Interviewed A New Daycare....Disappointed!!

[Unregistered]

I found a new daycare and was really excited about the way she ran her daycare. Natural/organic food, all homemade meals (no processed food, she even bakes her own bread) lots of creative ideas for kids, outdoor play. She was very what I call a "crunchy granola mom" type. She did inform me on the phone that she was a "well child" daycare and that she had a strict policy for ill children not coming to her house. I figured it was because she did not like giving her kids medicine and tried to only give her family herbs and stuff for being sick. I'm in the medical research field, so we did not see eye to eye on this subject, but I figured, to each their own.

When we went to interview her...first of all, she acted like SHE was interviewing ME. I feel that she has no right to interview me since I pay HER. Second, she busts out with, "By law, I have to tell you that my children are not immunized." I just stare at her for a minute and ask her why. She says, "We claim exemption based on our personal philosophical beliefs." The she just smiles and waits for me to reply. I am stunned...flabbergasted...I tell her that I CANNOT believe she would be so ignorant. She then proceeds to tell me, a PhD, how she has researched it for the better part of 12 years (her oldest daughter is 12, I think) and is firm in her decision and that maybe my family is not a good match for her daycare....all said with a smug smile. I could not believe the way we were treated by that ignorant hippie! I was wondering if anyone knew the daycare laws in Michigan, can I have her shut down? I will be looking into what I can do to protect the rest of our community from disease from that house!! Any information that I get from here will be appreciated and put toward that effort.

[jen]

I found a new daycare and was really excited about the way she ran her daycare. Natural/organic food, all homemade meals (no processed food, she even bakes her own bread) lots of creative ideas for kids, outdoor play. She was very what I call a "crunchy granola mom" type. She did inform me on the phone that she was a "well child" daycare and that she had a strict policy for ill children not coming to her house. I figured it was because she did not like giving her kids medicine and tried to only give her family herbs and stuff for being sick. I'm in the medical research field, so we did not see eye to eye on this subject, but I figured, to each their own.

When we went to interview her...first of all, she acted like SHE was interviewing ME. I feel that she has no right to interview me since I pay HER. Second, she busts out with, "By law, I have to tell you that my children are not immunized." I just stare at her for a minute and ask her why. She says, "We claim exemption based on our personal philosophical beliefs." The she just smiles and waits for me to reply. I am stunned...flabbergasted...I tell her that I CANNOT believe she would be so ignorant. She then proceeds to tell me, a PhD, how she has researched it for the better part of 12 years (her oldest daughter is 12, I think) and is firm in her decision and that maybe my family is not a good match for her daycare....all said with a smug smile. I could not believe the way we were treated by that ignorant hippie! I was wondering if anyone knew the daycare laws in Michigan, can I have her shut down? I will be looking into what I can do to protect the rest of our community from disease from that house!! Any information that I get from here will be appreciated and put toward that effort.

LOL!!! We ARE interviewing you! At any one time we have multiple families vying for a spot in our daycares...of course we want to pick the family who fits our personal values best! Oh my goodness...you will NOT get far with the "WE pay YOU" and "I'm a PhD" attitude! Yikes! Daycare is a collaboration! To enter into it with such a disrespectful attitude is outrageous! If you are looking for an employee, hire a nanny!

By the way...if you don't want your children around non-vac kid, you best hire a nanny and plan to home-school. I have a kid whose parents are doctors (the MD variety, not PhD) who don't vaccinate. Get over yourself.

[dEHmom]

the interview is just as much for her as it is for you.

If we were to accept EVERY family who walked in and demanded a spot, we'd all be in the looney bin right now.

As for putting her out of business, come on!

She informed you, she obviously knows that by law she had to so she did. As long as she is not hurting anyone, if a family decides they want to enroll there that is their business. That's just wrong that you're going to try and shut her down because you don't like her.

[Michael]

hhmm, We try to have an open debate here for both parents and providers. It should help impart some knowledge on what both "sides" are experiencing since that care it is a relationship for a period of time. I am always amused and amazed at the wide divide on what each side sees and expects of the other.

To be honest I would have no problem sending my children to this daycare "hippie" and I am not a hippie. Many states have guidelines, some strict some not so strict. Family daycare depends on the values of that particular family unit and you can decide whether a family is more suited for your children and beliefs. My suggestion would be to move on....

