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    #16
    Thank you I will look into REI. I have been looking for more infant care courses but most if not all degrees and classes cater toward preschool sometimes toddlers.

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    • CityGarden
      Daycare.com Member
      • Mar 2016
      • 1667

      #17
      In addition to complimentary side income you may want to evaluate to be sure you are maxing your take home pay with the children you have now....

      Some ways to increase profits/earnings with the students you currently have:

      Include (or add, if needed) Annual Rate Increases
      Tom Copeland describes this here: http://tomcopelandblog.com/easiest-way-raise-rates
      My rates are set to rise each September ~5%, that is listed on my rate sheet and on my website. It is not in the contract but my parents sign a new contract each year.... that said I might add it now that I realize the oversight.

      Meals / Snacks
      Food is a major expense. Are you participating in the Food Program? Many on here and Tom Copeland feel not participating in the food program is walking away from $$$.

      If you are not interested in the Food Program have you considered having parents provide their own lunch? I have parents provide lunches and as of now I provide an AM & PM snack - we may reduce this to and AM snack only. I sell it to parents as a positive for their child.

      Benefits to children bringing a lunch from home:
      • allows teachers to focus on engaging with children
      • teaches ownership
      • teaches respect for others property
      • creates a mid-day connection to home for the child
      • ensures once a day the child has meals they like and similar to what is served in their family
      • helps parents understand their child's likes/ dislikes and appetite


      If someone asked my favorite policy, parents providing lunches would be it! lovethis I save both money and time having parents provide lunch and I am able to engage with the children without the added distraction of preparing food. I prep snacks in advance so kitchen time is really just washing and cutting fruits that need to be cut fresh. (I will add in my area parents are really high maintenance, wanting all organic, some have their children Paleo or following Whole 30, GF, etc. )

      Switch to a tiered rate structure

      The quotes below are from another thread but I feel they best express what my response would be about contracted hours / tiered rates. I initially offered contracted hours when I first opened as a way to discourage all day enrollment sadly my first family that enrolled from open to close which was not my intent. Luckily contracted hours saved me because utilizing them I am making $10 more per day than the highest home daycare in my area charges for infants and the one in my care is 2 so even though I don't love him here from open to close I am paid well for it.

      Originally posted by daycare
      You've all seen nanny de graduating fee scale??

      Well I'm not going to post major details but I used to work from 630 to 6. After picking up her graduating fee scale with her help I now work from 730 to 5 and 99% of my kids are gone by 4:00-4:30. Yup one kid until 5, which that kid will be fine in the fall.

      AND I make more money. If you really want help with it I know nanny de has a consulting business. It only cost me $50 to get her to help me transition to that fee scale which you can see is worth WAY WAY more than $50......
      Originally posted by Blackcat31
      I offer tiered rates according to pick up time.

      I don't count actual hours in care because I don't care.

      I only offer 3 pick up times. 3:00, 4:00 and 5:00.

      I don't care what time a family arrives (they still have to schedule it so I know) but I open at 7:00. It doesn't matter to me if I have 1 or all 12 kids here at 7:00. I am working at 7:00 so makes no difference either way.

      I ONLY care what time a child is going to be picked up.....so that I know what time I will be getting off work.

      I set my old weekly rate (that used to be for any kid there from open to close) as my earliest pick up time (3:00) and added fees from there. The ONLY families that got a rate increase were those that couldnt pick up by 3:00 (it's amazing how many "couldn't do that prior to the rate change but suddenly could when I implemented the rate scale )

      If families need a 4:00 pick up M, T, W and Th but need a 5:00 pick up for Friday, they still pay the weekly rate for 5:00 pick up. If they are off work at 4:00 M-Th then they have an hour each day they can do whatever they want. I charge weekly so breaking it down daily was way too much accounting.

      I add or subtract to the rate depending on whether or not they are 3, 4 or 5 days a week. My "old" flat weekly rate is now what I earn for a 3 day a week child that attends only 3 days a week. I now work less hours and make more money AND I know exactly what time I am "off" work each day allowing me to schedule whatever appointments I need to outside of work.

      I also operate on contracted hours so if a family schedules a 3:00 pick up and they don't pick up at 3:00, I charge late fees...even if I have other kids present still.

