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  • MomBoss
    Daycare.com Member
    • Sep 2017
    • 788

    Cut-off Time?

    Does anybody have a cutoff time for dropping kids off? Where if they are not here by a certain time they forfeit their day? I didnt think I would need one, but when dcb didnt show up at regular time, i texted dad and he said mom was going to drop him off around 2:30.....2:30?!
    I didnt have it in my contract that there cant be any drop offs or pick ups during nap time, but now I feel I need to write it!
    I keep my doors locked after all kids have been dropped off, now with him saying "around" I have no idea when they are really coming.
  • amberrose3dg
    Daycare.com Member
    • Feb 2017
    • 1343

    #2
    I do not allow for that late of drop offs. First off it is in the middle of nap time. That is extremely disruptive. The other thing is most likely are not planning for that. I would simply tell them if they are not dropping off at their scheduled time they need to ask for permission before doing so.
    I have termed over this.

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    • Blackcat31
      • Oct 2010
      • 36124

      #3
      Originally posted by MomBoss
      Does anybody have a cutoff time for dropping kids off? Where if they are not here by a certain time they forfeit their day? I didnt think I would need one, but when dcb didnt show up at regular time, i texted dad and he said mom was going to drop him off around 2:30.....2:30?!
      I didnt have it in my contract that there cant be any drop offs or pick ups during nap time, but now I feel I need to write it!
      I keep my doors locked after all kids have been dropped off, now with him saying "around" I have no idea when they are really coming.
      I don't have a drop off time, but I do expect parents to communicate with me so I can plan. If it's a one time thing, I don't think it's a big deal but if the parent is consistently outside their normal schedule, I might have a discussion with them in regards to how that type of thing is disruptive to our day.

      As for drop offs, during nap time, now that the state has said we can't include that wording in our policies , I found a way around it by saying "Drop off/pick up times must not take place during a time in which it is disruptive to others in attendance."

      That way I am not specifically saying "No drop offs during nap time" I think the parent "gets it".
      If not, I'd probably think about letting them go. Its hard to work within a GROUP of others when one family/parent simply disregards the needs of others. That type of family needs a nanny.

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      • Cat Herder
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 13744

        #4
        I have an arrival cut off time. I work alone. My drop off time ends with the beginning of the groups circle time. We have a full schedule each day, I am busy. Interruptions are not fair to the rest of the group

        The only exception is a well-care doctors appointment, scheduled in advance, so I can plan for it. I would probably work with an emergency situation, but as history would have it, those seem to only happen with departure times.
        - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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        • storybookending
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jan 2017
          • 1484

          #5
          I think I’m the only one here that just doesn’t see this as an issue. I’m not gonna complain about an quieter morning ever. I have no drop off cut off time, I do however expect communication if you are going to be late as after a certain amount of time has passed with no call/text due to licensing I am supposed to call them and if I can’t get ahold of them report a missing child.. none of my parents linger at drop off so it’s not much of a distraction for them to drop the child off, wave from the living room/playroom and have the child come and join whatever activity we are doing at the time.

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          • Blackcat31
            • Oct 2010
            • 36124

            #6
            Originally posted by storybookending
            I think I’m the only one here that just doesn’t see this as an issue. I’m not gonna complain about an quieter morning ever. I have no drop off cut off time, I do however expect communication if you are going to be late as after a certain amount of time has passed with no call/text due to licensing I am supposed to call them and if I can’t get ahold of them report a missing child.. none of my parents linger at drop off so it’s not much of a distraction for them to drop the child off, wave from the living room/playroom and have the child come and join whatever activity we are doing at the time.
            It doesn't bother me either (unless it's disruptive to everyone) but usually it's really no biggie.

            As for calling when they don't show up; I would NEVER agree to do that. If I did, that would mean I am assuming responsibility for them and I refuse to do that. If licensing ever required that of us here, I'd quit that same day.

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            • DaveA
              Daycare.com Member and Bladesmith
              • Jul 2014
              • 4245

              #7
              I don't have an official cut off time. I'm also very specific with DCPs that if they show up after 9 and we're already on an offsite activity they can either come back once we return or meet us where we're at. As for after lunch I encourage them to drop off before naptime but don't say no to it.

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              • mommyneedsadayoff
                Daycare.com Member
                • Jan 2015
                • 1754

                #8
                Originally posted by MomBoss
                Does anybody have a cutoff time for dropping kids off? Where if they are not here by a certain time they forfeit their day? I didnt think I would need one, but when dcb didnt show up at regular time, i texted dad and he said mom was going to drop him off around 2:30.....2:30?!
                I didnt have it in my contract that there cant be any drop offs or pick ups during nap time, but now I feel I need to write it!
                I keep my doors locked after all kids have been dropped off, now with him saying "around" I have no idea when they are really coming.
                I would text mom and ask when he is coming. "Dcm, unfortunately, a 2:30 drop off will not work for me as it will disrupt the group during nap time. Please bring him prior to 1:00 (or whenever nap begins) READY for nap as he will also need to lay down, or after nap ends at 3:00. Thank you for understanding!"

                I have a cut off time for two reasons. First, when kids come at odd hours, I find they have not eaten, napped, ect, so our day is off from the get go. Second, I really prefer consistency for myself and for the child. I don't care if they are gonna be late and give me a heads up, but if it is an everyday thing with no notice, I would tire of it very quickly and find a better fit.

