Home Daycare Licensing and Registered Sex Offenders

[LysesKids]

Do you know for certain what crime(s) this individual was convicted of? If not, there is a very good chance he did not victimize a child at all.

The average registered sex offender is someone who did something inappropriate as a teen, such as exchange nude photos with a girlfriend, have sex with another underage teen, or pull a disgusting prank involving nudity/indecent exposure.

http://www.freerangekids.com/what-is-the-most-common-age-of-a-sex-offender-surprise/

Other sex offenders did awful things to adult women, or men. I in no way think that is okay, and absolutely I think they should be punished to the fullest extent of the law...but if one of those offenders lives on my street, I'd rather know upfront that they didn't victimize a child, and that I can probably allow my child to walk to school.

Unfortunately the registry is doing more harm than good at this point, and not just harm to the "offenders" who had sex when they were 14. Parents get worried when they see dots on a map close to home, and then kids are stuck inside, not able to ride bikes or even walk to school... The system needs some work before we can rely on it to effectively protect children.

BTW, here in the USA many states do classify the worst offenders because of what they did; and yes, states will list it as a minor under 10 or 14 or whatever. If you are a class 3 sex offender that has to register for life in MD then heaven forbid; I know my sister dated a guy in WV, that had to register in MD because of a sexual assault to a minor in WV, but he worked in Cumberland MD - it's called doing your homework & finding the actual facts. She dumped him

[Blackcat31]

Do you know for certain what crime(s) this individual was convicted of? If not, there is a very good chance he did not victimize a child at all.

The average registered sex offender is someone who did something inappropriate as a teen, such as exchange nude photos with a girlfriend, have sex with another underage teen, or pull a disgusting prank involving nudity/indecent exposure.

http://www.freerangekids.com/what-is-the-most-common-age-of-a-sex-offender-surprise/

Other sex offenders did awful things to adult women, or men. I in no way think that is okay, and absolutely I think they should be punished to the fullest extent of the law...but if one of those offenders lives on my street, I'd rather know upfront that they didn't victimize a child, and that I can probably allow my child to walk to school.

Unfortunately the registry is doing more harm than good at this point, and not just harm to the "offenders" who had sex when they were 14. Parents get worried when they see dots on a map close to home, and then kids are stuck inside, not able to ride bikes or even walk to school... The system needs some work before we can rely on it to effectively protect children.

I have never received notification of a registered sex offender that commotted a crime as a minor (under 18) as that is usually confidential info (unless the offender is considered highly likely to reoffend).

The notifications I receive from my sheriff's department are for adults only and all describe the offenders crime so we know exactly what the offense was.

Also, I love and agree with the free range kids concept but I certainly wouldnt use the blog as supporting evidence for statistics on sex offenders.

I disagree that the sex offender registry does more harm than good. There are definitely some wonky situations where I've heard of someone having to register for some silly over blown situation but I believe that is a very small fraction of the registry.

[Chickadee-Tree]

I have never received notification of a registered sex offender that commotted a crime as a minor (under 18) as that is usually confidential info (unless the offender is considered highly likely to reoffend).

The notifications I receive from my sheriff's department are for adults only and all describe the offenders crime so we know exactly what the offense was.

Also, I love and agree with the free range kids concept but I certainly wouldnt use the blog as supporting evidence for statistics on sex offenders.

I disagree that the sex offender registry does more harm than good. There are definitely some wonky situations where I've heard of someone having to register for some silly over blown situation but I believe that is a very small fraction of the registry.

I'm really glad to hear that you're given the more detailed info... I'm sure like many things, some states have great systems and others not so much.

You're right, I should have given the link to the full article, not just the blog post that links to it.. http://nypost.com/2016/07/25/bogus-s...ruining-lives/

Free Range Kids is a great source for crime statistics, especially crimes against children...every stat has a source cited, and usually a link to it as well

http://www.freerangekids.com/crime-statistics/

I'm not involved in statistics research or anything like that, so I can't say whether it does more "harm than good", though that is more of a figure of speech than a statement of fact. It would be impossible to measure, as it's very subjective, and it's always changing-- I used that phrase because I read it in articles talking about reports like these, this one is from Human Rights Watch: https://www.hrw.org/news/2007/09/11/...more-harm-good

[LysesKids]

I'm really glad to hear that you're given the more detailed info... I'm sure like many things, some states have great systems and others not so much.

