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  • Bizzymom1111
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 98

    Has Anyone Had A Family File A FALSE Complaint To The County?

    I am so upset right now. I won't get into a ton of details, but I had an unannounced visit from the county today-on a complaint made by a dcf that termed with me a few weeks ago because I wouldn't charge the county ( shes on county ast.) for care when she wasn't working(she still wanted to bring these kids but have the tax payers pay for her day off). I called the county to let them know of her negligence to let the county know of her weekly day off that they had been paying for, and they did their own homework. Well mom was very upset at me for informing the county and pulled the kids that day. Now I had this visit and I am sooooo outraged by the lies she told the county. LIES, and not just little ones. Ones that could be very damaging to my career and reputation. these complaints stay in our PUBLIC records, even if they are unfounded. I'm sure the licensors saw through the lies, because there was a detail they noticed that I think will prove she lied, but I won't find out till next week as to what their decision is(true or false). I'm so upset right now that i can't even think straight.

    Has anyone ever been through anything like this before, because I could sure use a few words of wisdom and a little support! Thanks guys!
    ~Everything happens for a reason~
  • Childminder
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 1500

    #2
    Yeah, twice parents have filed complaints about my daycare. Twice I got 'surprise' visits from the state. The first was when I sent a bill for monies owed she texted me and said she would report me for abuse if I tried to collect. The second was when a parent wanted me to bill the state for more time than when she was bringing the kids. Told her it was illegal and she wouldn't pay me her copay. Told the state that I was drugging her daughter so the would sleep. Also that I was over count.

    Both case were not substantiated and the complaints were not put on my state record. I was told that the reports are public record if violations are found.

    You will find that if you get a false complaint it will be from someone that owes you money and 99% are state subsidy lowlifes.
    I see little people.

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    • wdmmom
      Advanced Daycare.com
      • Mar 2011
      • 2713

      #3
      I've had 1 former family turn me into DHS for exacerbating a diaper rash and for feeding their child out of moldy bottles.

      They were pissed that I wouldn't accept their notice. (It was in text form and on a SUNDAY! My contract specifically states that I only accept notice in writing and on FRIDAYS.) They were bent because I was charging them for the 2 week notice and my accrued time off. They cut me payment, turned me in, then stopped payment. Good thing DHS seen them as a disgruntled parent. They found nothing "moldy" in my home and the diaper changed couldn't be proven. (Although it's in my contract that I change kids at 9am, 12pm and 3pm and in between in necessary.)

      It was a headache and a waste of tax dollars but I was glad they turned me in! It proved that they filed a false report, the information they provided was false, and that they were just bent about paying the money that was due.

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      • littlemissmuffet
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 2194

        #4
        Hi bizzymom,

        I have never been in this situation but the pps have and the state sided with them, so that may provde you some relief.

        I just wanted to add that though it must be very difficult being turned on like that - you know who you are as a person, you know what a great daycare provider you are (so do your other parents, your DCKs, you own family and so on) and no lie can ever take that away from you. If you slept fine at night before this incident, I encourage you to continue to sleep just fine.

        This is an unfortunate part of the daycare business - try to remain focused on the positives.

        Best of luck!

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        • Meyou
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 2734

          #5
          I was reported by a neighbor who has a history of causing problems with families with kids in our neighborhood. I was investigated by CPS and the daycare dept who both made repeat visits to my home because they were serious allegations. Eventually they cleared me of all charges but it was nerve wracking and I was very upset for several weeks. All of my DCP were very, very supportive and angry that it happened.

          Most of the allegations were proven to be lies with the first visit but there was a list so it took some time to investigate.

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          • Bizzymom1111
            Daycare.com Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 98

            #6
            Originally posted by Childminder
            Yeah, twice parents have filed complaints about my daycare. Twice I got 'surprise' visits from the state. The first was when I sent a bill for monies owed she texted me and said she would report me for abuse if I tried to collect. The second was when a parent wanted me to bill the state for more time than when she was bringing the kids. Told her it was illegal and she wouldn't pay me her copay. Told the state that I was drugging her daughter so the would sleep. Also that I was over count.

            Both case were not substantiated and the complaints were not put on my state record. I was told that the reports are public record if violations are found.

            You will find that if you get a false complaint it will be from someone that owes you money and 99% are state subsidy lowlifes.
            Childminder, how terrible of those families. You are right though, people can get very revengeful when money is involved. And about the county aide people!

            Originally posted by wdmmom
            I've had 1 former family turn me into DHS for exacerbating a diaper rash and for feeding their child out of moldy bottles.

