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  • TheGoodLife
    Home Daycare Provider
    • Feb 2012
    • 1372

    Breaking Down Expenses

    So I have another tax question I'm sure I've read that you claim the taxes for business purchases. If I have a receipt that is divided between 2 different types of expenses (activities and cleaning supplies, or some 100% and some T/S) what do you do about the taxes? Should I just leave it off? TIA!
  • Country Kids
    Nature Lover
    • Mar 2011
    • 5051

    #2
    I split the receipt of between the two expenses. Say I have cleaning supplies and crafts on one receipt.

    I take a highlighter and highlight with two different colors the expenses. Then I enter what the cleaning supplies add up to and same with the craft supplies.

    Everything doesn't have to be in the same category on a receipt.
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    • TheGoodLife
      Home Daycare Provider
      • Feb 2012
      • 1372

      #3
      Originally posted by Country Kids
      I split the receipt of between the two expenses. Say I have cleaning supplies and crafts on one receipt.

      I take a highlighter and highlight with two different colors the expenses. Then I enter what the cleaning supplies add up to and same with the craft supplies.

      Everything doesn't have to be in the same category on a receipt.
      But what do you do about the taxes you paid? Split them, or just not add them in?

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      • kluna1014
        Daycare.com Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 5

        #4
        I usually either figure out the tax, or I just skip the tax all together because it is sometimes more of a hassle to figure out the taxes than it's worth claiming.

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        • TomCopeland
          Business Author/Trainer
          • Jun 2010
          • 3062

          #5
          Sales tax

          Originally posted by Mama2Bella
          But what do you do about the taxes you paid? Split them, or just not add them in?
          Two methods: One you figure out the percentage of business expenses on each receipt, use that percentage on the sales tax.

          Second, add up all your expenses at the end of the year for receipts that are split, and calculate the percentage of sales tax that is business and multiply it by the total sales tax.

          You don't want to leave out claiming sales tax. In one audit I was involved in, a provider hadn't claimed any sales tax. When I had her go back and figure it out, she claimed several hundred extra dollars of business deductions.
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          • Jewels
            Daycare.com Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 534

            #6
            I never split a receipt in 2 categories, I pick one category whatever there is more of, and just put it all under that. To much unnecessary work to split a reciept up that much, at least for me: )

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            • TheGoodLife
              Home Daycare Provider
              • Feb 2012
              • 1372

              #7
              Originally posted by Jewels
              I never split a receipt in 2 categories, I pick one category whatever there is more of, and just put it all under that. To much unnecessary work to split a reciept up that much, at least for me: )
              That was another question I had- How important is it to separate the different classifications of expenses that fall under "other expenses" for Form 8829? as long as the math is done correctly, would it matter if I had an activity item included in the cleaning supply column? Wouldn't it all add up to be the same?

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              • TomCopeland
                Business Author/Trainer
                • Jun 2010
                • 3062

                #8
                Expenses

                Originally posted by Mama2Bella
                That was another question I had- How important is it to separate the different classifications of expenses that fall under "other expenses" for Form 8829? as long as the math is done correctly, would it matter if I had an activity item included in the cleaning supply column? Wouldn't it all add up to be the same?
                Only put expenses on Form 8829 that directly relate to the house. Put cleaning supplies on Schedule C. If you show a loss on Schedule C you won't be able to claim some or all of Form 8829 expenses (they can be carried over to the next year). By putting your cleaning supplies on Schedule C you will always be able to claim them, even if you have a loss.
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                • TheGoodLife
                  Home Daycare Provider
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 1372

                  #9
                  Originally posted by TomCopeland
                  Only put expenses on Form 8829 that directly relate to the house. Put cleaning supplies on Schedule C. If you show a loss on Schedule C you won't be able to claim some or all of Form 8829 expenses (they can be carried over to the next year). By putting your cleaning supplies on Schedule C you will always be able to claim them, even if you have a loss.
                  Ugh, I knew that- it was late when I was typing Thanks Tom!

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                  • Jewels
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 534

                    #10
                    Originally posted by TomCopeland
                    Only put expenses on Form 8829 that directly relate to the house. Put cleaning supplies on Schedule C. If you show a loss on Schedule C you won't be able to claim some or all of Form 8829 expenses (they can be carried over to the next year). By putting your cleaning supplies on Schedule C you will always be able to claim them, even if you have a loss.
                    But that only matters if you claim a loss right, I never claim a loss, so does it matter if I Mixed them? Usually when I pick a category its between toys/supplies I just choose one, but I'm guessing ive combined household items and cleaning supplies also, but again I don't foresee ever claiming a loss.

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                    • TomCopeland
                      Business Author/Trainer
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 3062

                      #11
                      Expenses

                      Originally posted by Jewels
                      But that only matters if you claim a loss right, I never claim a loss, so does it matter if I Mixed them? Usually when I pick a category its between toys/supplies I just choose one, but I'm guessing ive combined household items and cleaning supplies also, but again I don't foresee ever claiming a loss.
                      If you aren't claiming a loss then it doesn't matter if your expense shows up on Schedule C or Form 8829.
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