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    #16
    Originally posted by dEHmom
    If you can't tell, I wasn't a regular smoker of it.

    And I was not doing daycare at the time.

    I was VERY clear in my explaination to show that I am not a chronic user. I don't normally use it. And I wasn't sitting there with my baby and getting high.

    While I can appreciate you have your opinion, you do not need to put me down.

    I don't do drugs. I don't generally drink to get drunk, but I have on occassion gotten drunk, and that does not make me trash.

    You say to each his own, yet, you put me down for sharing my story. An opinion is an opinion, but it doesn't make you better than me.
    Yes I got that you didnt smoke it all the time, I get that it wasnt during daycare hours, I get that you werent smoking while feeding your baby, but a one month old doesnt sleep through the night and since he was so premature if it were my kid I would want to be in my most alert state of mind. I just dont agree with being high while feeding a baby, not even the fact that you werent puffing away while feeding them the fact that you were puffing away at all. I just think certain behaviors should stop when you are an adult. I didnt say I was better than you I said that is not my life style and the parents that I have that are high around their kids I do think are trash. And I am sure they think Im a stuck up BI*** but I dont care, I never have had the fear of someone thinking I was high, I have never had fear of cops coming to my home and I have never had the fear of my baby choking while I was stoned out of my mind.

    If I was a parent and I knew that my daycare provider even had a small amount of illegal drugs in there home that would be the end of that and I would make sure to let every other parent know what was inside their home.

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    • missnikki
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 1033

      #17
      I hardly think it's dangerous to laugh, eat, and sleep yourself silly once in a while.

      Flame me all you want, with responsible use it is perfectly fine IMHO.

      I'll join the ranks of George Clooney, Willie Nelson, and John Kennedy, Jr, even if they are 'loser trash'.

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      • youretooloud
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 1955

        #18
        Originally posted by missnikki
        , Willie Nelson.
        LOL Have you seen this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iezk-z6hy9k

        OK.. I am pro-pot. But, I will never, ever smoke pot while it's illegal. I don't ever do anything illegal. I won't even have a few sips of alcohol and drive. Ever. I am the most rule following person in the entire world.

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        • missnikki
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 1033

          #19
          Oh I'm with ya on that one too, you'retooloud! That's why I have a green card for a particular situation, which allows me the occasional stress relief as needed (rare, trust me.)

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          • dEHmom
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 2355

            #20
            I'm going to check that video out.

            I agree with you too, I actually called the cops a few times to inform them of my mom driving after have 2 beers, and friends who were supposed to stay here the night, but decided it was better to leave and go to the bar (and drive).

            I cannot stand people who drive intoxicated/inebriated. It ticks me off because it's not them I am worried about, it is the person they might hurt or kill.


            It is not ok to be intoxicated in public imo (unless you're drinking at a bar). I prefer to drink in the comfort of my own home. . Then I NEVER have to worry about anything like rides home, where's my car, etc.

            I heard in usa it's easy to get a green card. Go and fill out a form, say your back hurts and you get it. Is it true? .

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            • marniewon
              Daycare.com Member
              • Aug 2010
              • 897

              #21
              Originally posted by dEHmom
              I'm going to check that video out.

              I agree with you too, I actually called the cops a few times to inform them of my mom driving after have 2 beers, and friends who were supposed to stay here the night, but decided it was better to leave and go to the bar (and drive).

              I cannot stand people who drive intoxicated/inebriated. It ticks me off because it's not them I am worried about, it is the person they might hurt or kill.


              It is not ok to be intoxicated in public imo (unless you're drinking at a bar). I prefer to drink in the comfort of my own home. . Then I NEVER have to worry about anything like rides home, where's my car, etc.

              I heard in usa it's easy to get a green card. Go and fill out a form, say your back hurts and you get it. Is it true? .
              I agree that it's way more convenient to drink at home. I prefer that also.

              As far as pot goes, I don't do it. Not because I'm some goody-two-shoes - it just makes me sick!! The few times I tried it I got sick as a dog. Now, my ex did it daily, and I was okay with it as long as he did it outside (and stored it outside - no way was I losing my kids because of his "habit"). He was fairly enjoyable when high, and fairly abusive while drunk. So which do you think I preferred? LOL

              A very long time ago I worked at a convenience store. It was Christmas Eve and our (of all people) beer distributor came in completely wasted. You could smell it on him, he passed out in the cooler for a few, etc. When he was done with the delivery, he got back in his huge semi and started to drive away. As he pulled out I could see him drinking from a beer can. I called the cops ASAP and they caught up to him just down the road. Can you imagine the damage he could have done with that semi in a residential area on a holiday?? I had to go testify in court. His lawyer tried to say that he was sick and taking cold medicine. Ha Ha. Yeah, he lost his CDL (or whatever that license is) and went to jail.

              I'm on the side that pot should be legal, regulated and taxed like cigarettes or alcohol. I don't have a problem with people who smoke pot. As long as it's not all day long every day. Same with drinking.