            They were pissed that I wouldn't accept their notice. (It was in text form and on a
            SUNDAY! My contract specifically states that I only accept notice in writing and on FRIDAYS.) They were bent because I was
            charging them for the 2 week notice and my accrued time off. They cut me payment, turned me in, then stopped
            payment. Good thing DHS seen them as a disgruntled parent. They found nothing "moldy" in my home and the diaper
            changed couldn't be proven. (Although it's in my contract that I change kids at 9am,
            12pm and 3pm and in between in necessary.)

            It was a headache and a waste of tax dollars but I was glad they turned me in! It proved that they filed a false report, the information they provided was false, and that they were just bent about paying the money that was due.
            thank goodness it turned out in your favor.

            Originally posted by littlemissmuffet
            Hi bizzymom,

            I have never been in this situation but the pps have and the state sided with them, so that may provde you some relief.

            I just wanted to add that though it must be very difficult being turned on like that - you know who you are as a person, you know what a great daycare provider you are (so do your other parents, your DCKs, you own family and so on) and no lie can ever take that away from you. If you slept fine at night before this incident, I encourage you to continue to sleep just fine. Thanks for that!

            This is an unfortunate part of the daycare business - try to remain focused on the positives.

            Best of luck!
            thanks for the support! I appreciate the kind words.

            Originally posted by Meyou
            I was reported by a neighbor who has a history of causing problems with families with kids in our neighborhood. I was investigated by CPS and the daycare dept who both made repeat visits to my home because they were serious allegations. Eventually they cleared me of all charges but it was nerve wracking and I was very upset for several weeks. All of my DCP were very, very supportive and angry that it happened.

            Most of the allegations were proven to be lies with the first visit but there was a list so it took some time to investigate.
            oh my gosh! What terrible people. I hope you sued for slander. That's terrible.
            ~Everything happens for a reason~

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            • Lisa4kids
              New Daycare.com Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 17

              #7
              I had the same problem with a neighbor a few years ago. My 10 year old son was assaulted on the school bus by her 11 year old son (pushing out of his seat, punching, foul language) and his 18 year old sister (grabbed him and pulled him up to the front of the bus, foul language). They both were kicked off the bus for a week and the very next day licensing showed up at my door with complaints. as soon as i seen licensing, I told her who i think called and why. the complaint was only for having an outdoor wood stove and an old truck (that the kids might get hurt on) in the far outer edge of my large back yard. This is an area where the kids are not allowed to play anyway... their area is on the other side of the yard. well, licensing inspected the wood stove, not at all hot to the touch and she couldn't get it open without really pulling up on the lever... she said it wasn't an issue. The truck still was in running order, just falling apart. there was some rust on it that the children may get hurt on (if they were allowed to play around it). I said I would get rid of it.... Well, it turned out that my husband drove it to the metal recycling, they buy by the pound..... $388 in our pocket!! Thank You Dear Neighbor!! After all this I wrote a reply to the complaint and listed the persons name and why I believe they filed a complaint for my file!

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              • Cat Herder
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 13744

                #8
                My favorite licensor told me years ago to just give her a call before terming a family to start the documentation since they almost ALWAYS call in something for spite.

                She came out and did an inspection just before the term was served and made a note of my coming forth with a parental issue for "advice" and that I had followed all documentaion and recommended guidelines to resolve the conflict. (payment issues/refusal to work on disciplinary plan).

                I am fortunate it has rarely happened but having the prep work done made it go away before it started.

                Obviously if you term alot or for "minor" reasons it WILL put you on the radar for further investigations and unannounced visits, so I do advise you choose your battles well.
                - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                • jen
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 1832

                  #9
                  Yep. One of my dcd called me drunk of his butt from his boat with his children on board. I called dcm (they are divorced) and let her know what was up. She called the police who met him as he got off the river at 11pm in a thunderstorm...he blew a .17

                  Shortly after that I got visit from the DHS investigator. I pretty much expected it, but it was nerve-wracking anyway. I had the police report which indicated that I had called Mom which let her to contact the police.

                  She cleared me before she left the house.

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                  • Meeko
                    Advanced Daycare.com Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 4351

                    #10
                    I had a state inspector tell me that they are required to come out if they get a complaint, but that they know before they go, that most are unfounded and that parents are simply trying to get back at a provider for being required to pay up. It's sadly just part of the job.

                    I had a mom who was on state aid and had her child care paid for by them. She didn'y tell them or me that she had been fired from her job and yet she was still bringing the kids to me. The state found out and told them the money had to be repaid. She came to me and told me I had to give the money back to the state!!!!! I explained to her that I had tended the kids , was paid and that was that. SHE was required to pay back the state. Her state case worker told her that too.......but she couldn't see it and insisted that as I had received the money, I had to give it back.

