Showing A Loss Each Year

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    Showing A Loss Each Year

    My question is what if you do show a loss each year?? I've did daycare for 10 years and have showen a loss I think for almost all 10 years, because I spend so much money each year- and all of my home expenses and such- what do you do- just not claim all your deductions so you show a profit- that really doesn't make sense to me- how ofter do they aduit a small daycare home provider- I save all my receipts and cancelled checks each year so I have everything so show if I did get aduited - I just don't want my tax preparer to show a loss each year on my taxes if it's going to cause a problem- also we actually don't show an overall loss between my husband and I just if you look at my daycare taxes then there is a loss - does that make sense-

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    Please Answer

    Would someone please respond to my questions???????

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    • DCMomOf3
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 1246

      #3
      If you aren't getting answers there is a chance we don't know, I know I have no idea. If you could show some patience someone who does have an answer may respond.

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      • kendallina
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 1660

        #4
        I remember Tom saying something about how after more than a couple of years of a loss the IRS may seek for you to prove that you are trying in good faith to make a profit...I'm sure he'll respond when he gets a chance.

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        • cillybean83
          Daycare.com Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 544

          #5
          a loss is acceptable and almost expect in the first year or 2, after that you should be showing a profit, and if you don't show a profit for 3 out of 5 years, you will more than likely be audited.

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          • KEG123
            Where Children Grow
            • Nov 2010
            • 1252

            #6
            Originally posted by cillybean83
            a loss is acceptable and almost expect in the first year or 2, after that you should be showing a profit, and if you don't show a profit for 3 out of 5 years, you will more than likely be audited.
            I think I read in one of Tom's books that if there is no profit shown after 5 years that you would be then considered a hobby and maybe you can't claim expenses on taxes??? I'm sure he'll chime in once he notices this thread!

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            • TomCopeland
              Business Author/Trainer
              • Jun 2010
              • 3062

              #7
              Showing a Loss

              Just got into a hotel after driving 6 hours north from the Bay Area to Eureka, CA.

              The IRS assumes you are a business trying to make a profit if you show a profit three out of every five years. If you don't do this you could attract some attention from the IRS. They may think that you are operating a hobby, not a business and deny some of your deductions. However, I've never seen an auditor actually say that a provider is running a hobby. However, they can deny deductions when you are showing a loss by saying you aren't trying to make a profit.

              If you do show a loss you cannot claim house expenses (property taxes, mortgage interest, utilities, house insurance, house repairs, and house depreciation).

              My advice would be that if you have been showing losses for a number of years try to reduce your expenses and show a smaller loss each year if possible.
              http://www.tomcopelandblog.com

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