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              • Meyou
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 2734

                #22
                I think it's shameful that we are "ok" with alcohol being legal despite all the drunk driving accidents, teen deaths and other horror stories associated with drinking but weed is a gateway to heck. Pro-weed all the way.

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                • dEHmom
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 2355

                  #23
                  Originally posted by marniewon
                  I agree that it's way more convenient to drink at home. I prefer that also.

                  As far as pot goes, I don't do it. Not because I'm some goody-two-shoes - it just makes me sick!! The few times I tried it I got sick as a dog. Now, my ex did it daily, and I was okay with it as long as he did it outside (and stored it outside - no way was I losing my kids because of his "habit"). He was fairly enjoyable when high, and fairly abusive while drunk. So which do you think I preferred? LOL

                  A very long time ago I worked at a convenience store. It was Christmas Eve and our (of all people) beer distributor came in completely wasted. You could smell it on him, he passed out in the cooler for a few, etc. When he was done with the delivery, he got back in his huge semi and started to drive away. As he pulled out I could see him drinking from a beer can. I called the cops ASAP and they caught up to him just down the road. Can you imagine the damage he could have done with that semi in a residential area on a holiday?? I had to go testify in court. His lawyer tried to say that he was sick and taking cold medicine. Ha Ha. Yeah, he lost his CDL (or whatever that license is) and went to jail.

                  I'm on the side that pot should be legal, regulated and taxed like cigarettes or alcohol. I don't have a problem with people who smoke pot. As long as it's not all day long every day. Same with drinking.
                  wow, glad his career is down tube as a driver!!! .

                  It makes me mad watching some things that go on. And i hate that people think pot is the same as crack, etc. Drugs are drugs, some are legal, some are not. They are all dangerous if used improperly.

                  Hubs was regular in the sense that he did it every night before bed. And he is much more tolerable when high. It ****s because it was a little too late by the time I realized this!!! hahahahahahahaha. We were already married with kids before I realized he's almost unbearable when he's sober.

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                  • marniewon
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 897

                    #24
                    Originally posted by dEHmom
                    wow, glad his career is down tube as a driver!!! .

                    It makes me mad watching some things that go on. And i hate that people think pot is the same as crack, etc. Drugs are drugs, some are legal, some are not. They are all dangerous if used improperly.

                    Hubs was regular in the sense that he did it every night before bed. And he is much more tolerable when high. It ****s because it was a little too late by the time I realized this!!! hahahahahahahaha. We were already married with kids before I realized he's almost unbearable when he's sober.
                    Yes, I used to work at a bar and a guy used to come in all the time. He was hooked on oxy and drank quite a bit also. He died. Was a shame, he was a young guy and he and his wife just had a baby. Sad. But just goes to prove that drugs are drugs and legal or not, they can kill you (or wreck your life).

                    That's exactly my ex! Didn't realize that I preferred him high until we were married with babies. Up to that point I'd never seen him just drunk, and didn't realize what a mean drunk he was.

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                    • dEHmom
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 2355

                      #25
                      Originally posted by marniewon
                      Yes, I used to work at a bar and a guy used to come in all the time. He was hooked on oxy and drank quite a bit also. He died. Was a shame, he was a young guy and he and his wife just had a baby. Sad. But just goes to prove that drugs are drugs and legal or not, they can kill you (or wreck your life).

                      That's exactly my ex! Didn't realize that I preferred him high until we were married with babies. Up to that point I'd never seen him just drunk, and didn't realize what a mean drunk he was.
                      Yeah, my hubs isn't exactly mean drunk, but if he drinks hard liquior he gets annoying, then obnoxious, then mouthy and passes out. If he drinks beer he gets goofy. so it really depends of the flavor he chooses.

                      I never really noticed that he was high all the time when I first met him, because he was always like that since he was like 13 yo and always had a hat on so couldn't really see the eyes much. As he got older, he smoked less and less, and then eventually none at all. But while we were a couple, he only smoked before bed.

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                      • Unregistered

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Meyou
                        I think it's shameful that we are "ok" with alcohol being legal despite all the drunk driving accidents, teen deaths and other horror stories associated with drinking but weed is a gateway to heck. Pro-weed all the way.
                        Maybe as a society we need to not be okay with drunkenness, then. The problem with telling a drunk driver not to drive is that they lacked the ability to make a reasonable decision when drunk!

                        So I have to wonder, wouldn't the same thing happen with weed if it were legalized and more readily available?

                        I'm okay with alcohol, I'm not okay with getting drunk. That's where I get stuck on the legal pot argument--most people I know who drink are very good at limiting themselves. Not just knowing not to drive when drunk, but not getting drunk in the first place, especially when they're responsible for their child (awake or asleep). The people I know who smoke weed, however, smoke to get high.

