Taxes: How Do You Write Off Cable & Internet?

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  • legomom922
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 1020

    Taxes: How Do You Write Off Cable & Internet?

    We are not a TV watching family..honestly..in fact we only have basic cable. i watch the Today show in the morning, and Bachleor on Mondays...That's it..Hubby writes music, so he doesnt watch ANY tv at all, and my son is a Apple technology junkie, and could care less about tv..So, with this in mind, the TV is turned on for personal use only 6 hours a week. However, with DC, it's on about 2 hrs a day, between morn/afternoon. So would i write off cable as a 50% business expense? or maybe even higher if it is used more for business rather than personal? Or would it still be time/space?

    How do you write off yours?

    And what about internet? I consider this site "educational' for business. I generally dont surf too often, just pay bills, ck on my ad on CL and email parents. so would my business use be higher than my personal? I was thinking of writing off the internet portion at about 75% business...but that's only for ME, what about the use for my husband & son? Would I consider them for my % also?

    grrr....
  • MyAngels
    Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 4217

    #2
    You can deduct whatever you want, however you want, but the real question is will it survive an audit? That's best answered by a tax professional. Personally, I use the time/space percentage for all utilities, including cable and internet. Perhaps this link will help you with some of your questions (or not, as it's written by the IRS ): http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/...206004,00.html

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    • tenderhearts
      Daycare.com Member
      • Jan 2010
      • 1447

      #3
      I'm not really sure because I just take in all my totals, internet, cable, utilities, ect to my tax preparer and she figures out the persentage.

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      • Lucy
        Daycare.com Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 1654

        #4
        Yes. All my utilities are written off. My tax guy tells me what's deductible, and I give him the totals we pay. He takes care of all that. Even yard maintenance, fences, house repair, painting, gutters, everything!

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        • legomom922
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 1020

          #5
          How can you just take your bills and reciepts to a acct and say here...you figure it out? There has to be some "personalization", because he can't just guess at stuff...he doesnt really know how much time you watch TV, or on the internet, or how many clorox wipes you really used..So I don't understand how you can do this....

          I can see how most utilities would be written off at t/s, but in my case with the cable, the cable is used more for business tha for personal, so how could it be t/s?

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          • MyAngels
            Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 4217

            #6
            Originally posted by legomom922
            How can you just take your bills and reciepts to a acct and say here...you figure it out? There has to be some "personalization", because he can't just guess at stuff...he doesnt really know how much time you watch TV, or on the internet, or how many clorox wipes you really used..So I don't understand how you can do this....

            I can see how most utilities would be written off at t/s, but in my case with the cable, the cable is used more for business tha for personal, so how could it be t/s?
            An accountant/tax preparer follows the guidelines set forth by the IRS, and that's how you can just give them your information and they prepare a return.

            The question isn't how much you deduct, but would the deduction survive an audit by the IRS - with an agent sitting with you, asking you how you came up with the number you've deducted that's above your time/space percentage calculation? Just telling them, well, we're not really a TV family will most likely not fly and the deduction would be disallowed.

            Now, will you get audited? Who knows what triggers an audit, but I would think that higher than normal deductions for things like utilities in a home daycare could be a trigger. Of course, since I'm not a CPA, this is just my speculation, and you really should find a good accountant if you are going to go with a method for deducting expenses that is outside of the guidelines used by the IRS, and keep impeccable and detailed records.

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            • Jewels
              Daycare.com Member
              • Aug 2010
              • 534

              #7
              I use time/space percentage for all utilities also, Which is also what Tom copeland said at a seminar...........you can consider anything time/space percentage pretty much that you buy, Tom copeland said at one of the seminars as an example, "say you buy a scale at the store to weigh yourself, and you ask yourself, can I write part of this off? Sure you can, just have one of the daycare kids stand on it, and boom, its been used by daycare, so write it off"(time/space percentage, not 100%)

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              • legomom922
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Jul 2010
                • 1020

                #8
                but isnt that really pushing it? Would it fly in a audit? A daycare wouldnt really need a scale.

                Somethings are used for business more than personnal, like my printer...I use that constantly for business, and very rarely for anything else except for maybe directions ocassionaly.

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                • Jewels
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 534

                  #9
                  That scale example was from tom copeland himself!

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                  • Jewels
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 534

                    #10
                    I just bought a new printer, and wrote it off 100% everything I print is for daycare, And I needed one upstairs that I could use while the children are around, And I will have no problem arguing that, if the time came, I would have never purchased a new one, were it not for daycare, and using it every single day for daycare, I type up my daily sheets during lunch time everyday, and print them. along with everything else. I think it is believable.

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                    • legomom922
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 1020

                      #11
                      Yes the new printer is believeable! Just not the scale...LOL

                      I need to get a new printer/copier/scanner and I will write that off 100% and just use my old one for persoannal.

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                      • actaktmdt
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 140

                        #12
                        I use time/space percentage for all utilities

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                        • DCMomOf3
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 1246

                          #13
                          Originally posted by legomom922
                          but isnt that really pushing it? Would it fly in a audit? A daycare wouldnt really need a scale..
                          I've used a scale to weigh my kids. I have to know when they weigh too much for a PNP and so I am sure they are in the right carseat/boosters.

                          Originally posted by actaktmdt
                          I use time/space percentage for all utilities
                          Ditto.

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                          • TomCopeland
                            Business Author/Trainer
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 3062

                            #14
                            TV and scales

                            You can deduct expenses that are "ordinary and necessary" for your business. This includes a television. When items are used for both business and personal use, the best way to deduct them is to use your time-space percentage. If you keep records to show that the actual use was greater than your time-space percentage, you can deduct a higher amount. However, you would need to keep accurate records to prove your business use. For example, track all the actual hours that your television is used for business and personal purposes for two months (that would be reasonable) and determine your actual business use percentage.
                            http://www.tomcopelandblog.com

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                            • legomom922
                              Advanced Daycare.com Member
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 1020

                              #15
                              Thanks Tom! I appreciate it! Would that include keeping a log as to how much time you are on the computer for business purposes? I was thinking of getting a little notebook and logging time on/off for the computer and TV. Would this work then?

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