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  • nannyde
    All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
    • Mar 2010
    • 7320

    #16
    Originally posted by caligirl
    In California a child has to be in a crib until the age of 2. I've heard of a sleep sack but not a sleep chair. I've had children in the past climb out of their crib. When they reach that point, and until I have trained them not to, I bring their crib in the same room that I am in.....and the minute I see them start to climb out I say in my very firm 'daddy voice' 'NO! You Lay down!' and lay them back down each and every time.....it takes a while, but I win that battle every time. Once I have them trained, it's back to the nap room and I don't have the problem again. And no, I'd never ask a parent to come get them during nap either.
    In a crib till two there? Hmmm I've never heard that one. That's going to become tough with the equipment becoming SO shallow and cheaply made.
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    • Angelwings36
      Daycare.com Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 436

      #17
      Originally posted by nannyde
      Can you tell me the depth of the INSIDE of your playpen she is using. That's measured from the mattress to the lowest point in the playpen horizontal top rail.
      I will get you a measurement later on, can't get out to the garage for the measuring tape right now.

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      • caligirl
        Daycare.com Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 210

        #18
        Originally posted by nannyde
        In a crib till two there? Hmmm I've never heard that one. That's going to become tough with the equipment becoming SO shallow and cheaply made.
        In Cali, they are considered an 'infant' until 24 months. Crazy huh? I think so!

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        • B Lou
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 189

          #19
          ::Sorry this post just made me laugh. I mean any one of my parents would think I was out of my mind if I called and asked them to come get their child for nap time. When my children start to climb out of the cribs I just do the old transition to a mat. I mean what's the difference is putting them in a crib time after time when you can do the same thing on a mat?

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          • Blackcat31
            • Oct 2010
            • 36124

            #20
            Originally posted by Angelwings36
            So I have a 14 month old little girl here who just learned how to crawl out of her playpen. As per my contract ALL children in my daycare must have a rest period. I literally can not keep her in her playpen for more than 30 seconds, I turn my back and she is out again. I purchase a reclining children's sleep chair that has straps to help during the times that I have this problem (not my first escapee) however, I am currently using it for another little boy in my care. Typically what I do it put the child back in the playpen the first 5 times and after that they go in the chair for nap time. I start the procedure again the next day and typically within two weeks the problem has been resolved.

            So I texted mom and informed her that her daughter learned how to climb out of her playpen (I had to put her in it for a few minutes to clean up a accidental mess). I told mom she has two options;

            1. She can run and grab me a second chair that I can use for her daughter at naptime.

            OR

            2. She would have to come pick up her child for naptime today so I can get the equipment I need to deal with the situation over the weekend.

            She is upset with me. She said she couldn't leave work for 2 hours for nap time and could not pick up the chair.

            What's your input on this?
            My input on this is you need to make due today however you can. I am honestly surprised that you called this parent and expected her to "remedy" the problem right now today.

            If this is a new thing for this dcg, then you should follow your policy of doing what you stated for teaching your kiddos to nap (per your contract/policy book) and if that doesn't work, then discuss other options with the mom.

            I guess for me that means standing over the PNP, the entire nap time if necessary until the child understands that she needs to stay put.

            As a parent, I too would be really upset if you called me and asked me to do one of those two options.

            Since this child is just now learning to climb out of the PNP, I would think it is a signal that she is either ready to transition to a mat or cot.

            As for the chair with straps :confused: (......I can't get images of Hanibal Lecter strapped down to his cart thing out of my mind now. LOL! :

            Is it even legal to strap a child down to nap? I can see strapping them into highchairs and swings and such but into chairs for sleeping purposes seems strange to me.

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            • Cat Herder
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 13744

              #21
              Originally posted by Blackcat31
              My input on this is you need to make due today however you can. I am honestly surprised that you called this parent and expected her to "remedy" the problem right now today.

              If this is a new thing for this dcg, then you should follow your policy of doing what you stated for teaching your kiddos to nap (per your contract/policy book) and if that doesn't work, then discuss other options with the mom.

              I guess for me that means standing over the PNP, the entire nap time if necessary until the child understands that she needs to stay put.

              As a parent, I too would be really upset if you called me and asked me to do one of those two options.

