Incidents At Daycare - Recommendations Near Bothell, WA

[daycare]

I'm sort but this post made me angry.

REALLY!!!! You are more concerned about this woman's career than that of your own child and the safety of every child in that daycare.

WHY???????

Ugh. This makes me so angry. I don't Ben have anything to say. This must be a joke.

[NightOwl]

I'm hoping we're not all falling, hook, line and sinker, for a troll.

[smoka]

Thanks for the responses!

I talked to my mother-in-law, who also owns a daycare in Canada and she agreed that we should pull her out right away. I took tomorrow off to go talk to the daycare provider in person and start the new daycare hunt. I asked friends for recommendations and I got several for a 2.5+ years (preschool), so I'll have to tour a few centers which take infants tomorrow.

We may have to do drop-in care or get a stay-home nanny in the meanwhile (it's not easy to find a good daycare on short notice). Luckily, my wife does research and I work at Microsoft, so we both have pretty flexible schedules.

Thanks for all the responses and feedback!

[NightOwl]

Fantastic! Now to call cps?

[craftymissbeth]

Call CPS!!!!

Who cares about her career?! Obviously she's not too concerned about whether something horrible happens to your child or not.

In total bluntness: this is what drives me nuts when I see news articles about kids dying in daycares. It's almost ALWAYS "I knew something was off" or "I told her to stop sleeping my baby on his tummy" or "she had new bruises for a month".

Why wait until something horrific happens?

[melilley]

Call CPS!!!!

Who cares about her career?! Obviously she's not too concerned about whether something horrible happens to your child or not.

In total bluntness: this is what drives me nuts when I see news articles about kids dying in daycares. It's almost ALWAYS "I knew something was off" or "I told her to stop sleeping my baby on his tummy" or "she had new bruises for a month".

Why wait until something horrific happens?

Sorry, but wtf? In a closet? In a car seat? NO WAY!
REPORT HER!

[ACH247]

She definitely needs to be reported asap. The kids are in danger.

[daycarediva]

Get your baby out NOW and call cps. Like, yesterday. The other baby was fastened in a car seat and IN A CLOSET?? This is not, not, NOT normal.

Do not take your child back there. The first two points? ehh. Stuff happens sometimes. No provider is perfect. The third point? Run and don't look back. But she must be reported. The other parents need to know their kids are being put into closets! She will be shut down for this kind of behavior.

There is really NO explanation for a baby being put in a closet, in a car seat. If his crying was overwhelming, she could have put HERSELF in the closet for am adult "time out".

This is a huge red flag. You are on a site attended mostly by childcare providers (a few parents), and we usually jump pretty quickly to defend "our own". I've been caring for children for 24 years, and I am thinking is appropriate. I would NOT take your child back for one more day. Figure out something else, please!

Agreed. We can see things from the provider's angle and will always try to explain what could've happened or what a reasonable explanation could be. NOT THIS. There is no reason good enough for a child in a closet. None.

You MUST report this. Your child could have died. Another child could die even after you pull yours. At a minimum, she is neglecting the children. A crying infant needs attention from her caregiver, not to be put in a dark closet, strapped into a carseat (which is dangerous). If it's the end of her career, it SHOULD be...no one should be caring for children when they treat them this way.

Call CPS!!!!

Who cares about her career?! Obviously she's not too concerned about whether something horrible happens to your child or not.

In total bluntness: this is what drives me nuts when I see news articles about kids dying in daycares. It's almost ALWAYS "I knew something was off" or "I told her to stop sleeping my baby on his tummy" or "she had new bruises for a month".

Why wait until something horrific happens?

YES YES YES to all of this. IMMEDIATE CPS phone call. I would NOT return to speak to the provider. Nothing she can say/do will exonerate her from this. It is against licensing standards(here) to put a child into a closet, it's against licensing standards(here) not to have children within sight AND sound when they are awake. This is a HUGE red flashing light that other things are happening. Is it abuse? absolutely.

I wouldn't put my child in a corporate/chain center (says the owner of a quality family child care program). I would call every family child care and every small center in the area and ask if they an opening and references.

[ACH247]

The most likely scenario was that the moment you drove off she placed your child in that closet and she saw you drive up hours later and ran to get the child out of the closet. You caught her in the act and scared her and she hid the child so you wouldn't see. If that wasn't the case, why didn't she stop you to let you know that the child had been crying. I would be so pissed right now. I normally don't comment but this is unacceptable and I wouldn't be calm about it.

[cheerfuldom]

wow. glad to see you are pulling your daughter. Dont worry at all about adjusting to a new place and certainly not about an infant "making friends".....safety is always, always first. Being placed to sleep in a car seat in a closet is incredibly inappropriate. Babies should never be placed to sleep in car seat. Google positional asphyxiation.

[Thriftylady]

Glad you are pulling her. As a provider, I was going to give the provider the benefit of the doubt and say you need to have a meeting. Until you got to the closet thing. No child should ever be napping in a car seat IMHO and the closet thing, well that is so over the top I have no words. If my child had been there, they would have left right then and never went back, and I am sure you probably thought that yourself after you left and thought about it.

[Josiegirl]

The fact that she's allowing your child to not only sleep in a closet but IN her infant seat is against the regulations. You witnessed it and she admitted to it. Imagine how you may feel if instead of finding out this way you found out from a police office or fireman who found her in there dead? I don't like to be extreme like that but for reals... A baby in its car seat in the closet?? A lady I interviewed with found her child in a similar manner and pulled. She knew the lady didn't have bad intentions but cultural differences and maybe it's the same here but a child could easily die that way. Positional Asphyxiation and over heating are 2 big factors in infant death. And does screaming and confinement in a dark closet all alone sound comforting to you?? It's abuse! You felt parents should know their child was being treated that way and then you find out its your kid and now it's different?? Yikes!!

EXACTLY!!!! If you're like me, your child is the breath of your life, every smile you offer the world, every thought you think, every reason you get up every morning. If you're willing to risk bringing her back to that 'provider' one more day well............I hate to say it but where do your priorities lie?
ETA:
Ok sorry, I just read where you're taking off from work and going to search for care. GOOD!!!! I hope you can find someone that you feel safe and loving with for your dd's sake.
I hate it when parents(not you specifically) settle and don't want to ruin a provider's livelihood, even if they could hurt a defenseless child. Never second guess if what you're doing is fair or okay, especially if you have a gut feeling. When it comes to your child, she's the most precious thing to consider.

[Unregistered]

Please report. If an infant later dies in her care due to neglect and dangerous practices, could you bear that weight on your shoulders knowing what you know? I applaud you pulling your child and protecting her knowing what you now know. Please protect the other innocent little ones, whose parents may never slip in at an unplanned time.

[Josiegirl]

Side note to this whole topic; I think one of the best ways to know what kind of a daycare any parent has chosen is to show up unexpected during working hours of course. You'll get the 'real deal'. And you're allowed to.

[permanentvacation]

I decided not to comment on this.