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  • Abigail
    Child Care Provider
    • Jul 2010
    • 2417

    Cell Phones

    I can't find the information I need to know about cell phones and the bill. We have a family share line my husband and I have each our own cell phone and last year I opened a third line for an additional ten dollars which is ONLY a daycare phone. Parents don't have our personal numbers. How does it work with taxes? Do I use a portion of the bill as 1/3 since it's 1/3 phones used for daycare or do I claim half the bill since I do use my personal phone some as well to talk to licensors or ccrr on a regular basis? Do I not have any part of the bill and just use my time/space percentage which seems to be 64% at the moment?
  • TomCopeland
    Business Author/Trainer
    • Jun 2010
    • 3062

    #2
    Phone

    Originally posted by Abigail
    I can't find the information I need to know about cell phones and the bill. We have a family share line my husband and I have each our own cell phone and last year I opened a third line for an additional ten dollars which is ONLY a daycare phone. Parents don't have our personal numbers. How does it work with taxes? Do I use a portion of the bill as 1/3 since it's 1/3 phones used for daycare or do I claim half the bill since I do use my personal phone some as well to talk to licensors or ccrr on a regular basis? Do I not have any part of the bill and just use my time/space percentage which seems to be 64% at the moment?
    You have 3 phone lines. The first phone line (your husband's) is not deductible. The second phone is deductible since you use it for your business. If so, multiply the cost (one/half of original bill) by your time-space %. Then deduct $10 for the third line that you use 100% for your business.

    Join me for a webinar “2012 Tax Changes: How to Avoid Mistakes on Your Tax Return” Tuesday, February 12th at 8:30-10:00pm Eastern Time. The cost is $25 (100% tax deductible!). To register: http://events.r20.constantcontact.co...&llr=yatrx4cab
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    • Abigail
      Child Care Provider
      • Jul 2010
      • 2417

      #3
      Why do I find the time/space % of half the bill if I only deduct the $10 the daycare phone costs each month?

      Out of our three phones, just one is 100% marketed as daycare. My cell phone I use for my two employees. My husband's phone is the first line so I know it's not deductible.

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      • EAP
        Daycare.com Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 223

        #4
        We have a similar situation, we have 4 lines on our plan and my line is used for business (and also for my personal use) would I just apply the space/time % to my portion of the phone bill and not the other 3 lines? (One line is my husband, one is for my dad and one is for my son).

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        • TomCopeland
          Business Author/Trainer
          • Jun 2010
          • 3062

          #5
          Cell phone

          Originally posted by Abigail
          Why do I find the time/space % of half the bill if I only deduct the $10 the daycare phone costs each month?

          Out of our three phones, just one is 100% marketed as daycare. My cell phone I use for my two employees. My husband's phone is the first line so I know it's not deductible.
          I assumed your second phone line is used for both business and personal purposes. If so, use your time-space %. If it's only used for your business, deduct 100% of the cost. The third cell phone (used 100% for your business) costs $10 (because it's the 3rd phone line), so you can deduct 100% of this cost.
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          • Abigail
            Child Care Provider
            • Jul 2010
            • 2417

            #6
            Originally posted by TomCopeland
            I assumed your second phone line is used for both business and personal purposes. If so, use your time-space %. If it's only used for your business, deduct 100% of the cost. The third cell phone (used 100% for your business) costs $10 (because it's the 3rd phone line), so you can deduct 100% of this cost.
            So I use my time/space % to deduct my second cell phone which i use personal but also for employees.

            Then I also deduct the $10/month from the third line which is all for daycare.

            So the second line though is also only $10 since it's add a line so if my time/space % is 64% that means I deduct $6.40 and an additional $10 for the exclusive business phone totaling $16.40/month? Our overall bill is about $140 each month and I thought their was some exeption about the add-a-line situations because the phone would cost much more if we didn't have that first line.

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            • TomCopeland
              Business Author/Trainer
              • Jun 2010
              • 3062

              #7
              Cell phone

              Originally posted by Abigail
              So I use my time/space % to deduct my second cell phone which i use personal but also for employees.

              Then I also deduct the $10/month from the third line which is all for daycare.

              So the second line though is also only $10 since it's add a line so if my time/space % is 64% that means I deduct $6.40 and an additional $10 for the exclusive business phone totaling $16.40/month? Our overall bill is about $140 each month and I thought their was some exeption about the add-a-line situations because the phone would cost much more if we didn't have that first line.
              With this new information, I'll give a different answer. Take the total monthly cost and divide by 3. Take the time-space % of one phone (the second one) and 100% of the 3rd phone. If your total bill was $150, and your time-space % was 64% you get: $32 ($50 x 64% = $32) + $50 = $82.

              Join me for a webinar “2012 Tax Changes: How to Avoid Mistakes on Your Tax Return” Tuesday, February 12th at 8:30-10:00pm Eastern Time. The cost is $25 (100% tax deductible!). To register: http://events.r20.constantcontact.co...&llr=yatrx4cab
              http://www.tomcopelandblog.com

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