You're right, I should have given the link to the full article, not just the blog post that links to it.. http://nypost.com/2016/07/25/bogus-s...ruining-lives/

Free Range Kids is a great source for crime statistics, especially crimes against children...every stat has a source cited, and usually a link to it as well

http://www.freerangekids.com/crime-statistics/

I'm not involved in statistics research or anything like that, so I can't say whether it does more "harm than good", though that is more of a figure of speech than a statement of fact. It would be impossible to measure, as it's very subjective, and it's always changing-- I used that phrase because I read it in articles talking about reports like these, this one is from Human Rights Watch: https://www.hrw.org/news/2007/09/11/...more-harm-good

Can I ask why you posted some of the links you did if you don't know if it does more harm than good... considering you aren't even from the states, it looks like you are trying to stir the pot in my eyes; I know first hand what a stalker & rapist can do (I was a victim as an adult & my kids were in the house when the rape occurred)... I also know what a pedophile can do & know 2 personally - they both look like people you would never believe could harm someone (neither comes near me or my kids much less my daycare)... they live up north in MD

One was a high school friend who actually went after my sister when we were dating... later on he was convicted of sexual abuse of a minor when he was an adult; his own stepdaughter, so yeah, sometimes youth offenders can be adult offenders too, I'm just glad he was caught 2nd time around because nobody believed me & my sis in high school. The 3rd pedophile I know of I keep watch over because he is only 3 houses from me & that was a fluke that he slipped thru the cracks

[daycarediva]

You do realize that the REGISTERED sex offenders are far less dangerous than the countless others that have yet to be caught, right?

We have DOZENS in our area. I have their photos and addresses, with a list of offenses mailed to me by the police department. The neighbor that stops and chats while you are with the kids, the mailman that waves to them, the daycare dad that stays and plays every day. ALL potential offenders.

My job is to not take my eyes off of my kids, and that is the best protection that they can have.

[Mike]

You do realize that the REGISTERED sex offenders are far less dangerous than the countless others that have yet to be caught, right?

We have DOZENS in our area. I have their photos and addresses, with a list of offenses mailed to me by the police department. The neighbor that stops and chats while you are with the kids, the mailman that waves to them, the daycare dad that stays and plays every day. ALL potential offenders.

My job is to not take my eyes off of my kids, and that is the best protection that they can have.

Very true. Only a small percentage of sex offenders ever get caught, and it could be anyone. We have to keep an eye on children if we want them to be safe.

[Chickadee-Tree]

Can I ask why you posted some of the links you did if you don't know if it does more harm than good... considering you aren't even from the states, it looks like you are trying to stir the pot in my eyes; I know first hand what a stalker & rapist can do (I was a victim as an adult & my kids were in the house when the rape occurred)... I also know what a pedophile can do & know 2 personally - they both look like people you would never believe could harm someone (neither comes near me or my kids much less my daycare)... they live up north in MD

One was a high school friend who actually went after my sister when we were dating... later on he was convicted of sexual abuse of a minor when he was an adult; his own stepdaughter, so yeah, sometimes youth offenders can be adult offenders too, I'm just glad he was caught 2nd time around because nobody believed me & my sis in high school. The 3rd pedophile I know of I keep watch over because he is only 3 houses from me & that was a fluke that he slipped thru the cracks

I'm so sorry to hear about all those terrible things, that is truly awful. I am not trying to defend actual sex offenders, or pedophiles. IMHO, they get off way too easily.