[daycare]

I found a new daycare and was really excited about the way she ran her daycare. Natural/organic food, all homemade meals (no processed food, she even bakes her own bread) lots of creative ideas for kids, outdoor play. She was very what I call a "crunchy granola mom" type. She did inform me on the phone that she was a "well child" daycare and that she had a strict policy for ill children not coming to her house. I figured it was because she did not like giving her kids medicine and tried to only give her family herbs and stuff for being sick. I'm in the medical research field, so we did not see eye to eye on this subject, but I figured, to each their own.

When we went to interview her...first of all, she acted like SHE was interviewing ME. I feel that she has no right to interview me since I pay HER. Second, she busts out with, "By law, I have to tell you that my children are not immunized." I just stare at her for a minute and ask her why. She says, "We claim exemption based on our personal philosophical beliefs." The she just smiles and waits for me to reply. I am stunned...flabbergasted...I tell her that I CANNOT believe she would be so ignorant. She then proceeds to tell me, a PhD, how she has researched it for the better part of 12 years (her oldest daughter is 12, I think) and is firm in her decision and that maybe my family is not a good match for her daycare....all said with a smug smile. I could not believe the way we were treated by that ignorant hippie! I was wondering if anyone knew the daycare laws in Michigan, can I have her shut down? I will be looking into what I can do to protect the rest of our community from disease from that house!! Any information that I get from here will be appreciated and put toward that effort.

what is she doing that she diserves to be shut down?
Guess what...everyone resereves the right NOT to be immunized... The rules is, if you start them, unless for medical reasons, you have to finish them.

And yes, we are interviewing you as well. you want a good fit from both ends... it is a relationship.... would you have dated your spouse if everything was one sided? Would you have applied for your job if there was nothing there you liked? Both parties have to be able to work together on everything so it has to go both ways..

Was this your first time looking at a place for your child?

[missnikki]

Here we go... (grabs popcorn)

[Michael]

Here we go... (grabs popcorn)

Don't grab too big of a bag. I'm only playing the trailor.

[Blackcat31]

I found a new daycare and was really excited about the way she ran her daycare. Natural/organic food, all homemade meals (no processed food, she even bakes her own bread) lots of creative ideas for kids, outdoor play. She was very what I call a "crunchy granola mom" type. She did inform me on the phone that she was a "well child" daycare and that she had a strict policy for ill children not coming to her house. I figured it was because she did not like giving her kids medicine and tried to only give her family herbs and stuff for being sick. I'm in the medical research field, so we did not see eye to eye on this subject, but I figured, to each their own.

When we went to interview her...first of all, she acted like SHE was interviewing ME. I feel that she has no right to interview me since I pay HER. Second, she busts out with, "By law, I have to tell you that my children are not immunized." I just stare at her for a minute and ask her why. She says, "We claim exemption based on our personal philosophical beliefs." The she just smiles and waits for me to reply. I am stunned...flabbergasted...I tell her that I CANNOT believe she would be so ignorant. She then proceeds to tell me, a PhD, how she has researched it for the better part of 12 years (her oldest daughter is 12, I think) and is firm in her decision and that maybe my family is not a good match for her daycare....all said with a smug smile. I could not believe the way we were treated by that ignorant hippie! I was wondering if anyone knew the daycare laws in Michigan, can I have her shut down? I will be looking into what I can do to protect the rest of our community from disease from that house!! Any information that I get from here will be appreciated and put toward that effort.

Okay, first off; is this a joke??? If not, I am sorry this comes off as b.....y (rhymes with witchy) but this type of attitude royally p's me off!

I cannot believe how judgemental and rude your post is!!! This woman went from "crunchy granola" type to "ignorant hippie" in less than 100 words....WTH? Just because you have a PhD does not make you better or smarter than her. How do you know what her reasoning or line of thinking comes from?

Many many people choose not to immunize their children. The children who are not immunized are the ones at risk...not yours, so get over yourself! I cannot believe someone with a Phd does not implement the use of critical thinking skills...there are many reasons and lots of research that says it is both a good and bad thing to immunize...But no matter what, it is NOT your place to say what is best for her children. Plus if this woman was law abiding and informed you that her kids aren't immunized don't you think the state or county that licensed her already knows about it?? Plus it isn't against the law!!!

