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    Illegally Unlicensed...

    I tried to get in contact with the state, but my call kept dropping. I know of someone who is operating illegally unlicensed and had previously been shut down by the state. I'm wondering if there are any criminal (i.e. jail time) that can occur if reported? What repercussions? I live on the east side of Michigan.
  • Cat Herder
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 13744

    #2
    There is an online form. https://www.michigan.gov/lara/0,4601...3044--,00.html

    Penalties depend on the political climate, as in anything else.
    - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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    • Unregistered

      #3
      There is federal privacy law that says you can not give out any information to ANYONE under the age of 18 without parental consent...without a warrant. Under the 4 amendment you do not have to allow ANYONE on you property without a warrant..not the police ..the state.or anyone under contract with the state. That said...unless someone has a warrant...you do not have to talk to them..AT ALL. If they ask you if you are operating a daycare...just say no. If they ask who the children are there...you cannot cannot violate federal privacy law to give the info. Knowledge is power!!!

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      • Unregistered

        #4
        "Political climate"??...

        Originally posted by Cat Herder
        There is an online form. https://www.michigan.gov/lara/0,4601...3044--,00.html

        Penalties depend on the political climate, as in anything else.
        I just don't want to put someone in jail.

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        • Unregistered

          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered
          There is federal privacy law that says you can not give out any information to ANYONE under the age of 18 without parental consent...without a warrant. Under the 4 amendment you do not have to allow ANYONE on you property without a warrant..not the police ..the state.or anyone under contract with the state. That said...unless someone has a warrant...you do not have to talk to them..AT ALL. If they ask you if you are operating a daycare...just say no. If they ask who the children are there...you cannot cannot violate federal privacy law to give the info. Knowledge is power!!!
          Hmmm....thanks for the tips but I think it's the desire of all on this forum to operate legally.

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          • Cat Herder
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 13744

            #6
            In my state, it takes two denials of entry before a warrant is issued.

            In some states, warrants are easier to obtain. In others, it is harder.

            In some states, this is a misdemeanor. In others, it is a felony.
            - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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            • Pestle
              Daycare.com Member
              • May 2016
              • 1729

              #7
              First priority? Keep children safe. I'm glad you're working to report the situation. It's good that you're concerned for this illegal provider, but the provider is an adult who is choosing actions that the state believes could endanger children. It's hard to make a living, yes, but some things are sacred and shouldn't be compromised, and children rank #1 on that list.

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              • Cat Herder
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 13744

                #8
                Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
                - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                • Alwaysgreener
                  Home Child Care Provider
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 2518

                  #9
                  Yes the law says a fine and or jail time but so does the shoplifting law. Most get off with a warning unless this is not their first offense. (Like they have been caught and warned before)

                  Go here and to report the daycare.

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                  • Leigh
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 3814

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered
                    There is federal privacy law that says you can not give out any information to ANYONE under the age of 18 without parental consent...without a warrant. Under the 4 amendment you do not have to allow ANYONE on you property without a warrant..not the police ..the state.or anyone under contract with the state. That said...unless someone has a warrant...you do not have to talk to them..AT ALL. If they ask you if you are operating a daycare...just say no. If they ask who the children are there...you cannot cannot violate federal privacy law to give the info. Knowledge is power!!!
                    Which law is this, specifically? I can't find it when googling.

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