcat31]

I was told if they have a felony they cannot be on my property or near the kids.
Of course my licensor would not know if a dc parent had a felony, but if I was told that one of my dc families had a felon living with them and wanted them to come to my home I would call my licensor and discuss it with them.

If I had a family member with a felony he/she would not be allowed to live in my house or be around the kids, so why would it be different for a dc parent? Makes no sense to me.

Oh, I hear you but unfortunately just like Target might drug test its employees they have no say over the personal business of the people who purchase their goods and services. KWIM?

I did run it by my licensor and she said there is no law in the state of MN saying that but as a PRIVATE business owner, you are entitled to ban or prohibit anyone you choose to.

[momofsix]

I was told if they have a felony they cannot be on my property or near the kids.
Of course my licensor would not know if a dc parent had a felony, but if I was told that one of my dc families had a felon living with them and wanted them to come to my home I would call my licensor and discuss it with them.

If I had a family member with a felony he/she would not be allowed to live in my house or be around the kids, so why would it be different for a dc parent? Makes no sense to me.

In most states they are specific felonies listed, especially those having to do with children

[misspollywog]

Do you know if he kidnapped a child? The term "kidnapping" doesn't necessarily mean it was a child.

It was a botched murder-for-hire and didn't involve a child but it was very violent and speaks to his character.

[momofsix]

It was a botched murder-for-hire and didn't involve a child but it was very violent and speaks to his character.

WOW, that is scary!
How was he able to get out so soon?

[misspollywog]

WOW, that is scary!
How was he able to get out so soon?

He rolled on his accomplices and took a plea deal. The others got long sentences and he's out in 4 years.

[mismatchedsocks]

That is scary! Keep safe, and now I really want to run background checks on everyone who comes here.

I have to say I have most of the parents drop off and pick up on the porch outside, and if they have to step in my front room, which is a little room (hardwood)with cubbies then they only stay in there. I dont have parents IN my house(carpet) but now I am even more glad I dont allow them any further.