              Since this child is just now learning to climb out of the PNP, I would think it is a signal that she is either ready to transition to a mat or cot.

              As for the chair with straps :confused: (......I can't get images of Hanibal Lecter strapped down to his cart thing out of my mind now. LOL! :

              Is it even legal to strap a child down to nap? I can see strapping them into highchairs and swings and such but into chairs for sleeping purposes seems strange to me.
              I agree, Blackcat.

              Transitioning her to a nap mat would be the most logical solution.
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              • AmandasFCC
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 423

                #22
                I agree with the other ladies. I don't think I would be using a "sleep chair". I've had kids start trying to climb out of PNP's and when that happens, as Blackcat said, I stay in the room hovering over the child until they get the hint. If that means I'm in there for 2 hours then guess what. I'm in there for 2 hours. I also agree that expect a parent to leave work to get you the equipment you want or to watch her child is ludicrous. Like the others said, that's what she's paying you for. No offense, but this is hardly Mom's problem.

                Personally, I would be transitioning child to a cot. I would sit beside the child, rubbing her back, stroking face, doing whatever it is she needed to get the clue that nap time is nap time. Yes, the child is young so yes, it's going to be incredibly difficult and probably take a long time of you being in the room, hovering and assisting. But ... that's what we're paid to do ...

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                • Meyou
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 2734

                  #23
                  I would sit with her until she fell asleep. Either in a taller (older and bigger) playpen or on a nap mat. I wouldn't be comfortable leaving her in a PNP if she could climb out.

                  My playpens are all older and very large compared to the new ones. In fact my cousin who has a newborn had a new PNP at my aunt's the other day and it looked doll size to me not baby sized. :S

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                  • Solandia
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 372

                    #24
                    I would transition to a cot as well. I have trained a 12mo & a 13mo to a cot from a pnp, and it went easier than I ever thought it would. I stay in the room during naptimes, so it wasn't something new. All the kids slept in the same family room off my kitchen (open floor plan). I stayed in the kitchen & play on the computer while they sleep.

                    A sleep chair does not sound appropriate at all, imo.

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                    • JEM
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 25

                      #25
                      Sleeping chair?

                      Just curious what a sleeping chair is? Do you have a link?

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                      • MamaBear
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 665

                        #26
                        I would definitely start using a mat for her. I start putting my kids on a nap @ 14 months. I just started a 14 month old and his mom was insistent that he would get up from the nap mat and I better put him in a PNP. I tried it the first day and all he did was stand up over and over again in the PNP. He didnt sleep at all that day. So I put him on the nap mat the next day and after him getting up 2 times and me putting him back and telling him to go to sleep, he actually did Now its been a week and hes got it down.

                        What is a nap chair? It doesn't sound very safe to have a little one napping in a chair... or comfortable? :confused:

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                        • Country Kids
                          Nature Lover
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 5051

                          #27
                          I looked up sleep chairs. They actually look like a chair and then you unfold them to make a bed. We actually had a loveseat like this. You pulled the back cushion out and it made like a mini bed to lay on. Wish we still had that-was really nice for tv watching and such!
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                          • nannyde
                            All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 7320

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Country Kids
                            I looked up sleep chairs. They actually look like a chair and then you unfold them to make a bed. We actually had a loveseat like this. You pulled the back cushion out and it made like a mini bed to lay on. Wish we still had that-was really nice for tv watching and such!
                            Have you seen one with straps? That's what I've never heard of.
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                            • Country Kids
                              Nature Lover
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 5051

                              #29
                              Would it be something you might put a child in that has disabilities so that they aren't in a realy bed but are in a bed of sorts. Maybe something you order through medical supplies. That way you could strap them in and not worry about them falling out? I see if I can find something.
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                              • nannyde
                                All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                                • Mar 2010
                                • 7320

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Country Kids
                                Would it be something you might put a child in that has disabilities so that they aren't in a realy bed but are in a bed of sorts. Maybe something you order through medical supplies. That way you could strap them in and not worry about them falling out? I see if I can find something.
                                You couldn't pay me enough to use something like that. I would be scared the kid would get the neck caught in the straps. A wirery one who is froggy.... ummmm scarry.
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