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                        • QualiTcare
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 1502

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered
                          Yes I got that you didnt smoke it all the time, I get that it wasnt during daycare hours, I get that you werent smoking while feeding your baby, but a one month old doesnt sleep through the night and since he was so premature if it were my kid I would want to be in my most alert state of mind. I just dont agree with being high while feeding a baby, not even the fact that you werent puffing away while feeding them the fact that you were puffing away at all. I just think certain behaviors should stop when you are an adult. I didnt say I was better than you I said that is not my life style and the parents that I have that are high around their kids I do think are trash. And I am sure they think Im a stuck up BI*** but I dont care, I never have had the fear of someone thinking I was high, I have never had fear of cops coming to my home and I have never had the fear of my baby choking while I was stoned out of my mind.

                          If I was a parent and I knew that my daycare provider even had a small amount of illegal drugs in there home that would be the end of that and I would make sure to let every other parent know what was inside their home.
                          who had fear of cops coming to their home? i wasn't afraid when the cop came to my home (for NO REASON) because i wasn't doing anything wrong. i wasn't high. i actually hadn't smoked since before i became pregnant. i was simply stating that it was the moment i decided that i would never do it again. the consequences when i was young and didn't have children were worth the risk, but once i had a child the consequences weren't worth the risk so i didn't do it.

                          i know, how trashy of me!

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                          • QualiTcare
                            Advanced Daycare.com Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 1502

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered
                            Maybe as a society we need to not be okay with drunkenness, then. The problem with telling a drunk driver not to drive is that they lacked the ability to make a reasonable decision when drunk!

                            So I have to wonder, wouldn't the same thing happen with weed if it were legalized and more readily available?

                            I'm okay with alcohol, I'm not okay with getting drunk. That's where I get stuck on the legal pot argument--most people I know who drink are very good at limiting themselves. Not just knowing not to drive when drunk, but not getting drunk in the first place, especially when they're responsible for their child (awake or asleep). The people I know who smoke weed, however, smoke to get high.
                            come on - you drink to get a buzz and you smoke to get a buzz. saying that people who drink can drink without getting drunk, but people who smoke do it to get HIGH is playing with words.

                            what's the difference in drinking a beer or two (enough to ge a buzz, but not be drunk) and smoking a hit or two (again, enough to have a buzz, but not be HIGH)?

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                            • Unregistered

                              #29
                              Originally posted by QualiTcare
                              come on - you drink to get a buzz and you smoke to get a buzz. saying that people who drink can drink without getting drunk, but people who smoke do it to get HIGH is playing with words.

                              what's the difference in drinking a beer or two (enough to ge a buzz, but not be drunk) and smoking a hit or two (again, enough to have a buzz, but not be HIGH)?
                              I thought buzzed was the same thing as drunk? I don't mean that in a mean way, just that seriously, I've always heard that if you're "buzzed" you've had too much to drive. My DH is sober 4 yrs, and in his drinking years he always said he "just wanted a nice buzz." He wanted to be drunk, and will admit so now. Sorry, maybe it's just semantics.

                              IRL, the only people I know personally who smoke don't care if they're affected. They want to be affected, and a couple of them think nothing of driving while flat-out stoned.

                              Affected by alcohol or affected by weed--it's still a problem. And I don't see how making weed legal does any good for anyone (not talking medical).

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                              • Meyou
                                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 2734

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered
                                Maybe as a society we need to not be okay with drunkenness, then. The problem with telling a drunk driver not to drive is that they lacked the ability to make a reasonable decision when drunk!

                                So I have to wonder, wouldn't the same thing happen with weed if it were legalized and more readily available?

                                I'm okay with alcohol, I'm not okay with getting drunk. That's where I get stuck on the legal pot argument--most people I know who drink are very good at limiting themselves. Not just knowing not to drive when drunk, but not getting drunk in the first place, especially when they're responsible for their child (awake or asleep). The people I know who smoke weed, however, smoke to get high.
                                What makes you think weed isn't readily available now?? It is but at higher prices and lesser qualities than it would be if it was legalized and regulated. Weed is going through the same paces as alcohol did 100 years ago. 100 years ago Al Capone was one of the most wanted men in the USA and the world because he sold whisky. Now every cornerstore in the US sells it. What's changed with the liquor?? Nothing that I can see...its just the socially acceptable standard has changed.

                                Noone should drive while taking any type of perception altering substance. Alcohol, illegal drugs, legal drugs, huffable substances or whatever....the legality or illegality of the substance has NOTHING to do with my opinion on whether people should be driving. That's pretty much a given isn't it?? That people shouldn't drive all messed up? Technically we could included sleep deprived and emotionally distraught people since I don't think they should drive either.

                                My problem is that our governments are dragging their feet on legalizing weed when in comparison it's much less harmful than its legal and socially acceptable counterpart alcohol. They're also missing out on an opportunity to tax and control the drug which has a hugely useful and PROFITABLE "side product" of hemp which has hundreds of uses from clothing to paper. Missing an opportunity to relieve a strain on our criminal justice systems for all those tax payers dollars spend prosecution of every teen found with a gram in their pocket. In fact by not legalizing it they're contributing to the ease in which drug dealers find their customers.

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