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  • Cat Herder
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 13744

    #61
    Jen,

    Even if she did report it, this would be investigated by local authorities...

    The ER Doc is required to report these kinds of injuries. A femur fracture in an non-ambulatory infant is an automatic investigation. This is especially dependant on the type of fracture.

    I think that is what everyone is alluding to.

    Alot of us are waiting for an update..... I, myself, am beginning to fear the worst because of the silence.

    Op, please, please update...
    - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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    • cillybean83
      Daycare.com Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 544

      #62
      I was thinking the same thing cat...the silence is a bit disturbing! I don't think anyone wants to scare the OP or hurt her feelings, but like others have said, the fact that this was a baby with a broken leg, that's a red flag. Of course accidents happen, but the doctor, the insurance, the authorities, and even to a certain extent the parents don't KNOW the OP well enough to just say "oh she would NEVER do something to endanger this baby...so we don't need to investigate"....kwim?

      My only question that has a red flag attached is...why was a baby who cant even crawl left on the floor with a toddler running around...that's probably what everyone else is going to be asking too...

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      • jen
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 1832

        #63
        Originally posted by Catherder
        Jen,

        Even if she did report it, this would be investigated by local authorities...

        The ER Doc is required to report these kinds of injuries. A femur fracture in an non-ambulatory infant is an automatic investigation. This is especially dependant on the type of fracture.

        I think that is what everyone is alluding to.

        Alot of us are waiting for an update..... I, myself, am beginning to fear the worst because of the silence.

        Op, please, please update...
        I hear ya' Cat, and I totally get that licesing is going to look in to it.

        However, having been through this with a kid with a broken collar bone, it just wasn't this big scary thing that it is being made out to be here. I reported it, licensing had me tell them about it, they spoke to the parent, and that was it. An accident, they happen...they didn't even come to the house.

        I'm not saying that this provider will have the same experience, what I am saying is that the sky is not falling. When the physician makes his report, he will indicate if there are any signs of abuse. They will be checking for old fractures, suspicious bruising, etc. In the absence of these types of things, his report will indicate that no signs of abuse or negligence are present, which will likely be satisfactory for licesing.

        Personally, I think it is important to keep a cool head in these instances. Do the right things and move forward. Worrying about things that haven't happened, and probably won't, is a waste of enegery.

        It is enough to say, "Please make sure you cover yourself. Always report, it looks better should it come up later." I don't see the point in anything beyond that, except to making people nervous and scared.

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        • jen
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 1832

          #64
          I could be wrong, I'm just guessing, but perhaps her lawyer told her NOT to post anything else about the incident on an open forum...

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          • Cat Herder
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 13744

            #65
            Originally posted by jen
            I hear ya' Cat, and I totally get that licesing is going to look in to it.

            However, having been through this with a kid with a broken collar bone, it just wasn't this big scary thing that it is being made out to be here. I reported it, licensing had me tell them about it, they spoke to the parent, and that was it. An accident, they happen...they didn't even come to the house.

            I'm not saying that this provider will have the same experience, what I am saying is that the sky is not falling. When the physician makes his report, he will indicate if there are any signs of abuse. They will be checking for old fractures, suspicious bruising, etc. In the absence of these types of things, his report will indicate that no signs of abuse or negligence are present, which will likely be satisfactory for licesing.

            Personally, I think it is important to keep a cool head in these instances. Do the right things and move forward. Worrying about things that haven't happened, and probably won't, is a waste of enegery.

            It is enough to say, "Please make sure you cover yourself. Always report, it looks better should it come up later." I don't see the point in anything beyond that, except to making people nervous and scared.
            Normally I would agree, but this is the about the fact that it is a femur fracture on a non-ambulatory infant.....

            Not a collar bone, forearm, finger, tooth or a toe....

            This is one of those "RED FLAG" INJURIES....

            This is straight from Child Abuse recognition training the registered providers are required to take here:

            Femoral fractures in nonambulating infants are generally felt to be attributable to abuse in the absence of significant trauma or underlying organic pathology. The investigation of such fractures includes a report to appropriate social service and law enforcement agencies, and legal involvement.

            I don't think anyone is trying to scare the OP, I think we are scared for her....YKWIM? I do think it is wonderful you are backing her up in her absense.... I just wish she would update so we can take a sigh of relief..
            - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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            • Cat Herder
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 13744

              #66
              Originally posted by jen
              I could be wrong, I'm just guessing, but perhaps her lawyer told her NOT to post anything else about the incident on an open forum...
              Maybe, but a "I am ok, little guy is doing well, parents and I are working together.." or anything like that would be much appreciated...
              - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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              • jen
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 1832

                #67
                Originally posted by Catherder
                Maybe, but a "I am ok, little guy is doing well, parents and I are working together.." or anything like that would be much appreciated...
                Yes, it would be appreciated! However, the lack of that update doesn't give us cause or the right to speculate on WHY the poster didn't update. Which leads me back to the whole point of my posts...

                We don't KNOW whats going to happen, we can speculate on what MIGHT happen, but speculation is pointless. A better use of the collective energy of the group (in my opinion) might go to lending support and constructive advice based on what we KNOW.

                Telling someone to report to licensing is constructive, suggesting that they document carefully and listen to their attorney is constructive. Suggesting that it may be taken out of the hands of the parents and the provider, that it may be looked at as abuse, all that is just speculation. It MIGHT happen, but we don't KNOW that, so what is the point of bringing it up?

                OP... I hope all is going well with you. When you feel comfortable, I hope you will update us on the situation. Keep you chin up, listen to your attorney and family, pick out the good advice on the post, and don't give random speculation a second thought. There is NO point in worrying about what hasn't happened...you just have to cross that bridge IF you come to it.

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