And on a side note SHE is interviewing you! SHE gets to decide if your child(ren) can play in HER house with HER toys, HER children, HER home, HER job. SHE has the right to make the decision on whether or not SHE wants you to come to HER home.

SHE is obviously the smart one even though she has no Phd because she knew enough not to accept you into her program and it was a good thing because you turned on her in a red hot minute because she did not share YOUR thoughts and ideas!! Who is the ignorant one?

Wow!! :confused::confused:

[daycare]

I was thinking the same thing.....hmmm I love the net.. so many different walks of life..

[Unregistered]

Dear OP

If you want to try to report her, make sure you have other care first. Daycare providers feel that it is their duty to inform other providers if they suspect a parent has made a report, even if they have not - or if the report was made by a pediatrician or someone else who is aware of the situation. In this case, you may find that the openings you had a week ago are suddenly unavailable.

She should have made the issue of immunizations clear on the phone before she potentially exposed you and your child to her home.

[morgan24]

I found a new daycare and was really excited about the way she ran her daycare. Natural/organic food, all homemade meals (no processed food, she even bakes her own bread) lots of creative ideas for kids, outdoor play. She was very what I call a "crunchy granola mom" type. She did inform me on the phone that she was a "well child" daycare and that she had a strict policy for ill children not coming to her house. I figured it was because she did not like giving her kids medicine and tried to only give her family herbs and stuff for being sick. I'm in the medical research field, so we did not see eye to eye on this subject, but I figured, to each their own.

When we went to interview her...first of all, she acted like SHE was interviewing ME. I feel that she has no right to interview me since I pay HER. Second, she busts out with, "By law, I have to tell you that my children are not immunized." I just stare at her for a minute and ask her why. She says, "We claim exemption based on our personal philosophical beliefs." The she just smiles and waits for me to reply. I am stunned...flabbergasted...I tell her that I CANNOT believe she would be so ignorant. She then proceeds to tell me, a PhD, how she has researched it for the better part of 12 years (her oldest daughter is 12, I think) and is firm in her decision and that maybe my family is not a good match for her daycare....all said with a smug smile. I could not believe the way we were treated by that ignorant hippie! I was wondering if anyone knew the daycare laws in Michigan, can I have her shut down? I will be looking into what I can do to protect the rest of our community from disease from that house!! Any information that I get from here will be appreciated and put toward that effort.

I think you should hire a nanny if you want an employee. When I conduct an interview with a potential client, I like to establish that we are a working partnership in the care of your children. I am not your employee.

What would you want her shut down for? For making a choice to not immunize? That is not against any of the daycare laws or rules. Before you continue your daycare search, you should go to the state site and look up the daycare laws and rules. That way you will be familiar with them and won't be going to interview with a blind eye.

[Blackcat31]

I was thinking the same thing.....hmmm I love the net.. so many different walks of life..

I just do not get how people can say "to each his own" and then turn around and be so judgemental when the line of thinking doesn't match their ideas of what is right! This sort of narrow mindedness really gets under my skin!

And to throw that Phd comment in there! I thought people were learning to be accepting and open minded and respectful and supportive...I had no idea that "to each his own" meant it is okay as long as it is the same as their version!!!

Grrrrrr. I gotta go now, I am too mad to type.

[morgan24]

Here we go... (grabs popcorn)

HaHaHa....I didn't see this the first time I read it. Move over and share your popcorn please!!!

[daycare]

HaHaHa....I didn't see this the first time I read it. Move over and share your popcorn please!!!

I don't like popcorn, so I'll bring the beer....

[daycare]

I just do not get how people can say "to each his own" and then turn around and be so judgemental when the line of thinking doesn't match their ideas of what is right! This sort of narrow mindedness really gets under my skin!

And to throw that Phd comment in there! I though people were learning to be accepting and open minded and respectful and supportive...I had no idea that "to each his own" meant it is okay as long as it is the same as their version!!!

Grrrrrr. If gotta go now, I am too mad to type.

trust me...i'm with you on this one.....

You would also think that someone with a PHd would already know the laws on immunizations, but guess not..
geeerrr I have nothing more to say...just gonna wait to be entertained by this post...