I promise you, I am not trying "stir the pot". I'm just trying to do my part to shed a little bit of light onto an important issue that gets very little attention.
I was only trying to bring up the issue that this VERY serious Registry is being misused, and bloated needlessly, and wasting your tax dollars.
People are on there who were caught having sex with their wife on a public beach.
Children are being registered on it, for gross pranks where they pulled their pants down and put their butt in a girl's face. Disgusting? Absolutely! Punishable? Absolutely! Registered Sex Offender FOR LIFE?!?! No.
Imagine if your son was taken to a foster home, because he pulled a disgusting prank involving nudity, and now is a Sex Offender, therefore he cannot live in the same house with his younger siblings? Because it happens.

No, I'm not in the US--but my parents, my sister, and two brothers are. I lived there as a child, and I have many friends in the States.
But even if I didn't, my heart goes out to those who are on the Sex Offender Registry needlessly. Their lives are effectively ruined, as well as their kids' lives, and others around them. When I see statistics that the average age of a registered offender is 14, my heart goes out to those 14-year-old children. Some of them deserve and need to be registered, for sure!! But the majority? Somehow I don't think there has been an epidemic of 14-year-old rapists committing atrocious crimes, that we all just sort of didn't notice.
I just wish they could reserve the Registry for those who committed REAL sex crimes, that's all.
And when Human Rights Watch publishes reports about this issue, I'm pretty sure that it's not just a very small portion of the registry that is on there needlessly.

I'm sorry, I get passionate about stuff like this. ANY kind of injustice, really. I'll get just as heated talking about the horrible campus rape problem at colleges and universities-- at least I think we would agree on that issue!
I truly didn't mean to offend you, I'm a big believer in supporting survivors, and prosecuting attackers/rapists to the fullest extent of the law. I want THEM on the Registry, each and every one.

[LysesKids]

I'm so sorry to hear about all those terrible things, that is truly awful. I am not trying to defend actual sex offenders, or pedophiles. IMHO, they get off way too easily.

I promise you, I am not trying "stir the pot". I'm just trying to do my part to shed a little bit of light onto an important issue that gets very little attention.
I was only trying to bring up the issue that this VERY serious Registry is being misused, and bloated needlessly, and wasting your tax dollars.
People are on there who were caught having sex with their wife on a public beach.
Children are being registered on it, for gross pranks where they pulled their pants down and put their butt in a girl's face. Disgusting? Absolutely! Punishable? Absolutely! Registered Sex Offender FOR LIFE?!?! No.
Imagine if your son was taken to a foster home, because he pulled a disgusting prank involving nudity, and now is a Sex Offender, therefore he cannot live in the same house with his younger siblings? Because it happens.

No, I'm not in the US--but my parents, my sister, and two brothers are. I lived there as a child, and I have many friends in the States.
But even if I didn't, my heart goes out to those who are on the Sex Offender Registry needlessly. Their lives are effectively ruined, as well as their kids' lives, and others around them. When I see statistics that the average age of a registered offender is 14, my heart goes out to those 14-year-old children. Some of them deserve and need to be registered, for sure!! But the majority? Somehow I don't think there has been an epidemic of 14-year-old rapists committing atrocious crimes, that we all just sort of didn't notice.
I just wish they could reserve the Registry for those who committed REAL sex crimes, that's all.
And when Human Rights Watch publishes reports about this issue, I'm pretty sure that it's not just a very small portion of the registry that is on there needlessly.

I'm sorry, I get passionate about stuff like this. ANY kind of injustice, really. I'll get just as heated talking about the horrible campus rape problem at colleges and universities-- at least I think we would agree on that issue!
I truly didn't mean to offend you, I'm a big believer in supporting survivors, and prosecuting attackers/rapists to the fullest extent of the law. I want THEM on the Registry, each and every one.

I am passionate about keeping true offenders listed; in the USA minors that haven't done violent offenses are not listed as adults & yes in my case, the one didn't get caught as a minor was caught as an adult... the fact is, and as was said, there are many more offenders that aren't on the registry that haven't been caught.