                    The state told her she wouldn't get any more state aid until she paid it back and she blamed me for the problems that caused and called DSF and accused me of abusing her children. Lucky for me she's not the sharpest tool in the shed and told lots of lies that could be proven wrong. She called the police and told them my husband had been calling her and threatening her. She didn't stop to think that the number she gave them as the number that had been calling her, was a cell phone number. TMobile could verify that NOT one call had been made to her!

                    Any way...the inspector that came out actually asked me if anyone owed me money. (it was 2 weeks notice) I said yes and she just nodded and said "It's amazing how many parents suddenly "remember" that day care providers are "abusive" AFTER they leave the day care and AFTER they find out you want their money!!!

                    So they see this a lot. They still have to investigate just in case...but for the most part, they know what happens and how vindictive some parents can be.

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                    • daysofelijah
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 286

                      #11
                      Yes. I had a young mom take advantage of my closing times and the last straw was when she was over an hour past closing time with no call. So I gave her notice.

                      She got mad and called the county and reported a bunch of false claims and complained about a bunch of things (my dogs, my changing of hours, not dressing her daughter appropriately, etc.). So I had the lovely unannounced visit from my licensor to investigate. She found all her complains unfounded and noted it in my record. Stinks though because that remains on my record as a complaint filed even though it was unfounded.

                      She was my first and LAST state pay client. I learned my lesson on that one.

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                      • Blackcat31
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 36124

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Catherder
                        My favorite licensor told me years ago to just give her a call before terming a family to start the documentation since they almost ALWAYS call in something for spite.

                        She came out and did an inspection just before the term was served and made a note of my coming forth with a parental issue for "advice" and that I had followed all documentaion and recommended guidelines to resolve the conflict. (payment issues/refusal to work on disciplinary plan).

                        I am fortunate it has rarely happened but having the prep work done made it go away before it started.

                        Obviously if you term alot or for "minor" reasons it WILL put you on the radar for further investigations and unannounced visits, so I do advise you choose your battles well.
                        Definitely in the top ten for best advice ever......

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                        • Bizzymom1111
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 98

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Catherder
                          My favorite licensor told me years ago to just give her a call before terming a family to start the documentation since they almost ALWAYS call in something for spite.

                          She came out and did an inspection just before the term was served and made a note of my coming forth with a parental issue for "advice" and that I had followed all documentaion and recommended guidelines to resolve the conflict. (payment issues/refusal to work on disciplinary plan).

                          I am fortunate it has rarely happened but having the prep work done made it go away before it started.

                          Obviously if you term alot or for "minor" reasons it WILL put you on the radar for further investigations and unannounced visits, so I do advise you choose your battles well.
                          I did not term her. She put her two weeks in because I told her that I can't/ won't charge the county for her day off. After I got notice, I called her worker to let her know I received notice and give her their last day, and after chatting a bit I mentioned the situation of her not working the one day a week, and it was news to her, so she investigated for herself. I did nothing wrong, but I guess trying to run my business honestly.
                          ~Everything happens for a reason~

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                          • grandmom
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 766

                            #14
                            never
                            under-estimate
                            the
                            power
                            of
                            an
                            angry
                            parent

                            Translation:
                            at any time a parent can turn on you
                            do your business legally and make sure parents know that
                            keep good records including date and conversations at interview
                            same with parent meetings
                            develop trust with your licensor
                            be careful what you share with other parents about the complaint as it could make them begin to suspect you for other things

                            and know that it is part of the job. Do your job, but know that if you work with children, you'll likely get reported for something.

                            Like the other posters, I'm also speaking from experience. Yes it takes the wind out of your sails for a while, but I came out stronger and more determined.

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                            • nannyde
                              All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 7320

                              #15
                              Originally posted by grandmom
                              never
                              under-estimate
                              the
                              power
                              of
                              an
                              angry
                              parent

                              Translation:
                              at any time a parent can turn on you
                              do your business legally and make sure parents know that
                              keep good records including date and conversations at interview
                              same with parent meetings
                              develop trust with your licensor
                              be careful what you share with other parents about the complaint as it could make them begin to suspect you for other things

                              and know that it is part of the job. Do your job, but know that if you work with children, you'll likely get reported for something.

                              Like the other posters, I'm also speaking from experience. Yes it takes the wind out of your sails for a while, but I came out stronger and more determined.
                              When you give a parent a hard fast no... get your house ready for an inspection. When the inspector comes... answer the door with "Welcome... I was expecting you. My files are here... and let me know if I can help you with anything else".
                              http://www.amazon.com/Daycare-Whispe...=doing+daycare

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