Unlicensed/Illegal Daycare And Taxes

[Unregistered]

After school programs have a lot more leeway, anyway. What you now describe is so very different from what you originally posted to us. When you said illegal provider/14 kids we picture kids laying in some living room floor watching cartoons, eating cheetos and drinking mountain dew for 10-12 hours per day. ::::::

Programs that operate for less than 4 hours and only have kids over 5 are not even required to be licensed, here. They just have to pass a fire/occupancy inspection from the county. I think you will be just fine.

Now, I kindof want cheetos....

See that is why I originally thought we didn't have to be licensed! But I believe we could only operate unlicensed if it's 4 hours per week, not day :/ unless you can correct me on this?

[Cat Herder]

See that is why I originally thought we didn't have to be licensed! But I believe we could only operate unlicensed if it's 4 hours per week, not day :/ unless you can correct me on this?

I would only be quoting what I found online. I really recommend calling your CCR&R for your county. It is rule change month so they could have changed last week and have not updated online (mine did ). I do know they have some great grants going for after school programs right now.

Mine says "not more than four consecutive hours per day", so technically it could be before and after, 4 hours each.

[Unregistered]

I would only be quoting what I found online. I really recommend calling your CCR&R for your county. It is rule change month so they could have changed last week and have not updated online (mine did ). I do know they have some great grants going for after school programs right now.

Mine says "not more than four consecutive hours per day", so technically it could be before and after, 4 hours each.

Thank you so much for the info. Should I be calling the director, manager, or just the main office?? Should I tell them anything specific?

[Cat Herder]

Thank you so much for the info. Should I be calling the director, manager, or just the main office?? Should I tell them anything specific?

I would contact the Resource & Referral Specialist or Resource Coordinator for your county (scroll through the pdf). Mostly personal preference. I avoid the ones with "excutive" "manager" or "director" in their job title when I need to contact them as I have found them to be more um, abrasive. The specialists and coordinators are the ones who will be working with you and are down to earth.

Also, I just peeked at my update and I see what you are sayng. This is new verbiage here, too. "operate for no more than one session of up to four (4) consecutive hours per day and which limit attendance to no more than eight (8) hours a week per child." It came with a new grouping called "Support Centers" that I have not read yet. I bet many folks will be calling for help, not just you. :hug::hug:

[Unregistered]

I would contact the Resource & Referral Specialist or Resource Coordinator for your county (scroll through the pdf). Mostly personal preference. I avoid the ones with "excutive" "manager" or "director" in their job title when I need to contact them as I have found them to be more um, abrasive. The specialists and coordinators are the ones who will be working with you and are down to earth.

Also, I just peeked at my update and I see what you are sayng. This is new verbiage here, too. "operate for no more than one session of up to four (4) consecutive hours per day and which limit attendance to no more than eight (8) hours a week per child." I bet many folks will be calling for help, not just you. :hug::hug:

Got it. Are you based in California? I can't seem to find any info that says I can operate 4 hours/ day.

[Cat Herder]

Got it. Are you based in California? I can't seem to find any info that says I can operate 4 hours/ day.

I am not, but my state is also a Race to the Top state so our regs tend to flow the same, Federal incentives. My website flows better than yours does, though.

http://ccld.ca.gov/res/pdf/License-ExemptChildCare.pdf

[Unregistered]

I am not, but my state is also a Race to the Top state so our regs tend to flow the same, Federal incentives. My website flows better than yours does, though.

http://ccld.ca.gov/res/pdf/License-ExemptChildCare.pdf

In case anyone was interested, I do need a license. I called the licensing agency, and they were very kind. He said that I was lucky I called instead of being caught. Either way, he said as long as I submit an application, that signifies intent to apply and I can continue operating while the application processes!

[Blackcat31]

In case anyone was interested, I do need a license. I called the licensing agency, and they were very kind. He said that I was lucky I called instead of being caught. Either way, he said as long as I submit an application, that signifies intent to apply and I can continue operating while the application processes!

Oh that’s good news!! I’m so glad you got it all figured out!

[Provider]

Unlicensed

This was my former daycare person. She was watching way more than the legal amount of children. Cash only, refused to give her SS# and was not paying taxes. We recently fired her and I am debating if I should report her of if I would get hit as well for not claiming what we paid to her the past nine years. Full disclosure, this person has been watching kids from her home for 15 years and not paying taxes. What should I do? Look the other way?

So you let her watch your child/ren for nine years and your thinking of turning her in now?? Turn the other way. It didn't bother you for nine years- why does it bother you now? She cared for, fed, cleaned your child. Her heat and electric bills went up. Wear and tear on her house. Grocery bill higher. Diapers she's changed. Sooooo...I don't want you to think I'm attacking you- but NINE years your just now wanting to report her? What really happened here?

[yellowstreetlamps]

Why is that?

I think is the best preschool in Utah that represents how diligent caregivers are in giving of themselves regardless of how parents perceive things and parents do not always know how many children can and cannot be in a daycare. preschool in Utah has a small number of children so each child gets plenty of attention. As you have learned, it is always best to just contact the provider with any concerns you may have. daycare in UT have the best providers who are always willing to address any concerns you may have.

[Blackcat31]

I think is the best preschool in Utah that represents how diligent caregivers are in giving of themselves regardless of how parents perceive things and parents do not always know how many children can and cannot be in a daycare. preschool in Utah has a small number of children so each child gets plenty of attention. As you have learned, it is always best to just contact the provider with any concerns you may have. daycare in UT have the best providers who are always willing to address any concerns you may have.

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[Ac114]

A daycare business requires licensing of facilities and people. As a home-based childcare provider, you may be able to watch one or two children without a license but after that, you may have to be a licensed provider.

Actually in my state you can have up to 6 children under the age of 6, no more than 2 being under the age of 2 before needing a license. But rarely do they even look into. Our state is flooded with license exempt providers and many of them being over ratio. ��

[Blackcat31]

A daycare business requires licensing of facilities and people. As a home-based childcare provider, you may be able to watch one or two children without a license but after that, you may have to be a licensed provider.

What state are you in?

[Chris]

Can I claim daycare expenses?

I send my 2 kids to a daycare provider who is not licensed. She cares for less than 6 children. I live in Michigan. Can I claim this amt?

[TomCopeland]

unlicensed provider

I send my 2 kids to a daycare provider who is not licensed. She cares for less than 6 children. I live in Michigan. Can I claim this amt?

Yes. You can claim the child care tax credit. You want to get her Social Security number.