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                • MomBoss
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Sep 2017
                  • 788

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Blackcat31
                  I don't have a drop off time, but I do expect parents to communicate with me so I can plan. If it's a one time thing, I don't think it's a big deal but if the parent is consistently outside their normal schedule, I might have a discussion with them in regards to how that type of thing is disruptive to our day.

                  As for drop offs, during nap time, now that the state has said we can't include that wording in our policies , I found a way around it by saying "Drop off/pick up times must not take place during a time in which it is disruptive to others in attendance."

                  That way I am not specifically saying "No drop offs during nap time" I think the parent "gets it".
                  If not, I'd probably think about letting them go. Its hard to work within a GROUP of others when one family/parent simply disregards the needs of others. That type of family needs a nanny.
                  My state has this policy too. I think I might say, no drop offs after 12 and out of courtesy to the other children please schedule apts early morning or late afternoon that way its not during a disruptive time. That way im not denying them access to their child. This parent also told me once that mom was going to pick up at 2:30 but never showed up and never told me they changed their mind.

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                  • storybookending
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Jan 2017
                    • 1484

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Blackcat31
                    It doesn't bother me either (unless it's disruptive to everyone) but usually it's really no biggie.

                    As for calling when they don't show up; I would NEVER agree to do that. If I did, that would mean I am assuming responsibility for them and I refuse to do that. If licensing ever required that of us here, I'd quit that same day.
                    I never really thought about it that way. I’m not sure the exact wording of the rule. I know when I did after school group care it was something ridiculous like if the child didn’t show up within 10 minutes of the bell the assistant teacher was supposed to preform an “exhaustive search” while the lead called all phone numbers listed on their contact sheet to find them. This was of course when children were getting themselves from their classroom to the gym or cafeteria where after care was held and not parents bringing them in obviously so it’s a little different.

                    If this ever happened we were instructed to call our directior and she was responsible for making the missing child call. She would first try all of the numbers we had just tried again and leave yet another message. In my 4 years as Lead at my one school I only ever had this happen once (where we couldn’t get ahold of anyone). I tracked down child’s teacher and she said she didn’t physically see her leave with grandma but she was saying all day how grandma was picking her up instead of after care. My director took this as enough incentive to assume the child was safe (again not my call) and waited it out until the child’s mom finally called back. My mom gave that mom a talking to and it never happened again.

                    Off to search what the exact wording is for family child care.

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                    • Snowmom
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Jan 2015
                      • 1689

                      #11
                      I do have a cut off time: 8:45am.

                      I have school agers I need to get on the bus and the bus stop is in my driveway, so I don't want people pulling into my driveway, blocking their bus stop and creating a hazard.

                      If parents want to schedule a late drop off, I will with at least a 10 hour notice, but I need to ok it- they don't just get to say they're doing it.

                      My house set up is very open and noise carries immensely in here. So, I am just not open to waking everyone up at nap for a drop off/pick up. If they do it, I'll give them their child and a term notice. I don't fool around with nap time and I expect enrolled families to be courteous to not only me and my schedule, but all the families enrolled here, which includes a much needed rest time.

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                      • Blackcat31
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 36124

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MomBoss
                        My state has this policy too. I think I might say, no drop offs after 12 and out of courtesy to the other children please schedule apts early morning or late afternoon that way its not during a disruptive time. That way im not denying them access to their child. This parent also told me once that mom was going to pick up at 2:30 but never showed up and never told me they changed their mind.
                        We are in the same state

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                        • MomBoss
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Sep 2017
                          • 788

                          #13
                          Another parent was late dropping off today by an hour. We were in the middle of a book and this kid has a hard time with drop offs. Had to stop reading to get this child, now the rest of the kids started wandering away. Lost the focus. Then mom says she didnt eat breakfast. I basically said oh well, lunch is in 2 hrs. Breakfast was over an hour ago and i cleaned up already and the table now has our art project set up on it.

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                          • hwichlaz
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • May 2013
                            • 2064

                            #14
                            I don't, but I don't allow drop off during nap.

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                            • Blackcat31
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 36124

                              #15
                              Originally posted by storybookending
                              I never really thought about it that way. I’m not sure the exact wording of the rule. I know when I did after school group care it was something ridiculous like if the child didn’t show up within 10 minutes of the bell the assistant teacher was supposed to preform an “exhaustive search” while the lead called all phone numbers listed on their contact sheet to find them. This was of course when children were getting themselves from their classroom to the gym or cafeteria where after care was held and not parents bringing them in obviously so it’s a little different.

                              If this ever happened we were instructed to call our directior and she was responsible for making the missing child call. She would first try all of the numbers we had just tried again and leave yet another message. In my 4 years as Lead at my one school I only ever had this happen once (where we couldn’t get ahold of anyone). I tracked down child’s teacher and she said she didn’t physically see her leave with grandma but she was saying all day how grandma was picking her up instead of after care. My director took this as enough incentive to assume the child was safe (again not my call) and waited it out until the child’s mom finally called back. My mom gave that mom a talking to and it never happened again.

                              Off to search what the exact wording is for family child care.
                              Luckily you work in a center so YOU wouldnt be assuming liability on your own like an in home provider would be.

                              If you want to read a bit about the thought process behind why providers dont want to be responsible for calling when parents dont show up, here is a good thread

                              Daycare Center and Family Home owners, Directors, Operators and Assistants should post and ask questions here.


                              @MomBoss.... Sorry for the thread hi-jack.

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