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  • Unregistered

    #31
    religion

    Teaching different cultures without incorporating religion and G-d is appropriate. If parents enroll the children in your center and they know that religion is incorporated in the curriculum, fine. If not, then it is not okay to assume that all of the children have the same beliefs as the operators or owners. Abuse is defined as misleading or deceiving another, and if you teach religion, teach about G-d, and parents are not informed that this is part of your program, it is abusive. I would see that as something to report to the state reps as it is not the responsibility of the child care center to impose their personal religious beliefs on the children. It's presumptious and inappropriate.

    Our country is based on freedom of choice, religion included.

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    • Blackcat31
      • Oct 2010
      • 36124

      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered
      Teaching different cultures without incorporating religion and G-d is appropriate. If parents enroll the children in your center and they know that religion is incorporated in the curriculum, fine. If not, then it is not okay to assume that all of the children have the same beliefs as the operators or owners. Abuse is defined as misleading or deceiving another, and if you teach religion, teach about G-d, and parents are not informed that this is part of your program, it is abusive. I would see that as something to report to the state reps as it is not the responsibility of the child care center to impose their personal religious beliefs on the children. It's presumptious and inappropriate.

      Our country is based on freedom of choice, religion included.
      No one said they were going to teach anything under the table or behind the parent's backs. The OP is a pastor so I am pretty sure he will be discussing his beliefs and methods of care with the parents during an interview.

      It was said "it is not the job of the early childhood provider to use religion or prayer in the classroom." Most of us aren't talking about classrooms but homes. Most of us are child care providers not early childhood education specialists with doctorates in the field. We are small business owners who operate out of our homes. We share a love of children and want to provide the best care we can with them.

      Sharing famiy cultures, traditions and religions is a wonderful way to bond with a child and family that you bring into your home and family. Few, if any, of us are operating under the rules and regs of the public school systems.

      I don't think anyone was suggesting or implying that any provider be misleading or deceitful about the things they are teaching and exposing to their clients.

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      • sharlan
        Daycare.com Member
        • May 2011
        • 6067

        #33
        No, I do not include prayer or Bible studies in my daycare. I never have, never will.

        A parent who is wanting that will chose another provider over me, no hard feelings. I keep my religion to myself and prefer not to discuss it with others. I respect others rights as long as they don't feel the need to indoctrinate me.

        My daughters had a religious provider years ago. I knew that upfront, going in. I didn't have a problem with it until she told my then 5 yo that her daddy was going to burn in hell for playing dungeons and dragons. I told her that she could either keep her opinions regarding my dh to herself or we could part ways. She felt she could get my dh to "straighten out" via our daughter. End of provider.

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        • sharlan
          Daycare.com Member
          • May 2011
          • 6067

          #34
          Originally posted by Blackcat31
          No one said they were going to teach anything under the table or behind the parent's backs. The OP is a pastor so I am pretty sure he will be discussing his beliefs and methods of care with the parents during an interview.

          It was said "it is not the job of the early childhood provider to use religion or prayer in the classroom." Most of us aren't talking about classrooms but homes. Most of us are child care providers not early childhood education specialists with doctorates in the field. We are small business owners who operate out of our homes. We share a love of children and want to provide the best care we can with them.

          Sharing famiy cultures, traditions and religions is a wonderful way to bond with a child and family that you bring into your home and family. Few, if any, of us are operating under the rules and regs of the public school systems. I don't think anyone was suggesting or implying that any provider be misleading or deceitful about the things they are teaching and exposing to their clients.
          This is true.

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          • dave4him
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 1333

            #35
            Originally posted by sharlan
            then 5 yo that her daddy was going to burn in hell for playing dungeons and dragons. End of provider.
            That is a fun game Fantasy has a big role in helping kids understand things. I played it when i was growing up and am pretty sure i wont be burning anytime soon!
            "God said, ‘I have found David son of Jesse, a man after my own heart. He will do everything I want him to do.'"
            Acts 13:22

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            • Oneluckymom
              Daycare.com Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 1008

              #36
              IMHO... We are providing a public service, it just so happens to be out of our homes. Unless we are aiming to serve a certain segment of the population which says so in writing, such as Christians, Muslims, Jewish etc. Then we should keep our personal religious practices and beliefs to ourselves. Those who have a hard time with that should be in a different line of work. We are not here to change the religious beliefs of the children in our care, whether they are in our homes or not. OP did state that he was providing a religiously based child care home...that's it.

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              • Sugar Magnolia
                Blossoms Blooming
                • Apr 2011
                • 2647

                #37
                I know I shouldn't feed the trolls, but....

                Originally posted by Unregistered
                1."If parents enroll the children in your center and they know that religion is incorporated in the curriculum, fine.
                2." Abuse is defined as misleading or deceiving another, and if you teach religion.... it is abusive."
                3 "I would see that as something to report to the state reps...... It's presumptious and inappropriate.
                1.He said he IS DISCLOSING it FULLY. Or didn't you bother to read the thread? So its "fine
                " and your comment should have ended there.
                2. Where did you get that definition? In this business, it's defined as physically or emotionally harming or threatening to harm a child.
                Your definition sounds more like "a lie".
                3. Ok, reporting an OBVIOUSLY Christian daycare for teaching Christianity? Do you honestly NOT see how stupid that sounds? No, you don't because you didn't READ the replies. EVERYONE agreed it should be disclosed, including Dave.

                To Dave: you are a strong person for ignoring this outlandish post. I think if you want to cater to Christian families, that is your right and you are doing the RIGHT thing by disclosing it. More power to you. You're a good man for wanting to be a child care provider and don't let some idiot tell you that somehow this is "abusive". I write this post not for the ignorant troll that posted that comment, but for YOU!

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                • Sprouts
                  Licensed Provider
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 846

                  #38
                  WOW I just read this post, and I am so sad to read that Joy would think that is ABUSIVE????? My husband is a devout christian and teaches my daughter about God and Jesus and morals and every story in the bible, and as a 4 year old she talks about WHATEVER is on her mind....I don't push religion on the children, but I dont want parents to be surprised if they hear my daughter talking about Jesus or God when they walk into my house. The question on my getting to know you form is to basically inform parents what kind of house they are entering, and they can decided from there if they want to continue or not.

                  SInce God was taken out of our schools and everything else in this country, the adolescent and child crime rates have gone up tremendously. How many times now days have you heard of CHILDREN raping, assaulting and killing??? I am trying to raise my children as respectful god fearing children and if anyone has a problem with that...then thats on them, not me

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