      Make sense?

      ETA: Oh and like a previous poster said... I "sold" it to parents as a way for them to save money and every one of them loved the idea!

      I can send you the letter I used if you are interested.

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      • CityGarden
        Daycare.com Member
        • Mar 2016
        • 1667

        #18
        Originally posted by CityGarden
        I have not added an additional job while running my in home program since I am just getting established but while teaching I did...

        TeachersPayTeachers - very minimally did not make much money as I only added what I made for myself

        Tutoring Elementary School Children - there was very good side $$$ in this but not enough to quit my job and do full time

        Jewelry sales via at home parties - I made anywhere from $300-$900 per month doing this very part time but I personally found I spent most of my earning back on product.

        At some point I am thinking about hosting parenting workshops or classes on positive discipline or similar for a fee. A colleague became RIE trained and it's great because she host a Saturday parent & me class which creates a built in clientele for her daycare.
        Originally posted by Unregistered
        Thank you I will look into REI. I have been looking for more infant care courses but most if not all degrees and classes cater toward preschool sometimes toddlers.
        That was a typo it is RIE Parenting


        I did mommy & me classes with Janet Lansbury for two years with my dd and it was this AP mama's saving grace when I found it. I felt RIE helped me to be connected and responsive without feeling the need to be "attached" - it really is an amazing early childhood approach. It I did infants /toddlers only that would be my approach and I still implement it with my 2+ crowd where it applies.

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        • Unregistered

          #19
          I quit my food program provider and I am looking for another just haven't got that going yet, crazy busy. Unfortunately I don't get reimbursed as much as I used to at my other location.

          As far as rate structure I like that version! I read a thread on here years ago about limiting the hours otherwise you will have parents taking up your whole 12 hrs and that is exactly what many did.

          So I charge them for blocks of time and each kid has a schedule. BUt they do it within my 10.5 hr day.

          I am noticing between cleaning, training, marketing and following up on new potential parents email, calling me, meeting. That I easily tip over 12 hr days. Which is not ok.

          I may seriously consider a flat start time, then tiered rate based on when they leave starting at 3pm. Hmmm my wheels are turning.

          I charge the most in the area for in home. I just did notice that the centers bumped up their rates again in January so I have been trying to change a few things and considering raising mine again. Really because I keep a small group. If I had 5-7 kids I wouldn't worry but I have no more than 4 and then someone is always waiting to start, so frequently 3 paying. When you deal with babies and wanting newborns you wait.

          Realizing I have to tweak a few things. Great advice thank you.

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          • CityGarden
            Daycare.com Member
            • Mar 2016
            • 1667

            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered
            I may seriously consider a flat start time, then tiered rate based on when they leave starting at 3pm. Hmmm my wheels are turning.

            I charge the most in the area for in home. I just did notice that the centers bumped up their rates again in January so I have been trying to change a few things and considering raising mine again. Really because I keep a small group. If I had 5-7 kids I wouldn't worry but I have no more than 4 and then someone is always waiting to start, so frequently 3 paying. When you deal with babies and wanting newborns you wait.

            Realizing I have to tweak a few things. Great advice thank you.
            I think contracted hours could drastically change your quality of life.... and reduce some of the strains from this job. I recall other providers have switched to contracted hours instead of doing a price increase.... that was one way they sold it to parents. There are lots of threads on it here on daycare.com you can do a tag search for more....

            Also have you considered a pre-enrollment program? I think it would work well for infants: http://thrivingchildcare.com/2016/02...lment-program/

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            • Unregistered

              #21
              Wow thank you for that advice! I have wished but doubted myself. You know what I will do that. Adding that to my site this week.

              Thank you! that should over time help out and possibly save the business and you are right prevent burnout. I am tired of the roller coaster income stream.

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              • frugalmama4
                Daycare.com Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 470

                #22
                Hello, would you have a little more information on getting started with this?

                Thanks in advance!

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                • frugalmama4
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 470

                  #23
                  Originally posted by jenboo
                  I teach full immersion English classes online to Chinese children. Early morning classes before the kids get here. $20/ per hour. You need a bachelor's degree. I work 20hrs a week and make around $1500 a month.
                  Hello, would you have a little more information on getting started with this?

                  Thanks in advance!

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