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    Intentional puking

    Need advice how do you handle a three yearold who pukes on purpose? Last week it was at snack and now at lunch. Need to nip this pronto! How to address this with the parent? Only have a few weeks left as this kid is headed to preschool Thank God! Can't send him home because that would be giving him what he wants. Advice please!!!
  • Cat Herder
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 13744

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    Need advice how do you handle a three yearold who pukes on purpose? Last week it was at snack and now at lunch. Need to nip this pronto! How to address this with the parent? Only have a few weeks left as this kid is headed to preschool Thank God! Can't send him home because that would be giving him what he wants. Advice please!!!
    "Can't send him home because that would be giving him what he wants." - That is what I'd do. Send him home. Vomiting = Go home.

    It would be up to the parents to make it NOT what he wants.

    Parent: It's a verb.
    - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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    • amberrose3dg
      Daycare.com Member
      • Feb 2017
      • 1343

      #3
      Originally posted by Cat Herder
      "Can't send him home because that would be giving him what he wants." - That is what I'd do. Send him home. Vomiting = Go home.

      It would be up to the parents to make it NOT what he wants.

      Parent: It's a verb.

      same here

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      • boy_mom
        Daycare.com Member
        • Oct 2017
        • 208

        #4
        Originally posted by Cat Herder
        "Can't send him home because that would be giving him what he wants." - That is what I'd do. Send him home. Vomiting = Go home.

        It would be up to the parents to make it NOT what he wants.

        Parent: It's a verb.
        Say its again louder for the people in the back!!!!

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        • storybookending
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jan 2017
          • 1484

          #5
          Originally posted by Cat Herder
          Parent: It's a verb.
          I am SO stealing this quote

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          • LysesKids
            Daycare.com Member
            • May 2014
            • 2836

            #6
            Originally posted by Cat Herder
            "Can't send him home because that would be giving him what he wants." - That is what I'd do. Send him home. Vomiting = Go home.

            It would be up to the parents to make it NOT what he wants.

            Parent: It's a verb.
            Yep... I send home for symptoms & vomiting, regardless of cause, is one of them

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            • Unregistered

              #7
              How do you address it with the pissed parent who has to pick up a kid who isn't sick?

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              • Ariana
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 8969

                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered
                How do you address it with the pissed parent who has to pick up a kid who isn't sick?
                Ignore their tantrum. If they signed a contract that states that sick kids go home then they are responsible. I would treat this as if the kid is sick. Vomitting must mean they are sick.

                Another option is to completely ignore this kids vomitting. I had a kid who would vomit to get attention from tantrumming and ignoring it made it stop.

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                • Blackcat31
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 36124

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered
                  Need advice how do you handle a three yearold who pukes on purpose? Last week it was at snack and now at lunch. Need to nip this pronto! How to address this with the parent? Only have a few weeks left as this kid is headed to preschool Thank God! Can't send him home because that would be giving him what he wants. Advice please!!!
                  Why does that matter to you as the provider?

                  I'm not being rude or snarky.....I genuinely want to know why a provider's feels this way. I know we don't like to "give in" to a child any more than a child likes to not have control but if the reason for not sending home is simply due to not giving the child what he/she needs then I think it's a silly reason.

                  Why can't he have what he wants (home)?
                  He's clearly figured out a way to get what he wants (you didn't teach him or support his methods) so if it works with his parents, why not remove yourself from the whole situation since you played no part in it and let the parents figure it out.... I mean, I certainly wouldn't want to clean up puke.

                  Regardless of whether it is illness puke or intentional puke.

                  Puke = call for pick up.

                  If parents protest, tell them you played no role in teaching him (or using consequences) that it works so why would they expect you to deal with it?

                  I send home due to symptoms NOT diagnosis and if a child pukes, I am not a doctor so I can't say whether it was due to illness or intent.

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                  • Blackcat31
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 36124

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered
                    How do you address it with the pissed parent who has to pick up a kid who isn't sick?
                    When they tell you or express they are upset for having to come pick up a child that isn't sick say "Yeah, imagine how I feel having puke on my carpet from a child that isn't mine and don't know for certain isn't sick."

                    They should be embarrassed and feel bad for you.

                    Not the other way around.

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                    • Ariana
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 8969

                      #11
                      I had a mom who tried to convince me that her crying kid should not be sent home because she is getting what she wants. I termed her two weeks later A mom who does not want to deal with their kids behavioral issues is not someone I want in my daycare.

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                      • Blackcat31
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 36124

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Ariana
                        I had a mom who tried to convince me that her crying kid should not be sent home because she is getting what she wants. I termed her two weeks later A mom who does not want to deal with their kids behavioral issues is not someone I want in my daycare.
                        This is really no different than any other behavioral issue (other than the ick factor).

                        Provider's shouldn't be the ones that have to deal with a LEARNED behavior. Especially one that is clearly reinforced (intentionally or unintentionally) by the parent.

                        Intentionally puking IS a learned behavior.

                        If this were any other learned behavior such as spitting, hitting, swearing etc.....the child would be terminated if it happened on a regular basis. Some would be immediate termination.

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                        • Cat Herder
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 13744

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered
                          How do you address it with the pissed parent who has to pick up a kid who isn't sick?
                          I tell them I understand parenting is hard, I've raised 3 myself. That, hopefully, they can get it under control quickly since it is a pretty common behavioral issue in preschool and younger elementary aged kids. I tell them they have it better than those parents whose kids figure out that if they mess their pants, become violent with friends or destroy property, they get to go home, too.

                          They generally crack a smile, here, and relay a story of themselves or their sibling faking sick to get out of doing something they did not want to do.

                          None of the discussion would ever be done in front of the child. It would be on the porch, before entering the playroom. THAT is very important.

                          It is about the kids needs for parenting. Not the parents want for convenience. It is one of the very first hurdles to public school attendance. Behavioral expectations. Parenting.
                          - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                          • Cat Herder
                            Advanced Daycare.com Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 13744

                            #14
                            Originally posted by storybookending
                            I am SO stealing this quote
                            Steal away. It is not mine. It is Gerry Brook's. He wants everyone to steal it. https://www.facebook.com/gerrybrooks...7834137426182/

                            I bought the T-Shirt. With sparkle letters. lovethis::
                            - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                            • amberrose3dg
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Feb 2017
                              • 1343

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Cat Herder
                              I tell them I understand parenting is hard, I've raised 3 myself. That, hopefully, they can get it under control quickly since it is a pretty common behavioral issue in preschool and younger elementary aged kids. I tell them they have it better than those parents whose kids figure out that if they mess their pants, become violent with friends or destroy property, they get to go home, too.

                              They generally crack a smile, here, and relay a story of themselves or their sibling faking sick to get out of doing something they did not want to do.

                              None of the discussion would ever be done in front of the child. It would be on the porch, before entering the playroom. THAT is very important.

                              It is about the kids needs for parenting. Not the parents want for convenience. It is one of the very first hurdles to public school attendance. Behavioral expectations. Parenting.
                              Excuse my language but why the hell should you be cleaning up puke? I wish a parent would get mad about coming to get their child that just puked all over my house.
                              That is their issue to sort out, not yours. It continued. I'd terminate.

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