I've Had It!!! Long Rant/ Wanting To Term NOW!

[momofboys]

Thanks Guys!

My term procedure states this:

This contract can be termed by parent or provider by giving a two weeks notice in advance with a ending date for any reason. Payment by the parent is due for that notice period even if the child is not in care. The provider may ter the contract without giving notice if the parent does not make payment when payment is due. Failure by the provider to enforce one or more of these terms of contract does not waive the right of the provider to enforce any other terms of contract.

So with that saying, is that the loop hole to get me out of the two weeks?

Do you think they will pay you for those 2 weeks? I would say it could be a loophole but maybe not. How easy will it be for them to find a new provider? IF they are willing to pay you up front fien but I would say if they are unwilling to pay the 2 weeks upfront you have the right to term immediately. You could say fees are due in advance for the next 2 weeks until their last day of care. If they don't or won't pay then term immediately.

[countrymom]

I wouldn't have let them stay, this is where you need a back bone. Now imagine if you had to go to the dr or something, do you think they would have cared, nope. Acually you should have called back and said to come and pick your kid up because you had to go and do something. Or better call mom and chew her head off.

[momma2girls]

I also had to add this to my contract- your last 2 weeks of daycare must be paid upfront.

[E Daycare]

Too bad the dad saw you peek out the window!!! I honestly would not have opened the door. I've had parents do that to me. . . tell me I am not needed & then in the morning will call me at 10 am asking if they could drop off as they now need me for a dr's appt or whatever last-minute stuff they plan to use me for. I make my plans & I leave the house. I would term, you sound mad & I don't blame you. They did not call when you required them to. Did the dad sound sorry when you said she had not called & you made plans. I think the best thing you coudl have done was to say sorry but I am on my way out the door. No one notified me & I can't take another child with me. None of their business where you were going. I know easier said then done. But honestly I would term & be done. What day are they paid through? That is when I would end it. IF they are paid through tomorrow tell them that is their last day.

Heres the kicker, they paid for just Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday care. Today was her day off so she hasnt paid for today!

Who shows up at someones house and just drops a kid off at 10am? Im so mad that he saw me peaking out the window! Im so mad I was too shocked and nice to let him push his way in my door! Im so mad that Ive let it get this far but needed the $100 a weeks to help with groceries but its not worth it anymore. Ill **** it up, eat the cost and stop buying myself food and just feed my kid and dck. Im so mad that there are families like this out there that inconvenience other families, their own kids and lives.

I knew as soon as the father came back that it would go to crap. Im sorry I was right.

Im packing her stuff and having it by the door today with term letter in hand and will refund their deposit.

[laundrymom]

I'd call tell them your sick,... Come immediately to pick up. If dad says anything tell him you are sick and unable to keep his child he has 15 min to pick up Then go to bounce with your child. You ARE sick. Of this treatment. Then term this evening. Do it NOW.

[E Daycare]

Well with your advice, even though I want to term today I will do the proper 2 weeks notice. This way they can find care and I wont have to worry about them being sue happy. Now with any luck they wont show up again but I bet they will. They arent ones to miss care so I doubt they will stop bringing her. If they do Ill be really surprised!

[momofboys]

Well with your advice, even though I want to term today I will do the proper 2 weeks notice. This way they can find care and I wont have to worry about them being sue happy. Now with any luck they wont show up again but I bet they will. They arent ones to miss care so I doubt they will stop bringing her. If they do Ill be really surprised!

Just make sure you get paid for today (since you say they hadn't paid for today) & REQUIRE payment in advance for the next 2 weeks. No pay, no play!

[missnikki]

I read your contract terms, and I took it to mean that the second they don't pay what is due when it is normally due, then you can cut them off. If they are in good standing financially right now, you have to do the 2 weeks, and cannot change your payment due date (that would be THEIR loophole to get out of paying).

The first day they skip on payment is the child's last day.

[MyAngels]

Hand them the termination letter (with two weeks notice), along with a letter that, effective immediately, your rates are doubling ::. Just Kidding. Sort of .

[E Daycare]

Yeah I just typed up my letter to read that their last day will be April 14th and their ending balace is X amount. I deducted their enrollment balance so for 8 days of care they pay just a bit more then what one would pay for a full time spot in my care. Almost getting a week free since they are highly discounted to begin with, only come 4 days and have a enrollment fee to subtract. Id like to get the ending balance but if they dont come or pay, to be honest with you, I wont go looking for it.

I want to wash my hands of this family and call it a day. Or in my case call it the past 6 months.

[nannyde]

It sounds like you are angry because you didn't say no to them. Now you are willing to give up the money. The timing of that is off. You need to "get to that place" BEFORE they ruin your day.

Piece of advice.... don't give gray times to them. If you tell them you MIGHT care for the kid IF this or that happens... all they are going to here is that you will take the kid. PERIOD They don't hear the terms... just the yes.

Best to get a definite yes and the money up front. Then you can plan your day accordingly.

You can put a BIG red CLOSED sign on your door for future situations like this. It gives you something to point to when the Dad says he wants care.

You could have just said "Oh we are CLOSED today" and pointed to the sign. If he says the Mom called say "sounds like you guys have something to talk about tonight".

[DaycareMomma]

I would term immediately. You said they paid for Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday NOT THURSDAY.... So they haven't paid for today... Term them. You cannot keep letting them walk all over you like this. I would also call dcm and chew her hinney.

[cheerfuldom]

I agree with nanny...rewrite your contract in a firm, no gray areas way. Do not allow this to happen again with any family. Write in that you can term at any time for any reason with no notice and no refund (thats what I have). They are doing this to you because you have let them. Starting out firm with the next family is the only way to go.

[wdmmom]

I wouldn't have given him the opportunity to say "there you go". You seen him at the door....it doesn't mean you had to answer it. You should have known what was going to happen by opening.

If you really had no intention of watching DCG, you should have told dad NO and told him to contact the backup provider. Or...you could have contacted the emergency contacts to pick the child up.

[Angelwings36]

I would be irate and there would be no way in blooming h*** that I would have accepted the little girl that day. I would have been straight up and told the dad "I'm sorry but your wife was suppose to let me know by 10pm last night whether she needed care today or not. She didn't call me by 10pm last night so I went ahead and booked an appointment for today as I have no other children present. (I would use the term appointment because at this point it is really none of their business what you have planned for the day)" Then I would have said, "I'm sorry but I'm just on my way out the door, I will see you guys tomorrow!"

Now if the dad decided at this point to put in his two bits and argue that he was leaving his daughter because his wife had tried calling this morning, I would have said "Sorry but the call was to be made by 10pm last night, even if she did try calling this morning it would have been too late."

If he continued to push things at that point I would have pulled out my contract...

In my contract under the category "termination" I have this phrase included...

If the childcare provider is treated inappropriately, disrespected or harassed by the parents childcare services can be immediately terminated by the childcare provider. In this case any fees paid prior will be non-refundable.

This is the only phrase under 'termination' where I have the power to term on the spot without refunding the parents and given the circumstances it would be used it I think that is only fair.

I would have then told dad, "consider this your termination." And either closed the door or walked away into another part of the house until he left to avoid further confrontation infront of his daughter.

In your case...

Does it state in your contract that fees must be paid prior to the child attending care?

If so then I would message the family today (as soon as their daughter is back in their care) and inform them that you were very disappointed with todays happenings and that being that they have not paid their fee on time for today you are terming as of now and will use the payment given to you for friday to cover today's missed fees.