We all have to keep an eye out for the perverts that haven't been caught AND AGAIN, I still don't understand why you are pressing this issue when it doesn't save anyone from the 1000's of predators that aren't caught. Because of my prior career and history, I may be more in tune to spotting a predator, but there are many people you wouldn't expect to do what they do...

As a childcare provider that takes in traumatized kids, my interest is watching out for any unusual stuff that can harm a child... that includes abusive parents, not just sexual predators, so I'm ready to step off the soap box... I'll do my best to protect who I need to regardless of reason

[SAarons]

The registered ones are dangerous but it is the unregistered you really have to worry about.
There is a pair of them that live in the apartment block near anobspbow and it is disgusting what they get up to in the park near by. And there is an obvious reason why they have an apartment near the school.
They have been reported by the police a few times, always kids around 10. What is worse is that one of them is an uncle, and he has trapped his sister in a relationship with the other guy.
And you guessed it she has a 10 year old. Its incredible what sickos will do.
I got a text message about this last night, there are forum posts where one of them is bragging that you wont catch him and what he does in his apartment is his own choice.

Here are the details I got in the text message, so please be aware.

[Blackcat31]

The registered ones are dangerous but it is the unregistered you really have to worry about.
There is a pair of them that live in the apartment block near anobspbow and it is disgusting what they get up to in the park near by. And there is an obvious reason why they have an apartment near the school.
They have been reported by the police a few times, always kids around 10. What is worse is that one of them is an uncle, and he has trapped his sister in a relationship with the other guy.
And you guessed it she has a 10 year old. Its incredible what sickos will do.
I got a text message about this last night, there are forum posts where one of them is bragging that you wont catch him and what he does in his apartment is his own choice.

Here are the details I got in the text message, so please be aware.

DO NOT post identifying info on the forum.

[SAarons]

Im sorry, As a mother of three I am horrified by it. I hope and pray to God that no one gets hurt by these two.

How much info do you want?

[Blackcat31]

Im sorry, As a mother of three I am horrified by it. I hope and pray to God that no one gets hurt by these two.

How much info do you want?

This is not a forum for posting that type of info so no info is required.

As child care providers we receive need to know information directly from law enforcement agencies in our areas.

Posting info on a public forum as a regular citizen (even a concerned parent) is not acceptable.

Let law enforcement handle tracking those that need to be tracked and as a parent do your due diligence and keep your children safe.

[Unregistered]

Listen people,...I am a registered sex offender on Chicago. What makes you people think that starting a daycare next to or around a home of a registered sex offender who was there first is cool,- when you are knowingly disadvantaging him by forcing him to move so that YOU can make more money by having a home day care ( because you save overhead expenditures by not having to lease a space?). It's all about those individuals and their greed and spite towards a sex offender who may not be bothering anyone and who is compliance with state law. At the end of the day, it's all about YOU and you making money,- despite the harm you can bring to another human being. Sex offenders victimize others because of selfishness,- this person who intentionally started a day care despite her knowing a sex offender ( who was there prior to her even "thinking"!about moving there), still pursued her home day care for her own material gain and knowing it would dispossess him

IS JUST AS SELFISH. When you cause someone else harm,- ( either directly or as in this case indirectly) you're in the same basket.

Am I the only one freaked about about someone on a sex offenders list on a day care forum?

[Mariahsaint]

Am I the only one freaked about about someone on a sex offenders list on a day care forum?

Yes.

Chances are they were a one time visitor. Something they searched regarding the topic on google brought this thread up.

Ignoring the fact that there is not proof that he/she is a pedophile, they wouldn't be able to do anything anyway. No one's identity or address is listed.

[LostMyMarbles]

I can appreciate your concern. It's a scary world now a days. I don't feel that I would change my life plans that may affect someone else, who didn't care about others to begin with. I would open my day care and report my neighbor. This is MY opinion. I should not have to change anything about my life because of someone else's mistakes. Did he pay for his mistake, sure if he went to prison. Wil he prey or obsess over the children next door, I don't know. I feel we all need to protect our children. We do child care because of our love for kids! Trust YOUR gut!